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Jim Coyle

Who is saying that alums of universities can't organize NIL payments? That's not what is being said. What's being said is that Indiana University, or any other university for that matter, can't directly facilitate the payments. There's a massive difference. It's clearly covered under NIL guidelines.
Good Lord.
 
Just ignorance. You have to remember, IU fans, think they are the cleanest of clean programs. More than 1/2 of IU fans hate NIL and are pissed the players are getting money. Lot of shut up and dribble mentality from IU fans... Actually what I hate about the program the most. If you haven't noticed, I do everything in my power to be the opposite of that mentality. I paid 80% of our players this year.
This would seem to be the blueprint, no? Wealthy booster, former player, and former coach on the board! ...and it's all in the name of charity work. How quaint!

 
Are they even a top 25? I think they can be with TJD, but Coyle pointed out how crazy the tourney has been when you have a 3 seed playing a 14 seed and is only favored by 2 points. Thirty years ago a 3 would be favored over 14 by 15 or more. There is so many teams that are good and many of them are well under the radar playing at smaller schools.
the funny thing is, everyone complains about the shooting on this year's roster and then wants everyone back: TJD, XJ, RT, RP plus Galloway, Geronimo, etc.... so where will the shooters come from? None of next year's recruits are knock down shooters, so everyone has to improve their shooting in the off-season. ...same as it's been for the last 6 years! There's no way you don't take TJD and XJ if they will come back, but then we need at least 3 to move on, just to get next year's class on campus, right? Before you hope we get everyone back, you better work the #s and if we aren't bringing in anyone else beyond the current recruits, accept that we're going to be a bad shooting team next year again, who probably isn't going to be the smartest and best executing team either.
 
the funny thing is, everyone complains about the shooting on this year's roster and then wants everyone back: TJD, XJ, RT, RP plus Galloway, Geronimo, etc.... so where will the shooters come from? None of next year's recruits are knock down shooters, so everyone has to improve their shooting in the off-season. ...same as it's been for the last 6 years! There's no way you don't take TJD and XJ if they will come back, but then we need at least 3 to move on, just to get next year's class on campus, right? Before you hope we get everyone back, you better work the #s and if we aren't bringing in anyone else beyond the current recruits, accept that we're going to be a bad shooting team next year again, who probably isn't going to be the smartest and best executing team either.
Gallaway will be a better shooter next year.
I would expect (we shall see) that Gunn will be a 40+% shooter.
But I get your point. We need to add much better shooting to be competitive on a national basis.
 
And that's awesome.

But you and I both know that Indiana University isn't coming to you and telling you how and where to allocate the money. Am I wrong in saying that?
Of course not. IU has no organization for NIL tho. The closest we have are 2 idiots that dress up as clowns and record their lisps with litteral spit flying in recruits faces. It is beyond embarrassing.

Unfortunately, those 2 talk to all of the staff and admin at IU.
 
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Of course not. IU has no organization for NIL tho. The closest we have are 2 idiots that dress up at clowns and record their lisps with litteral spit flying in recruits faces. It is beyond embarrassing.

Unfortunately, those 2 talk to all of the staff and admin at IU.
Are those the Hoosier Hysteria or whatever guys?

If so, they're an embarrassment.
 
This would seem to be the blueprint, no? Wealthy booster, former player, and former coach on the board! ...and it's all in the name of charity work. How quaint!


All the schools that pushed the envelope and cheated before are going to greatly benifit. This is all legal now, and IU fans see this is slimy and cheating. In reality, like you said, this is the blueprint for success.

This is a business. Once The IU fanbase can understand that, we will be much better off.
 
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Are those the Hoosier Hysteria or whatever guys?

If so, they're an embarrassment.
Yes. They have a NIL fund that has raised over 100k where they choose how to allocate the funds without telling any of their contributors.

I am thinking about doing something transparent where if you want to donate to NIL I will pay the player you want 100% of your donation, and funnel it through cavanaghs corner. All legal, all legit.

