IU is one of best bubble teams, committee can’t fall for group think...

[Wiedersehen]

It’s clear to anyone who doesn’t have an agenda, that IU belongs in the field over teams like Temple, St. John’s, Belmont, TCU, NC State, Clemson, Alabama, Ole Miss, Arizona State, UNCG, Furman, etc. Temple sucks... not sure how they’re in the field right now!

Hopefully the committee really picks the best teams available for the at large spots and doesn’t pay attention to Lunardi and Palm. IU would beat most (all) of these bubble teams 7 or 8 times over 10 games.

Injuries were a huge factor during our bad stretch and that should be considered. If we win 2 or 3 of those close games (ridiculous games like Iowa) while banged up, we’re not even having bubble conversations today.

I still think the NCAA does the right thing and IU gets in the dance. The committee look at our inpresssive Q1 record and how we’ve played while healthy. We can literally beat anyone on any given night, unlike these other bubble teams.

Quit anchoring yourselves to Palm and Lunardi and look at the facts. This team should get in, and will.

 

[Brewskie]

It’s clear to anyone who doesn’t have an agenda, that IU belongs in the field over teams like Temple, St. John’s, Belmont, TCU, NC State, Clemson, Alabama, Ole Miss, Arizona State, UNCG, Furman, etc. Temple sucks... not sure how they’re in the field right now!

Hopefully the committee really picks the best teams available for the at large spots and doesn’t pay attention to Lunardi and Palm. IU would beat most (all) of these bubble teams 7 or 8 times over 10 games.

Injuries were a huge factor during our bad stretch and that should be considered. If we win 2 or 3 of those close games (ridiculous games like Iowa) while banged up, we’re not even having bubble conversations today.

I still think the NCAA does the right thing and IU gets in the dance. The committee look at our inpresssive Q1 record and how we’ve played while healthy. We can literally beat anyone on any given night, unlike these other bubble teams.

Quit anchoring yourselves to Palm and Lunardi and look at the facts. This team should get in, and will.

I like your enthusiasm! However, IU has had many many chances to end this debate(or avoid it altogether) on the floor and didn't do it, so if we don't get in, I won't be surprised nor feel like we got jobbed.

 

[BrewCityCy]

It’s over. Give it up.

Yesterday was the chance for a bid and we failed.

 

[Tscurlo]

[QUOTE="and how we’ve played while healthy." [/QUOTE]

Like losing to Ohio State yesterday with healthy players???

I don't think we're in. If we would have won yesterday... probably a different story.

That's just my opinion.

 

[Fro]

We are ahead of OSU and Minnesota in NET, Sagarin, and Kenpom rankings

The idea that it's a slam dunk that OSU should be in over us is not borne out by the facts if the goal is to have the best at-large teams in as opposed to the teams with the best records.

 

[WiskyHoosier]

We are ahead of OSU and Minnesota in NET, Sagarin, and Kenpom rankings

The idea that it's a slam dunk that OSU should be in over us is not borne out by the facts if the goal is to have the best at-large teams in as opposed to the teams with the best records.

And yet we are 0-3 against those 2 teams you listed

 

[fpeaugh]

We went 17-15 with a top 10 talented roster in a weak league. Stick a fork in us.

 

[coachv jr]

We are ahead of OSU and Minnesota in NET, Sagarin, and Kenpom rankings

The idea that it's a slam dunk that OSU should be in over us is not borne out by the facts if the goal is to have the best at-large teams in as opposed to the teams with the best records.

the goal should be to let the men decide it on the court. ohio st decided it yesterday, and before that as did minnesota

 

[Wiedersehen]

the goal should be to let the men decide it on the court. ohio st decided it yesterday, and before that as did minnesota

If it came down to IU vs OSU for a spot, I’d agree with you. But it won’t. It’s going to be IU vs. “Ole Miss” or “Belmont”... we are better than those teams.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

us.

 

[Rakkasan29]

We went 17-15 with a top 10 talented roster in a weak league. Stick a fork in us.

Please describe in detail this "Top 10 talented roster" and why it should be considered as such...?

 

[minneman]

It’s clear to anyone who doesn’t have an agenda, that IU belongs in the field over teams like Temple, St. John’s, Belmont, TCU, NC State, Clemson, Alabama, Ole Miss, Arizona State, UNCG, Furman, etc. Temple sucks... not sure how they’re in the field right now!

