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Ivermectin: wonder drug.



I have to laugh. How many patients died at the altar of social media and political bias?

Please don't take Dr. Campbell's word for it. Read the studies. SPOILER: IVERMECTIN provided SEVENTY PERCENT REDUCTION IN MORTALITY VS. REMDESIVIR.

Second study showed using Ivermectin cut infection rates in half.


Anyone who has dismissed Ivermectin as a "horse dewormer" has blood on their hands.

(**Ivermectin is a Nobel-prize winning anti-parasitical drug, required to be given to immigrants coming into the U.S. from many countries. It has also been used to control parastes in livestock.)


Would seem you would have saved yourself a lot of grief in your OP... if you would have just linked the damn study. Since Campbell always puts the links right in the reference notes of his YouTube posts, it's not exactly hard. Same could be said for all those complaining about not having the link, I guess.



 
Especially when the manufacturers of Ivermectin confirm it doesn’t work against COVID.

Why is this nonsense still being discussed?
Because scientists keep doing peer review studies. I guess they make money to do them. Surely a greedy dude like you understands that.

Why do you deny science when you don't like the result?

Better question - why does one science study say ivermectin is effective at something (here, apparently preventing death from Covid) and other science study says something different?

Does the vaccine stop spread this week? Have your propagandists told you what to say yet?
 
Because scientists keep doing peer review studies. I guess they make money to do them. Surely a greedy dude like you understands that.

Why do you deny science when you don't like the result?

Better question - why does one science study say ivermectin is effective at something (here, apparently preventing death from Covid) and other science study says something different?

Does the vaccine stop spread this week? Have your propagandists told you what to say yet?

I doubt there will ever be large scale studies done regarding a generic drug. No cost/benefit to such a thing.
 
Because scientists keep doing peer review studies. I guess they make money to do them. Surely a greedy dude like you understands that.

Why do you deny science when you don't like the result?

Better question - why does one science study say ivermectin is effective at something (here, apparently preventing death from Covid) and other science study says something different?

Does the vaccine stop spread this week? Have your propagandists told you what to say yet?
Link the peer reviewed studies, please.
 
Link the peer reviewed studies, please.
No. Do your own homework. They were provided every time anybody linked this guy. HE links the studies, which you would know if you looked at his videos for even seconds. But you don't. You just criticize what you dont even read or review. You are nothing but a propaganda receptacle. Your uninformed opinions are worthless, except for the comedy of watching a mental jester.

I prefer that you continue to spew uniformed idiocy as always, proven by the fact you didn't look at the videos and see the clearly provided studies. And PS - when he reviews non-peer reviewed studies, he says so, and discounts the data accordingly. But you wouldn't know that either. What you don't know is a body of info that grows every day.

“The man who will not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read.”

You are a politically-propagandized hack. You deny science. You ignore info you don't like. Your posts are the proof.

Do vaccines stop the spread this week? Link? Studies? Spew.
 
Link the peer reviewed studies, please.

Why? You going to read them? Of course you won't. Last August in another thread, I linked something like 163 studies, with 75 being peer reviewed and even some double blind. I linked to you specifically several studies and an article from the creator of Ivermectin regarding its covid potential, and you dismissed it all.
 
Because scientists keep doing peer review studies. I guess they make money to do them. Surely a greedy dude like you understands that.

Why do you deny science when you don't like the result?

Better question - why does one science study say ivermectin is effective at something (here, apparently preventing death from Covid) and other science study says something different?

Does the vaccine stop spread this week? Have your propagandists told you what to say yet?







People like you are the problem.
 
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But he’s smarter than you …

When was the last time YOU read a Covid study and explained it to others? With or without politics?

He's smarter than all of us on this board - if you're measuring by YouTube hits. He's got you and others watching every one of his vids. Dude is printing far more than he made nursing or as a PhD of Nursing.
 







People like you are the problem.
Stop acting like you read anything but the titles.

You criticize what you have not read.

The British guy provides links to every study he reviews. And unlike you, he reads them before he discusses them. And unlike you, he doesn’t just read the titles.



You are a clown. You proved it again in this thread, by shooting off your mouth in a way that proved what you did, and did NOT do.

Go away and don’t read some other stuff. Then pretend to tell others what you didn’t read meant and said.

Try a kindergarten. They’ll buy your uninformed BS and give you a cookie too.


You lied. People died. Does the vaccine stop the spread this week? Link us a study title.
 
He's smarter than all of us on this board - if you're measuring by YouTube hits. He's got you and others watching every one of his vids. Dude is printing far more than he made nursing or as a PhD of Nursing.
You need to read more. YouTube ad review is next to nothing these days. YouTube keeps it. Plus, he’s been in the public health policy gig for almost 2 decades, working mostly with third world countries, using videos as teaching tools to improve health care in such places.