So if you wanted $500 to go to JG, 100% of it would.
 
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the funny thing is, everyone complains about the shooting on this year's roster and then wants everyone back: TJD, XJ, RT, RP plus Galloway, Geronimo, etc.... so where will the shooters come from? None of next year's recruits are knock down shooters, so everyone has to improve their shooting in the off-season. ...same as it's been for the last 6 years! There's no way you don't take TJD and XJ if they will come back, but then we need at least 3 to move on, just to get next year's class on campus, right? Before you hope we get everyone back, you better work the #s and if we aren't bringing in anyone else beyond the current recruits, accept that we're going to be a bad shooting team next year again, who probably isn't going to be the smartest and best executing team either.
That is a great point. It is not like they guys will suddenly become lights out shooters we need guys like Luke Goode on Illinois or Bohannon.
 
Gallaway will be a better shooter next year.
I would expect (we shall see) that Gunn will be a 40+% shooter.
But I get your point. We need to add much better shooting to be competitive on a national basis.
We say this every year Galloway may improve but he is not going to be lights out and you really expect a skinny Gunn to come in as a freshman and shot over 40% from three? Instead of shooting over 5'10 guys he will now have to shoot over 6'4 athletic guys and it is a huge huge transition. I mean it is the same very spring we pump these guys up with expectations that they will likely never live up too in their first season. If Gunn shoots over 40% from three next year I owe you a six pack.
 
Gallaway will be a better shooter next year.
I would expect (we shall see) that Gunn will be a 40+% shooter.
But I get your point. We need to add much better shooting to be competitive on a national basis.
I'd agree Galloway will improve a couple points, as might Geronimo. Won't surprise me a bit if XJ takes a step back though. People didn't guard him this year with the way his shot looked and assuming Stewart and Kopp are gone, XJ would get more attention on 3s. My point is, if all we're counting on is improved shooting from the same group of players, we might be a little better, but we won't become a good shooting team all of a sudden. And, Gunn might be a 40% shooter.... by the time he's a senior. Doubt he plays much next year.
 
That is a great point. It is not like they guys will suddenly become lights out shooters we need guys like Luke Goode on Illinois or Bohannon.
plus, if you look at the list of guys I put up, no Miller Kopp or Parker Stewart. So as much grief as those 2 took, if they're gone, those were our best 3 pt shooters percentage wise I believe. If you want this to be a better shooting team, IMHO you need 2 more spots for the transfer portal than we have now, and you have to find kids that all ready shot 40% or close to it, last year in college somewhere.
 
I'd agree Galloway will improve a couple points, as might Geronimo. Won't surprise me a bit if XJ takes a step back though. People didn't guard him this year with the way his shot looked and assuming Stewart and Kopp are gone, XJ would get more attention on 3s. My point is, if all we're counting on is improved shooting from the same group of players, we might be a little better, but we won't become a good shooting team all of a sudden. And, Gunn might be a 40% shooter.... by the time he's a senior. Doubt he plays much next year.
Trey, JG, X and Phin all have the opportunity to improve their shooting over the summer. Will be interesting to see if one or more can do so.

If one does it will take a bit of the expected pressure off of X which you mentioned.
 
plus, if you look at the list of guys I put up, no Miller Kopp or Parker Stewart. So as much grief as those 2 took, if they're gone, those were our best 3 pt shooters percentage wise I believe. If you want this to be a better shooting team, IMHO you need 2 more spots for the transfer portal than we have now, and you have to find kids that all ready shot 40% or close to it, last year in college somewhere.

Also, we don't need pure shooting percentage. Kopp/Stewart's and even Johnson are all have acceptable shooting percentages, but just aren't taking enough shots. Now, if those guys just shot more, percentages would likely drop. Combine Kopp/Stewart had a better shooting percentage than Stefanovic, but Stefanovic took nearly as many shots as those 2 combined.

Looking at a lot of the top teams this year, and the common denominator isn't teams with 40% shooters, its volume shooters (5+ shots a game) with percentages as low as 32%.
 
