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...why no one has said let's fire the DC Knorr? I've had issues with him since day one. Don't like his history or the results of his work. Still, he's not had his 4 yrs yet, but a change here doesn't lose momentum for the program. The Offense is going to be great, Wilson's forte. Getting the right defensive guru is another matter. I was wondering why those with axes to grind don't sharpen them where defensive blame really lies? Could it just be personal problems with Wilson? He hired the guy, but good DCs are hard to find. I suggest he needs to keep looking.
 
Because Wilson is the common denominator in our continued problems. Dumb calls on offense. Poor special teams. Bad defense. Not enough sense to take some time off clock when at the 1 yard line blah blah blah blah. Same stuff we have been watching since Wilson showed up. Many of his staff has changed but we make the same mistakes over and over and over. It all falls on Wilson head. The guy has proven to be a marginal leader at best. No sense in deflecting the blame around when when we just keep making the same mistakes no matter who the assistant coaches are.
 
These dumb offensive calls seem more a matter of opinion. The Offense looks like its going to be great. So....what is your problem with Wilson really? Was that a grinder I just heard shooting steel sparks? Lol No offense intended here but emotional reactions in analysis cloud where the real problems lie. By your logic you only need to cut off half his head...since he's been here IU has mostly been in the top 25% of B10 elite offenses. So....you don't have a problem with that? Do you?
 
Yes but not after that. He was fired from Arizona State...not sure school. He was available because he was out of a job.
 
Wait a sec...Wilson was OC at Oklahoma, won a NC. We defend Knorr and blame Wilson. Who has the more credible resume? Knorr was not a good hire imo, just the best available...to IU.
 
Yes..our talent level was as low as you could go and still call yourself D1. Knorr has mixed reviews depending on who you talk to. Wake Forest aint the B10 and he was fired from his last job. And as I'm sure you know its what have you done lately, not what you did once. There was a lot of critisism at time of his hire, but he was best IU could get...or so it seemed. The point of this thread is that Knorr bears the responsibility for the Defense, not Wilson. He is responsible for hiring him, not doing his job for him. If critism falls anywhere first, it should be on him.
 
Our offense is designed to move the ball quickly. That puts the defense on the field for extended periods of time. Reminds me of the Dolphins during Marino's early years. Defense was on the field way too long. IU has the same problem.
 
Yes..our talent level was as low as you could go and still call yourself D1. Knorr has mixed reviews depending on who you talk to. Wake Forest aint the B10 and he was fired from his last job. And as I'm sure you know its what have you done lately, not what you did once. There was a lot of critisism at time of his hire, but he was best IU could get...or so it seemed. The point of this thread is that Knorr bears the responsibility for the Defense, not Wilson. He is responsible for hiring him, not doing his job for him. If critism falls anywhere first, it should be on him.

The ACC is just as good as the Big Ten in terms of the level of competition and it's every bit of "Big Boy" football as the B1G.

So, this comment that the guy was "only the DC at Wake in the ACC" seems far out in left field.
Many longtime posters will tell you they were big supporters of Mike Leach coming here.
Not sure if they are showing their face here much anymore in light of the failed experiment that has transpired and the recent loss at home to Portland State.
About the only guy I'd take in a heartbeat is Bud Foster at Va. Tech and we all know that won't ever happen.
 
Until he came to IU, I had no idea who Brian Knorr was. From the reports coming in at the time, he had some decent success with Jim Grobe at Wake Forest (not exactly an ACC powerhouse talent-wise).

I have to believe if Wilson, from his days at Miami, NU and OU could find someone more capable AND WILLING to take the DC gig at IU, he would have. Give this guy a chance. He had 4 starters not available to him.
 
Well we have a new defensive backfield and that is not Knorr's fault. We had 3 starters and 3 backups that did not play, also not Knorr's fault. I thought the defense made big strides in the second half last year so I think it is a wait and see. I really thought they would make a better showing even without the missing players but hopefully with all of them back it will gel.
 
Until he came to IU, I had no idea who Brian Knorr was. From the reports coming in at the time, he had some decent success with Jim Grobe at Wake Forest (not exactly an ACC powerhouse talent-wise).

I have to believe if Wilson, from his days at Miami, NU and OU could find someone more capable AND WILLING to take the DC gig at IU, he would have. Give this guy a chance. He had 4 starters not available to him.

95% of college football fans could not name the top-5 defensive coordinators if they were stopped on the street.

I would bet if you polled 10 people walking in Memorial Stadium, 8 of them wouldn't know that Howard is a transfer from UAB.

The vast majority of college fans like the gear and the trash talking but know zero about their own personnel or coaching staff, other than the head coach's name.
 
Its just terrible we score so quickly. Lol You really want them to slow down or the Defense to adapt?
We don't have the OK defense that Wilson had so probably a little bit of both. We obviously left too much time on the clock after our last score. What do you suggest we do?
 
Yes but not after that. He was fired from Arizona State...not sure school. He was available because he was out of a job.
Are you just making things up? Knorr never coached at ASU. He had a Top 30 defense at Wake Forest in 2013, then came to IU. He was available because their HC got fired. I honestly have no clue what you are talking about.
 
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Yes..our talent level was as low as you could go and still call yourself D1. Knorr has mixed reviews depending on who you talk to. Wake Forest aint the B10 and he was fired from his last job. And as I'm sure you know its what have you done lately, not what you did once. There was a lot of critisism at time of his hire, but he was best IU could get...or so it seemed. The point of this thread is that Knorr bears the responsibility for the Defense, not Wilson. He is responsible for hiring him, not doing his job for him. If critism falls anywhere first, it should be on him.
If there was a lot of criticism of hiring a guy who built a very successful D at a Power 5 school with similar talent, then IU fans are morons.
 