I don’t watch all his stuff, but the ones I have watched are well done, unless you need your info in CNN sound-bites. He surveys data and studies from across the globe, doesn’t give a shit about Donald Trump or American politics (which is why fools like The Clown don’t like him - their science is based on politics), and just gives you the raw info, including studies, even when he disagrees with them.

American political sycophant propaganda receptacles like The Clowh don’t like him because he won’t accept political BS instead of the data.

Based on the DATA, he was months ahead of the CDC about Covid being airborne, about Vitamin D, about the sources/strains of the variants, and especially about Omicron. The Clown and other clowns don’t like him for one reason - he reviewed studies that were BOTH for and against the treatments that Trump liked, and Trump trumps science for American political sycophant propaganda receptacles like The Clown. So they reject a guy who says “here is a study that says yes and a study that says no and a study that say inconclusive and another yes, etc.” They prefer selective science that they don’t read.
 
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You need to read more. YouTube ad review is next to nothing these days. YouTube keeps it. Plus, he’s been in the public health policy gig for almost 2 decades, working mostly with third world countries, using videos as teaching tools to improve health care in such places.

I don’t watch all his stuff, but the ones I have watched are well done, unless you need your info in CNN sound-bites. He surveys data and studies from across the globe, doesn’t give a shit about Donald Trump or American politics (which is why fools like The Clown don’t like him - their science is based on politics), and just gives you the raw info, including studies, even when he disagrees with them.

American political sycophant propaganda receptacles like The Clowh don’t like him because he won’t accept political BS instead of the data.

Based on the DATA, he was months ahead of the CDC about Covid being airborne, about Vitamin D, about the sources/strains of the variants, and especially about Omicron. The Clown and other clowns don’t like him for one reason - he reviewed studies that were BOTH for and against the treatments that Trump liked, and Trump trumps science for American political sycophant propaganda receptacles like The Clown. So they reject a guy who says “here is a study that says yes and a study that says no and a study that say inconclusive and another yes, etc.” They prefer selective science that they don’t read.

Wut?

 
No. Do your own homework. They were provided every time anybody linked this guy. HE links the studies, which you would know if you looked at his videos for even seconds. But you don't. You just criticize what you dont even read or review. You are nothing but a propaganda receptacle. Your uninformed opinions are worthless, except for the comedy of watching a mental jester.

I prefer that you continue to spew uniformed idiocy as always, proven by the fact you didn't look at the videos and see the clearly provided studies. And PS - when he reviews non-peer reviewed studies, he says so, and discounts the data accordingly. But you wouldn't know that either. What you don't know is a body of info that grows every day.

“The man who will not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read.”

You are a politically-propagandized hack. You deny science. You ignore info you don't like. Your posts are the proof.

Do vaccines stop the spread this week? Link? Studies? Spew.
You missed his nuance. He didn’t say link in his links. He said link his peer-reviewed studies.

Carry on... (popcorn)
 
You missed his nuance. He didn’t say link in his links. He said link his peer-reviewed studies.

Carry on... (popcorn)
The peer reviewed studies, and the non-peer reviewed studies, and the raw data, discussed by the guy are all - always - linked in his comments below his video. Only a clown who wants to act like he knows stuff he never reviewed could possible miss them. Thus, The Clown - the single most intellectually-dishonest poster on this board - missed them.
 
Wut?

What?


Your link is not the norm. (Probably isn’t a peer-reviewed anti-Trump Clown Show either.)

PS - just because YOU buy Kardashian videos doesn’t mean a medical guy can make the big bucks. But if the guy made some money during Covid by putting out data instead of Trump/anti-Trump Americanized propaganda created for fools like The Clown, good for him. I doubt if his teaching videos to Africans made him much, and the Covid train is about over. And if the CDC was doing it’s job, this guy would have no US audience. But the Trump/anti-Trump debate forced thinkers to other sources. I wish I could get him to cover RA-based immunodeficiencies because in this country the answer is “we don’t know/cant say/sign the waiver/pay and leave.”
 
I doubt there will ever be large scale studies done regarding a generic drug. No cost/benefit to such a thing.
The government funded multiple (>10) very large scale clinical trials of ivermectin. It was central to some of the very first COVID funding bills. They also funded a variety of other long-shot ideas such as different vitamin cocktails. There is no argument to be made that it wasn't studied in controlled settings.
 
