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Jim Coyle

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I dont listen to his show very often but just heard him say he thinks TJD is coming back. Total guess i am sure but was a little surprised to hear him say. We shall see but probably will not hear for awhile.
 
Without him, IU isn’t a tournament team next year. With him, they’re top 25 all season.

You are about to learn how much a college player is really worth to a university struggling to regain its prominence.
 
Without him, IU isn’t a tournament team next year. With him, they’re top 25 all season.

You are about to learn how much a college player is really worth to a university struggling to regain its prominence.
Are they even a top 25? I think they can be with TJD, but Coyle pointed out how crazy the tourney has been when you have a 3 seed playing a 14 seed and is only favored by 2 points. Thirty years ago a 3 would be favored over 14 by 15 or more. There is so many teams that are good and many of them are well under the radar playing at smaller schools.
 
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I dont listen to his show very often but just heard him say he thinks TJD is coming back. Total guess i am sure but was a little surprised to hear him say. We shall see but probably will not hear for awhile.
It’s def possible he comes back, could be the light clicked on and him shooting that jumper during tournament has led him to believe with a jump shot he’s unstoppable.
GO IU
 
Without him, IU isn’t a tournament team next year. With him, they’re top 25 all season.

You are about to learn how much a college player is really worth to a university struggling to regain its prominence.
Yeah he says they will NIL him in and that also only three players will leave max. Is there a limit to NIL money?
 
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Yeah he says they will NIL him in and that also only three players will leave max. Is there a limit to NIL money?
If IU paid Archie $10M to leave, how much would they pay to have Davis stay?

I would go so far as to say there has never been a player decision more important to IU.

Pick and roll with Johnson and Davis next season would be deadly. They figured it out at the end of this season.
 
If IU paid Archie $10M to leave, how much would they pay to have Davis stay?

I would go so far as to say there has never been a player decision more important to IU.

Pick and roll with Johnson and Davis next season would be deadly. They figured it out at the end of this season.
Probably alot assuming there is no limit.
 
For those who think IU will automatically have a bad year next season, if TJD leaves, look at what Iowa St. just did. They were 2-22 last season and lost their top 3 scorers by transfer, so they picked up 3 other players from Minnesota, Penn St., and Washington St. and now are in the Sweet 16. The portal is reason why you can never say your team will automatically have a down year. If Woodson lures the right type of players here, even if TJD leaves, they can be as good or better next year. Oh, and ISU did it by playing great defense.

 
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Yeah he says they will NIL him in and that also only three players will leave max. Is there a limit to NIL money?
A college can't use NIL ... an outside company has to. The university can do nothing other than offer resources specific in helping the athlete market himself. IU can't pay him anything nor can they facilitate the transaction in any way.
 
Jim doesn't know shit.
Not saying he does just repeating what he said. He also had some guy on name Jim Reamer who claims the kid from kokomo is one of the top three players in the state.

Flory Bidunga Sophomore Center (Kokomo)- 17 PPG 13 RPG 5 BPG
 
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Are they even a top 25? I think they can be with TJD, but Coyle pointed out how crazy the tourney has been when you have a 3 seed playing a 14 seed and is only favored by 2 points. Thirty years ago a 3 would be favored over 14 by 15 or more. There is so many teams that are good and many of them are well under the radar playing at smaller schools.
I think parity stems from the 24/7 commitment that it takes today. It starts with travel squads at a young age and then becomes AAU ball after the less willing to sacrifice are weeded out. It seems just about all teams have good players now. There is a much finer line between good teams and mediocre ones. That said, with the total commitment to one sport that excellence takes, I don't think athletes today are as well rounded as they used to be in preparation for life after basketball. You need to be a gym rat to excel at a higher level..
 
A college can't use NIL ... an outside company has to. The university can do nothing other than offer resources specific in helping the athlete market himself. IU can't pay him anything nor can they facilitate the transaction in any way.
Can’t tell if serious.
 
Not saying he does just repeating what he said. He also had some guy on name Jim Reamer who claims the kid from kokomo is one of the top three players in the state.

