Ivermectin: wonder drug.
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Not obsessed just was taught as a child not to lie, call people fat or make fun of the handicapped. We’ve taught r kids and grandkids the same. U brought up the political so freed me to do the same.
FDA hadn’t and won’t approve for Covid. I’m married to an RN who personally vaccinated thousands here in Florida. We believe in science. Guys who test this stuff r way smarter the we in the public. But if someone want to take a veterinary drug go for it. Just don’t blame the doctors, nurses and scientists if it doesn’t work or make u sick.
He was talking about King George and the American colonists from the 1700's.
Ivermectin has been studied and re-studied all over the world now. The goal and results and conclusions vary. Most folks just pre-pick a desired result and then go find a study (or wait for one) that supports their conclusion.
Studies include whether it helps stop the spread, whether it helps minimize symptomatic Covid (pick a strain), whether it helps prevent or shorten "hospitalization" from Covid (pick a strain), whether it helps prevent or shorten ICU admission from Covid (pick a strain), whether it helps prevent or shorten "venting" from Covid (pick a strain), and whether it helps prevent death (can't shorten) from Covid (pick a strain).
On this board, the discussion usually starts and stops with "Trump bad" and/or "Trump good" because, well, Trump, and because, well, partisan politics, and because, well, Cooler.
No. It's because his traveling shitshow continues (next stop - - Michigan), he continues to propagate the Big Lie, and he remains the most powerful figure in what used to be a great political party.
Sure glad u pointed out the King George thing. With my third grade education I never would have picked up on that.
Don't blame me for your obsession. I didn't name any politician.
You're a typical immature Democrat who is obsessed with Trump.
Do you have a link to anyone blaming doctors and scientists if something they took of their own free will didn't work?
I highly doubt you do - it's just another straw man you Dims like to throw out there to justify your I-know-what's-best-for-you attitude.
There has to be standards and even though it's not perfect the medical field needs to rely on a method of testing that's approved by a governing body. Would you rather have a system that has no standards?
Are you even reading what I'm writing?
I'm not against standards and I don't give a FF if ivermectrin is approved by the FDA or not. I'm saying it's up to the individual to decide whether to take something that they think may help them.
Just like many people take non-FDA approved dietary supplements. Do you go out of your way to mock and ridicule them?
No I don’t have articles linking that. I just have my RN wife who had things thrown at her, sworn at and she and the doctors were specifically blamed for Covid. As I said she personally thousands of vaccinations all over western Florida from Naples to Tampa. Naples was the worst. Police were always there for the nurses protection.
All she was trying to do was to save lives. I made her quit because of all the harassment and she would get terribly upset because of it. And for the first two and a half months she was not allowed to get vaccinated herself by the company that hired her. So she was exposed every day to hundreds of people. But no I don’t have written articles u asked about.
oh yeah and they sent her to little Haiti in Miami and the national guard had to escort her and the other nurses out before they gave a single vaccination. Took them 4 miles from there for their own safety.
U obviously didn’t read my post. Said folks could do what they want. Just don’t come crying when it goes sideways. And how many times do I have to repeat. Not a Democrat. Registered Republican. But changing my affiliation for midterms to independent. And u r an idiot. I know I’m not the first nor last to make that observation here.
How about we just talk bb instead of politics. I hate getting dragged down that rabbit hole. I’d hope we all do.
Like you, I don't give a FF if people take ivermectin, or if they take supplements. Many of those supplements come with dangers. So my complaint in both cases is for people who proselytize either. Once people move from snake oil drinker into snake oil salesman there becomes a problem.
On the contrary, the results are extraordinarily consistent. All double blinded controlled clinical studies show that it is as effective as throwing a pinch of salt over your shoulder, placing a glass pyrimid in your window, or saying some magic incantations. As in... it does nothing, zip, NADA. The plus is maybe that it won't hurt you unless you take cattle doses.
All unblinded uncontrolled "let me try this" and "make it up as a go" non-studies show that... if I want to think it works, I will say that it does, and that's that. I may even publish it in the Gnaw Bone Medical Gazette or make a youtube video with my nurse buddy.
Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of Covid-19 or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of Covid-19.
That's okay, but it could kill them, too. How many people were dying from COVID and regretted not getting the vaccine on their death bed? Steve Jobs took an experimental treatment for his very curable cancer. He changed his mind at one point and started to receive the proven chemotherapy, but it was too late.
Your third grade education - if its over 20 years old - is better than a Ph.D. from many of the current "educational" institutions.
As effective AT WHAT?
I mentioned studies of multiple medical outcomes, around the globe, regarding multiple strains of Covid.
You did not.
You said "it" was "effective" as salt over the shoulder. But at what? Killing snails?
Wow, first time I returned to this thread since my post. Weird that you point out you voted against Trump and attacked me for "not caring" (and being an asshole), when my response was to DANC. And I basically pointed out that DANC criticized my post, while trying to claim I said things I NEVER SAID. I'd be interested in you pointing out what I said that you found so offensive. Or more importantly WAS NOT TRUE?
I don't think of you as some non-partisan, although that's apparently your schtick. But I didn't necessarily think of you at the same level of phoney as mcphoney (who couldn't wait to jump in with the likes of Lucy and DANC). One confirmed troll and two who more or less fit the definition of saying things so absurd they almost have to be trolling...