Better question - why does one science study say ivermectin is effective at something (here, apparently preventing death from Covid) and other science study says something different?
Because there are many different types of studies that can be done and they all have different relevance to treating human disease.

1) Does a compound impede infection of a COVID-like virus (not SAR-COV2 itself, but a benign analog that is safer to work with in a lab), in a biochemical assay (test tube).

2) Does it work when we go to one of those Biohazard Safety level 4 labs where people put on the space suits and work with real patient-derived virus, in a biochemical assay (test tube).

3) Does it work in an animal experiement with rodents in one one of those BSL4 labs?

4) Does it show some statistical benefit in humans when added to standard of care, off-label at doctor's discretion, without blinding, patient selection protocols, or large patient populations to minimize confounding variables and to give meaningful statistics?

5) Does it show some statistical benefit in humans in controlled, double-blinded FDA-approved clinical trials, with selection protocols and large patient populations to minimize confounding variables and to give meaningful statistics?

Studies of types 1, 2, 3, and 4 are falsely taken to mean "IT WORKS" and that confuses many people, not just you.

Studies of type 5 are the gold standard. If it works, show me results in studies of type 5. Many have been done. Some have been reported. None of them show a statistical benefit for ivermectin. Full stop. NONE.
 
Because there are many different types of studies that can be done and they all have different relevance to treating human disease.

1) Does a compound impede infection of a COVID-like virus (not SAR-COV2 itself, but a benign analog that is safer to work with in a lab), in a biochemical assay (test tube).

2) Does it work when we go to one of those Biohazard Safety level 4 labs where people put on the space suits and work with real patient-derived virus, in a biochemical assay (test tube).

3) Does it work in an animal experiement with rodents in one one of those BSL4 labs?

4) Does it show some statistical benefit in humans when added to standard of care, off-label at doctor's discretion, without blinding, patient selection protocols, or large patient populations to minimize confounding variables and to give meaningful statistics?

5) Does it show some statistical benefit in humans in controlled, double-blinded FDA-approved clinical trials, with selection protocols and large patient populations to minimize confounding variables and to give meaningful statistics?

Studies of types 1, 2, 3, and 4 are falsely taken to mean "IT WORKS" and that confuses many people, not just you.

Studies of type 5 are the gold standard. If it works, show me results in studies of type 5. Many have been done. Some have been reported. None of them show a statistical benefit for ivermectin. Full stop. NONE.
Double blind or double wide?



 
Stop acting like you read anything but the titles.

You criticize what you have not read.

The British guy provides links to every study he reviews. And unlike you, he reads them before he discusses them. And unlike you, he doesn’t just read the titles.



You are a clown. You proved it again in this thread, by shooting off your mouth in a way that proved what you did, and did NOT do.

Go away and don’t read some other stuff. Then pretend to tell others what you didn’t read meant and said.

Try a kindergarten. They’ll buy your uninformed BS and give you a cookie too.


You lied. People died. Does the vaccine stop the spread this week? Link us a study title.
Which of my links are incorrect?
 
he doesn’t “tout” studies.

he reads and reviews them - even provides links to them so folks can read them if they want

he has even covered studies that reached differing results on ivermectin

did you watch those? Look them up on your political sites to see if you are permitted to agree or disagree?

he doesn’t engage in selective science … like most folks here

A phD who had to count the zeros on a p value? Who doesn’t know the difference between less & fewer? Who goes through great pains to continually say how significant a study is without acknowledging the shortcomings in it that even the authors do (e.g., non double blind or placebo controlled study) and not to mention that the people writing the Brazil study are in the advocacy business.
I also haven’t looked it up but I’m curious what the peer review process is for that website. It’s a big deal to say “peer reviewed” but I have a feeling that the cureus.com process might be giving a copy to Joe in Accounting or running it by the local anti-vax group.
MTIOTF took issue with my saying he "touted" the study. But imho what he says in the vid description amounts to trying to "sell" this study. Esp when the NIH was pretty explicit about the study making claims that the official statistics did not confirm...

For example this table comparing covid cases in cities that did and did not make ivermectin distributions...