Flory Bidunga Sophomore Center (Kokomo)- 17 PPG 13 RPG 5 BPG
I would agree on Bidunga. I sincerely hope this kid is on IU’s radar. He’s a very impactful player now, and while still raw, has come along way from the fall.
 
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Not saying he does just repeating what he said. He also had some guy on name Jim Reamer who claims the kid from kokomo is one of the top three players in the state.

Flory Bidunga Sophomore Center (Kokomo)- 17 PPG 13 RPG 5 BPG
Reamer is bad news. You want to stay as far away from him as you can.
 
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If you don’t think schools are not prioritizing NIL subjects and opportunities, you’re not very bright. All it takes is a raise of the eyebrows and head nod.
I wrote that schools can't pay a kid under the NIL guidelines. IU isn't giving TJD a dime... they can't arrange for a business to do that either. They can provide guidance and education. They can inform the athlete of opportunities but they can't solicit businesses to provide those opportunities. They sure as hell can't have anything to do with an arrangement that states you get money through NIL but you have to come back and play your senior year. The eyebrow raise and nod is how a school can get nailed to the wall.
 
I wrote that schools can't pay a kid under the NIL guidelines. IU isn't giving TJD a dime... they can't arrange for a business to do that either. They can provide guidance and education. They can inform the athlete of opportunities but they can't solicit businesses to provide those opportunities. They sure as hell can't have anything to do with an arrangement that states you get money through NIL but you have to come back and play your senior year. The eyebrow raise and nod is how a school can get nailed to the wall.
You’re funny.
 
You’re funny.
He may be funny, but he's also right. IU isn't paying TDJ a dime nor are they legally allowed to reach out to one of their wealthy boosters and tell them how to allocate money for an NIL deal to one of their student athletes.

Now I'm not saying this isn't done under the table elsewhere (of course it is) but it's against NCAA rules if caught. NIL deals are supposed to come from a third party, not the university.
 
He may be funny, but he's also right. IU isn't paying TDJ a dime nor are they legally allowed to reach out to one of their wealthy boosters and tell them how to allocate money for an NIL deal to one of their student athletes.

Now I'm not saying this isn't done under the table elsewhere (of course it is) but it's against NCAA rules if caught. NIL deals are supposed to come from a third party, not the university.
Very easy for alums of schools that are not currently on the schools payroll to organize a foundation for NIL. All of those orginzations have very close relationships with current athletics at said school. It is pay for play and all schools will fall in line in the next few years or be left behind. IU is no different.
 
Very easy for alums of schools that are not currently on the schools payroll to organize a foundation for NIL. All of those orginzations have very close relationships with current athletics at said school. It is pay for play and all schools will fall in line in the next few years or be left behind. IU is no different.
Why people convince themselves this isn’t the case is so weird.
 
Why people convince themselves this isn’t the case is so weird.

Just ignorance. You have to remember, IU fans, think they are the cleanest of clean programs. More than 1/2 of IU fans hate NIL and are pissed the players are getting money. Lot of shut up and dribble mentality from IU fans... Actually what I hate about the program the most. If you haven't noticed, I do everything in my power to be the opposite of that mentality. I paid 80% of our players this year.
 
Why people convince themselves this isn’t the case is so weird.
Who is saying that alums of universities can't organize NIL payments? That's not what is being said. What's being said is that Indiana University, or any other university for that matter, can't directly facilitate the payments. There's a massive difference. It's clearly covered under NIL guidelines.
 
Just ignorance. You have to remember, IU fans, think they are the cleanest of clean programs. More than 1/2 of IU fans hate NIL and are pissed the players are getting money. Lot of shut up and dribble mentality from IU fans... Actually what I hate about the program the most. If you haven't noticed, I do everything in my power to be the opposite of that mentality. I paid 80% of our players this year.
And that's awesome.

But you and I both know that Indiana University isn't coming to you and telling you how and where to allocate the money. Am I wrong in saying that?
 
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