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And while that's better than what we've been for a good while, any of dozens of good college coaches should be able to achieve that at a place like IU. I don't think it's what many of the people who remember regular conference championships and banners every 5 years or so were hoping that Dolson was aiming for.
At the moment…..we just need to get out of what seems like an annual 9th place finish in our own conference.

Banners are great but we are never a threat in this conference to do anything. Crawl first before we walk.
 
At the moment…..we just need to get out of what seems like an annual 9th place finish in our own conference.

Banners are great but we are never a threat in this conference to do anything. Crawl first before we walk.
When you have the highest NIL in the conference 9th place finishes should never ever happen. You should at least be top five almost every year. A good coach can do that. Nobody is expecting banners right away but just compete and make the tourney every years.
 
I'm looking at it a little differently now. The trio of Moren Cignetti DeVries along with our other programs, is prerty respectable now and we can get back to not second guessing our men's teams coaching the second the line-ups are announced. I don't see a sub 20 win season in our future or a January nose dive every year. When I soaked in the reality that our banners were in the first 48 years of the tournament and we're on a 37 year drought, with the wide open possibilities the portal era provides every team in the country, its ok being like everyone else. 8 months from now I'll be excited again, I think.
 
1. Woodson was never the answer.
2. IU isn't the dream job like Hoosiers think it is. If you assumed that Beard, Drew, Stevens, May, et al, wanted this job are fooling yourself.
3. DD will do a better job than Woodson.
4. IU missed by not hiring McCollum.
 
1. Woodson was never the answer.
2. IU isn't the dream job like Hoosiers think it is. If you assumed that Beard, Drew, Stevens, May, et al, wanted this job are fooling yourself.
3. DD will do a better job than Woodson.
4. IU missed by not hiring McCollum.
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Is any job "the dream job" anymore? Maybe if it has a personal connection. And even then it might not prompt someone to leave their current situation for a variety of reasons

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Nobody knows that. Even if he has success somewhere else, doesn't mean he would succeed the same way with the spotlight shine of IU basketball
 
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1. Woodson was never the answer.
2. IU isn't the dream job like Hoosiers think it is. If you assumed that Beard, Drew, Stevens, May, et al, wanted this job are fooling yourself.
3. DD will do a better job than Woodson.
4. IU missed by not hiring McCollum.


Two things.

1. Beard wanted the job. IU would not touch him.
2. I have never seen more IU fans in my life convinced a guy with one year of D1 experience is the next sure thing. If he really was a sure thing I am still trying to figure out why Dolson did not hire him.
 
Of course, and it also makes Indiana one coaching hire away from going back to the blue blood status that they have/had/expect/whatever. That's why I never buy into the narrative of "we have to get this one right or the program is dead". Is it a bit harder to attract talent versus when you have recent success, sure. But it's done all of the time. Kids are fickle. And they come and go often. What matters is the coach.

There are a lot of schools with excellent resources, but not all put it into basketball and with the passion of Indiana. That is still there, even if dormant.

I just don't buy the whoa is me no "sexy" coach wants to come to Indiana anymore. Again, I think there was but one, maybe "sexy" that was willing to be open to leave what they have built. That was Beard. And by all accounts he WANTED the Indiana job. Stevens has no interesting in going back to college coaching. And honestly, I'm not sure he would be as good after being out of it for over 10 years. Jay Wright? Please, there was a reason he wanted out several years ago. A lot has changed, that's not a ding on Indiana. Pitino is 70 years old and an East Coast guy who is in his element in NYC. He's not leaving to go anywhere. Likewise, Pearl I believe is at a place where he is wrapping up and looking for transition to his son taking over. That's not Indiana. Drew? He didn't leave for Kentucky either? Oats? What motivation does he have to leave for anywhere right now? I could have seen Otz, but the narrative is true that he and his wife love Iowa State. Add on he got a healthy extension. May? I'm sure he would have been all over Indiana last year. And in the long run, do we know he will be better than DD? McCasland? Sounds like he is a Texas guy who wants to stay in Texas. So what are we talking about?
"Whoa is me," you wrote. Seriously? "Whoa is me"?

Don't write a book in English, if you don't understand it.
 
I'm looking at it a little differently now. The trio of Moren Cignetti DeVries along with our other programs, is prerty respectable now and we can get back to not second guessing our men's teams coaching the second the line-ups are announced. I don't see a sub 20 win season in our future or a January nose dive every year. When I soaked in the reality that our banners were in the first 48 years of the tournament and we're on a 37 year drought, with the wide open possibilities the portal era provides every team in the country, its ok being like everyone else. 8 months from now I'll be excited again, I think.
It's worse than that. They are still championships but (from memory), McCracken won two from fields of 16 and Knight won two from fields of 28 and his third from a field of 32.

And (again from memory) the only championship game that IU flatout dominated was the one with Isiah.
 
Maybe he was trying to slow down the raging torrent of his mind, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives...
I thought maybe he had just watched Yellowstone and couldn't get the opening scene out of bis mind (where the horse gets shot). So he just assumed the word was "whoa."

More likely though, he dictated that way-too-long post while he was driving his delivery truck and just clicked it without proofreading.
 
I thought maybe he had just watched Yellowstone and couldn't get the opening scene out of bis mind (where the horse gets shot). So he just assumed the word was "whoa."

More likely though, he dictated that way-too-long post while he was driving his delivery truck and just clicked it without proofreading.

More beautiful insight... what the f is "bis"??? See how that works? How is your proofreading going on the back of your garbage truck?
 
Thanks for your profound insight Professor Stuffshot. Does my typo correction make you feel better?
If you don't see the advantages of using good English/spelling there really isn't anything anyone can do for you.

Edit to add: You said, "Professor." Your error was a 5th-7th grade error, maybe even 4th grade, not a college level spelling error.

Don't try to suggest that it was a highly sophisticated error -- it wasn't. You just posted it without even looking, possibly because you dictated it. That's not my fault.
 
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If you don't see the advantages of using good English/spelling there really isn't anything anyone can do for you.

Edit to add: You said, "Professor." Your error was a 5th-7th grade error, maybe even 4th grade, not a college level spelling error.

Don't try to suggest that it was a highly sophisticated error -- it wasn't. You just posted it without even looking, possibly because you dictated it. That's not my fault
So I don't take it you feel happier that I edited it... cool, keep your superiority complex going. I suppose you don't see the irony in your own error in your post just after.

Yes, it was an error that I did not proof. And sure, it was a grade school error made while using the dictation button on my iPhone. Fair enough to have fun with that. Then you inferred that I'm an uneducated truck driver, note that all truck drivers are not uneducated. That was possibly your own self projection.

I used the word, "Professor," because you told me to never write a book. I won't. I'm a visual professional who is used to having copy editors write from my creative direction. But, I will try to be better for you. Or... would you prefer I don't, therefore you can continue having something to do as the grammar police captain of the thread?
 
1. Woodson was never the answer.
2. IU isn't the dream job like Hoosiers think it is. If you assumed that Beard, Drew, Stevens, May, et al, wanted this job are fooling yourself.
3. DD will do a better job than Woodson.
4. IU missed by not hiring McCollum.
Re #2, IU (and all other college jobs, by the way) aren't as big a draw as they used to be.

But I'm pretty sure Beard did want the job this year, and May would have taken it last year. IU could have hired Stevens, too, if they went after him the year before he took the Celtics job. All a matter of timing.

IU has lots of advantages outside of its "blue blood status" (that I don't think it enjoys anymore). Money for coaches, NIL, proximity to target rich recruiting environments, etc.
 
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