Comparison of number of COVID-19 cases in Brazilian cities with and without Ivermectin distribution campaigns. The bolded represent cities where mass distributions of ivermectin occurred in June 2020. Not only did the amount of covid cases decrease all 3 cities where Ivermectin was NOT distributed, but it increased in Itajai and the 2 other cities where the mass ivermectin distribution occurred. In fact, at the beginning of 2021, Itajai and Macapa had two of the highest fatality rates among all Brazilian cities...
JuneJulyAugustChange from June to August (%)
Itajaí
1385 (2123)
1891 (2854)
2733 (998)
97% (−53%)
Chapecó
1583 (1760)​
1337 (1754)​
1926 (1405)​
22% (−20%)​
Macapá
7960 (7966)
2501 (2481)
1742 (2370)
−78% (−70%)
Ananindeua
1620 (1520)​
1523 (1521)​
991 (1014)​
−39% (−30%)​
Natal
8695 (9009)
7497 (7554)
3304 (1590)
−62% (−82%)
João Pessoa
9939 (9437)​
8032 (7963)​
5555 (5384)​
−41% (−43%)
So did the "Brit guy" explain that in his defense of the study? Did he explain that the study had serious methodology issues, when they basically gave people ivermectin, advised hem to take a particular dose for a number of prescribed days, and then basically conducted follow up consisting of basically accepting that the subjects did as advised, with no actual way of determining the veracity of those claims? Not to mention the study did nothing to differentiate between people who took/didn't take the ivermectin other than one group said the took it and the others said they didn't...

And just so we're clear, the multiple debunking analysis of this study are not directed at the "Brit Guy". I found at least 4 that date back to at least Dec 2021, and he's posting a video in March 2022 that completely ignores the fact that multiple people have previously documented the issues with this study...

 
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I have to laugh. How many patients died at the altar of social media and political bias?

Please don't take Dr. Campbell's word for it. Read the studies. SPOILER: IVERMECTIN provided SEVENTY PERCENT REDUCTION IN MORTALITY VS. REMDESIVIR.

Second study showed using Ivermectin cut infection rates in half.


Anyone who has dismissed Ivermectin as a "horse dewormer" has blood on their hands.

(**Ivermectin is a Nobel-prize winning anti-parasitical drug, required to be given to immigrants coming into the U.S. from many countries. It has also been used to control parastes in livestock.)
I wonder why this video got removed? These vids are Campbell's bread and butter, so something caused him to remove it...

Could it be this (one sided) twitter exchange between the author of the paper and Jordan Peterson, who basically tweeted about the study Campbell was discussing in the (now-deleted) OP video?

So here's Petersons tweet from March 7...



And here are replies from the author Lakov Efimenko, beginning the next day (March 8)... This mention of misinterpretation is probably more than Peterson can handle... And telling him it was NOT peer reviewed, and the reason it's only an abstract is because the evidence was to weak to submit it? Peterson likely had a heart attack...



Of course Peterson (and his minions) ignore what Lakov has to say, but this comment hits a little close, based on the OP...



Then Lakov a day later...a little more damning...



Another Campbell mention here...




Video tying it all together...



Just wanted to update everyone on this thread...
 
Explanation in video below. The video was removed because the abstract was withdrawn by its authors. Research ongoing in various places. Stay tuned!

 
How would anyone know ahead of time he is allergic to the Covid vaccine? And which one? Or all of them?

Have you been living under a rock? Many people are allergic to ingredients in the vaccines.



Interesting part of that link is that Covid used to have a separate category but now has been combined with influenza.

And I know someone with GBS. I guess they are just anti-vax Trumpers who deserve to die, right?
 
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I remember when I was a kid trying to make some pancakes from a recipe. It said flip the pancake over a few seconds before the bubbles pop.

Lol. So funny, ****nuts! Imagine flipping the goddamm pancake and then your mom dies! Yeah, didn't think about that, did you, you POS! You think everyone can get the vax without consequence. And the whole ****ing world will be be rainbows and unicorns.

But you are oblivious to those people who are allergic to the ****ing vaccine and can die from anaphylaxis. But to you, **** them! It just a ****ing anti-vax, Trump loving joke. Well, **** you!!!

Triggered??? Yeah, I'm triggered, when some POS, numbnuts **** like you, makes a ****ing pancake joke when people have loved ones who have to choose between a vax that could kill them and living with a virus that could kill them. So just **** yourself and let us know how it feels to watch your mom choose the best way to live and not ****ing die!!!
 
Lol. So funny, ****nuts! Imagine flipping the goddamm pancake and then your mom dies! Yeah, didn't think about that, did you, you POS! You think everyone can get the vax without consequence. And the whole ****ing world will be be rainbows and unicorns.

But you are oblivious to those people who are allergic to the ****ing vaccine and can die from anaphylaxis. But to you, **** them! It just a ****ing anti-vax, Trump loving joke. Well, **** you!!!

Triggered??? Yeah, I'm triggered, when some POS, numbnuts **** like you, makes a ****ing pancake joke when people have loved ones who have to choose between a vax that could kill them and living with a virus that could kill them. So just **** yourself and let us know how it feels to watch your mom choose the best way to live and not ****ing die!!!
My mom is dead.
 
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