Dude it wasn't that long ago. Fish oil?
If you are going to speak directly to Somone you need to quote them so we know who you're talking too

You've been a member for 3 days how do you know what was being said a year and a half ago?
 
Knorr had a very good D at WF, he has had one season to correct a decade of piss-poor defense. We are 1-0, leave it at that. Let's leave the bitching until we lose.
 
...why no one has said let's fire the DC Knorr? I've had issues with him since day one. Don't like his history or the results of his work. Still, he's not had his 4 yrs yet, but a change here doesn't lose momentum for the program. The Offense is going to be great, Wilson's forte. Getting the right defensive guru is another matter. I was wondering why those with axes to grind don't sharpen them where defensive blame really lies? Could it just be personal problems with Wilson? He hired the guy, but good DCs are hard to find. I suggest he needs to keep looking.

JFC, the guy has had 13 games as our DC and you want to can him already? Can we at least get some upperclassmen in his system before we stick a knife in his back? I realize this is frustrating, but you're off your f'n rocker.
 
Are you just making things up? Knorr never coached at ASU. He had a Top 30 defense at Wake Forest in 2013, then came to IU. He was available because their HC got fired. I honestly have no clue what you are talking about.

Dude has been flaming this board since he joined on Saturday.
 
Knorr had a very good D at WF, he has had one season to correct a decade of piss-poor defense. We are 1-0, leave it at that. Let's leave the bitching until we lose.
So you aren't concerned with the defensive performance from Saturday (and people should be disallowed from voicing any concerns whatsoever) solely because he SIU player dropped the game winning conversion pass? Gotcha.
 
So you aren't concerned with the defensive performance from Saturday (and people should be disallowed from voicing any concerns whatsoever) solely because he SIU player dropped the game winning conversion pass? Gotcha.
I think you both have a point. My issue is that the OP has no idea what he's talking about and Knorr has proven he knows what he's doing. The D on Saturday was terrible though, yes.
 
Given the IU President's dressing down about these types of issues, I imagine Glass has a heavy interest in this and is in on the decision process (maybe even McRobbie is being consulted) and a decision hasn't been made yet. Loss of these guys for very long will be devastating.

Biggest mistakes letting tight end run free down the middle not once but

You've been a member for 3 days how do you know what was being said a year and a half ago?

Lol son I've been here for 25 yrs. Where have you been?? Lol
 
Knorr wasn't fired from Wake. Jim Grobe resigned and Wake went a different direction.

He was going to Air Force when IU hired him.
 
Because Wilson is the common denominator in our continued problems. Dumb calls on offense. Poor special teams. Bad defense. Not enough sense to take some time off clock when at the 1 yard line blah blah blah blah. Same stuff we have been watching since Wilson showed up. Many of his staff has changed but we make the same mistakes over and over and over. It all falls on Wilson head. The guy has proven to be a marginal leader at best. No sense in deflecting the blame around when when we just keep making the same mistakes no matter who the assistant coaches are.
I am no football expert but taking time off the clock in the last possession could have turned out to be very risky. What if we run the clock down and fail to get the ball into the end zone or miss the FG. I would think most coaches would score as quickly as possible, to rule out those issues, and trust the defense to finish the game. If you work the clock down and score it would be pretty obvious to your defense you do not trust them to get a stop. What does that do to the confidence of the defense? Maybe Wilson was sending a message to the defense that he trusted them to finish the game?
 
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The ACC is just as good as the Big Ten in terms of the level of competition and it's every bit of "Big Boy" football as the B1G.

So, this comment that the guy was "only the DC at Wake in the ACC" seems far out in left field.
Many longtime posters will tell you they were big supporters of Mike Leach coming here.
Not sure if they are showing their face here much anymore in light of the failed experiment that has transpired and the recent loss at home to Portland State.
About the only guy I'd take in a heartbeat is Bud Foster at Va. Tech and we all know that won't ever happen.
Mickey Anders if he can still walk. :)
 
This site existed in 1990? That's pretty impressive. Were you coaching with Knorr at ASU before that?

IU FB has had an internet following since the internet arrived. Mike Pergrams came along and his became most popular. Ive known Mike since 1992, when we used to meet as a forum group at Mallory's practices. I served as one of the Mods for a couple of years but infighting just got too ugly. Kinda like what you bring here. Lol You were still a kid when fans started posting. You know nuts.
 
IU FB has had an internet following since the internet arrived. Mike Pergrams came along and his became most popular. Ive known Mike since 1992, when we used to meet as a forum group at Mallory's practices. I served as one of the Mods for a couple of years but infighting just got too ugly. Kinda like what you bring here. Lol You were still a kid when fans started posting. You know nuts.

You remind me of Jimtelevision. He used to make similar claims
 
Claims? Lol lol you're just not worth my time child.
Calling everyone "child" and "son" certainly isn't a sign of someone out of touch and who has nothing intelligent to say. Definitely not.

I'd still like you to address whether you understand that your idea of Knorr's history is completely inaccurate.
 
IU FB has had an internet following since the internet arrived. Mike Pergrams came along and his became most popular. Ive known Mike since 1992, when we used to meet as a forum group at Mallory's practices. I served as one of the Mods for a couple of years but infighting just got too ugly. Kinda like what you bring here. Lol You were still a kid when fans started posting. You know nuts.
Your OP was wildly inaccurate. What are you bringing?
 
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