I won't say you've never criticized Mas as "hateful" (which he is) since I can't really recall. I know mcphoney has called me stupid and an idiot, which would bother me if any of the respectable posters on the board expressed similar sentiment. But I also know mcphoney has never called Mas hateful or stupid, and unlike you never even expressed solidarity when one of his fellow right wingers criticizes Mas as too much of a wing nut.I believe you've given a like or two to posts calling Mas out, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt over whether you've expressed the same vitriol towards him as you have to me...
I do think it's interesting that people who have never described Mas's pro-Fascist anti-Semitic garbage as "hateful" chose to "like" a post which refers to me as "hateful". And it's pretty bizarre that my response to a a post from DANC claiming I said what I never said and attacking me for same, elicited your characterization of me as "hateful". I mean this is the post (not directed towards you, btw) that earned me the label as "hateful". On the surface I don't see anything particularly objectionable, but maybe I'm missing it?
"So do you ever respond to posts without employing Trumpian tricks like criticizing someone for things they did not say? Or in this case completely shifting the subject to one you apparently just made up?...
"Here is what cray said and what I responded to. Keep in mind his use of for(sic) should actually be four as in 4 years... The bolded is the question I was responding to...
Now I actually took it pretty easy on cray. He asked about all 4 of the Trump years, and I restricted my answer to the FIRST year (2017) of the Trump Presidency, since we were discussing the 13 military deaths in Biden's first year (2021). Obviously, if Trump's first year total of 33 is close to 3x Biden's total of 13 in 2021, then Trump's 4 yr total is going to be even higher...
Now can you explain what in the world this response from you...
"There were no US military deaths in Afghanistan for 18 months before the 13"
has any relevance to what I posted? For refresher my post in full...
"Did you even research this? There were 33 servicemembers killed in 2017, which represented the first INCREASE in casualties in a war zone in 6 yrs... In additioin to Afghanistan, US troops were killed in Yemen, Niger and Somalia..."
I then linked to the proof of what I posted, since I don't expect people to just take my word for it...
And you came back with your totally irrelevant and lacking context facebook meme as if I had somehow argued that there were casualties in Afghanistan after Feb 2020, when the peace accords were signed. Were you so intent on getting that facebook zinger in, that you didn't see "2017" right smack there in my post?
In actuality there were 11 additional deaths in 2020 mainly in aircraft crashes or other accidents, but again the totality of my point was that the 13 deaths in Biden's first year were barely a third of the deaths in Trump's first year. Now if you can find any mention of 2020 in my response to cray, then you and the two other reading comprehension challenged folks who liked your post can enjoy a mutual satisfaction moment pointing it out."
Hey it was a smartass post, in response to DANC claiming I said things I didn't. But "hateful" as in one of Mas's numerous posts including repetition of thinly veiled anti-Semitic tropes? I'm not seeing it...
No one is 'crying when it goes sideways'.
Another strawman you Democrats like to throw up when you're losing an argument.
What ID did you used to post under? I'm guessing with Bowelmania or Cosmic.
Responding to your own post! Did you forget which ID you're posting under?
What a clown you are!
Chris Cuomo is taking ivermectin for Covid. Yes, THAT Chris Cuomo.
www.yahoo.com
Chris Cuomo Makes Ivermectin About-Face After Denouncing Its Use for COVID: ‘I Am Now Taking a Regular Dose’
"Joe Rogan was right," says the former anchor for CNN, where he once said its proponents "need to be called out and shamed" The post Chris Cuomo Makes Ivermectin About-Face After Denouncing Its Use for COVID: ‘I Am Now Taking a Regular Dose’ appeared first on TheWrap.
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Chris Cuomo is taking ivermectin for Covid. Yes, THAT Chris Cuomo.
Chris Cuomo Makes Ivermectin About-Face After Denouncing Its Use for COVID: ‘I Am Now Taking a Regular Dose’
"Joe Rogan was right," says the former anchor for CNN, where he once said its proponents "need to be called out and shamed" The post Chris Cuomo Makes Ivermectin About-Face After Denouncing Its Use for COVID: ‘I Am Now Taking a Regular Dose’ appeared first on TheWrap.
He's an idiot, which is why he got fired by CNN. This has been studied multiple times. I can't believe this is still even being discussed.
Clinical Trials Show Ivermectin Does Not Benefit COVID-19 Patients, Contrary to Social Media Claims - FactCheck.org
Randomized clinical trials have repeatedly found that ivermectin does not benefit COVID-19 patients. The National Institutes of Health recommends against its use for COVID-19. Ivermectin enthusiasts continue to falsely claim the contrary.
www.factcheck.org
If people want to take it, have at it. It has no effect on COVID.
COVID-19 drugs: Are there any that work?
Medicine can help people who are at risk of, diagnosed with, or have symptoms of COVID-19.
www.mayoclinic.org
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Science has literally brought us miracles. Unfortunately there’s nothing science can do for stupid.He's an idiot, which is why he got fired by CNN. This has been studied multiple times. I can't believe this is still even being discussed.
Clinical Trials Show Ivermectin Does Not Benefit COVID-19 Patients, Contrary to Social Media Claims - FactCheck.org
Randomized clinical trials have repeatedly found that ivermectin does not benefit COVID-19 patients. The National Institutes of Health recommends against its use for COVID-19. Ivermectin enthusiasts continue to falsely claim the contrary.
If people want to take it, have at it. It has no effect on COVID.
COVID-19 drugs: Are there any that work?
Medicine can help people who are at risk of, diagnosed with, or have symptoms of COVID-19.