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Also, we don't need pure shooting percentage. Kopp/Stewart's and even Johnson are all have acceptable shooting percentages, but just aren't taking enough shots. Now, if those guys just shot more, percentages would likely drop. Combine Kopp/Stewart had a better shooting percentage than Stefanovic, but Stefanovic took nearly as many shots as those 2 combined.

Looking at a lot of the top teams this year, and the common denominator isn't teams with 40% shooters, its volume shooters (5+ shots a game) with percentages as low as 32%.
25 shots or more.
 
Just ignorance. You have to remember, IU fans, think they are the cleanest of clean programs. More than 1/2 of IU fans hate NIL and are pissed the players are getting money. Lot of shut up and dribble mentality from IU fans... Actually what I hate about the program the most. If you haven't noticed, I do everything in my power to be the opposite of that mentality. I paid 80% of our players this year.

And what did these “80% of the players” do to earn this compensation?
 
25 shots or more.

IU was one streaky volume shooter (eg Devonte Green at 35%) away from being a 23 win regular season win team (and maybe a 5/6 seed team). A guy like Green may have costs us a win we did get, but would have reversed 4 or 5 of the losses
 
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The guy that I wonder about in hindsight was Blake Wesley. He's looked very athletic and good to me when watching ND and I thought the story with him was that we watched him but never really offered. I also thought at least early on, there was some interest from him in IU, althought I thought I remember he committed fairly early to ND. Still, frustrating to watch him and his production as we struggled with getting much out of Kopp, Stewart or Bates.
 
The guy that I wonder about in hindsight was Blake Wesley. He's looked very athletic and good to me when watching ND and I thought the story with him was that we watched him but never really offered. I also thought at least early on, there was some interest from him in IU, althought I thought I remember he committed fairly early to ND. Still, frustrating to watch him and his production as we struggled with getting much out of Kopp, Stewart or Bates.
We recruited him as did Purdue but he came with a ton of baggage. Think he always wanted to be closer to home and ND was always going to be tough to beat out. He a lot better year than I would have envisioned and shocked that he's on almost every draft board and some cases even a projected lottery pick and he's most likely a one and done. I still think he's a lot more potential than production at this stage. Averaged 14 ppg this year but did it on 12 shots and barely eclipsed 40% from the field.
 
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The guy that I wonder about in hindsight was Blake Wesley. He's looked very athletic and good to me when watching ND and I thought the story with him was that we watched him but never really offered. I also thought at least early on, there was some interest from him in IU, althought I thought I remember he committed fairly early to ND. Still, frustrating to watch him and his production as we struggled with getting much out of Kopp, Stewart or Bates.

I think this may have explained why IU and Purdue lost interest...

https://www.southbendtribune.com/st...-former-riley-high-basketball-coach/45728373/
 
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We recruited him as did Purdue but he came with a ton of baggage. Think he always wanted to be closer to home and ND was always going to be tough to beat out. He a lot better year than I would have envisioned and shocked that he's on almost every draft board and some cases even a projected lottery pick and he's most likely a one and done. I still think he's a lot more potential than production at this stage. Averaged 14 ppg this year but did it on 12 shots and barely eclipsed 40% from the field.
So a guy with a ton of baggage ends up at a school like Notre Dame. Normally those type of guys end up with guys like Bruch Pearl or Sampson.
 
So a guy with a ton of baggage ends up at a school like Notre Dame. Normally those type of guys end up with guys like Bruch Pearl or Sampson.
Ton of baggage. His parents are lunatics. It's all published. Not doing your research for you.
 
Unless he is going to shoot 1000 mid range shots a day over the summer TJD should leave. Its time for Geronimo, Transfer, Banks ect.
 
I dont listen to his show very often but just heard him say he thinks TJD is coming back. Total guess i am sure but was a little surprised to hear him say. We shall see but probably will not hear for awhile.
I have thought from day one that we had a chance that TJD would be our version of Florida's Joachim Noah.
 
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