Hopefully the committee really picks the best teams available for the at large spots and doesn’t pay attention to Lunardi and Palm. IU would beat most (all) of these bubble teams 7 or 8 times over 10 games.

Injuries were a huge factor during our bad stretch and that should be considered. If we win 2 or 3 of those close games (ridiculous games like Iowa) while banged up, we’re not even having bubble conversations today.

I still think the NCAA does the right thing and IU gets in the dance. The committee look at our inpresssive Q1 record and how we’ve played while healthy. We can literally beat anyone on any given night, unlike these other bubble teams.

Quit anchoring yourselves to Palm and Lunardi and look at the facts. This team should get in, and will.

They have some quality wins and no terrible losses. The problem is that they don't have the quantity of wins to really be considered for the NCAAT. You're right that if they had won 2 or 3 more games they'd be in, the problem is that they didn't. I just don't see the committee selecting a 17 win team even with taking injuries into account so I'd be absolutely shocked if IU got in the tournament. They'll be playing in the NIT and will probably have a pretty good seed there.

But nothing wrong with being positive. It's actually refreshing on this site that has so many trolls and very negative people.

 

[victorbear]

More Cartoons from the class clown

 

[bailey777]

It’s clear to anyone who doesn’t have an agenda, that IU belongs in the field over teams like Temple, St. John’s, Belmont, TCU, NC State, Clemson, Alabama, Ole Miss, Arizona State, UNCG, Furman, etc. Temple sucks... not sure how they’re in the field right now!

Hopefully the committee really picks the best teams available for the at large spots and doesn’t pay attention to Lunardi and Palm. IU would beat most (all) of these bubble teams 7 or 8 times over 10 games.

Injuries were a huge factor during our bad stretch and that should be considered. If we win 2 or 3 of those close games (ridiculous games like Iowa) while banged up, we’re not even having bubble conversations today.

I still think the NCAA does the right thing and IU gets in the dance. The committee look at our inpresssive Q1 record and how we’ve played while healthy. We can literally beat anyone on any given night, unlike these other bubble teams.

Quit anchoring yourselves to Palm and Lunardi and look at the facts. This team should get in, and will.

We are not getting in. There were three games we should have won and we did not. Tha is the differnece not yesterday.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

"Hopefully the committee really picks the best teams available for the at large spots and doesn’t pay attention to Lunardi and Palm. IU would beat most (all) of these bubble teams 7 or 8 times over 10 games."

We would beat ALL of the bubble teams? LIke, shall we say...Ohio State? We had our chance to prove that point and spit the bit.

No team gets an at-large bid with the total losses we have, a -4 losing conference record, and an overall downward trajectory since 1/Jan. No team. We're nowhere near 20 wins, barely over .500 and lack any consistency. Our resume SCREAMS "NIT".

 

[ThreeToMakeTwo]

Good grief! Now we're talking ourselves up as bubble team. IU will just lose its game anyway. Play the NIT and maybe get some games to win. Maybe.

 

[82hoosier]

We are ahead of OSU and Minnesota in NET, Sagarin, and Kenpom rankings

The idea that it's a slam dunk that OSU should be in over us is not borne out by the facts if the goal is to have the best at-large teams in as opposed to the teams with the best records.

In case you missed it Ohio State was the higher-seeded team and won the game yesterday. And they also won the other game they played this year. Surely Ohio State beating Indiana both times they played and having a better conference record should be worth something for getting them in the tournament.

 

[Kyser123]

No chance will get in. How does a team who loses 12/13 deserve to be in? I hope you’re right, but I just don’t see it.

 

[Deli owl]

I have been impressed with Ole Miss. Very good defensive team that just can't seem to break through. Major bubble team imo.

 

[Kyser123]

If we were a horse , we’d be euthanized

 

[evvcabinetman]

I'm curious - I'm guessing you've never seen Belmont play this year? I've seen them numerous times. They're well coached, play hard AND smart, run a disciplined system, and have multiple players that can knock down threes. IU has none of those attributes. On a neutral court, if Belmont's freshman big is healthy (sprained ankle last Saturday), I'll take Belmont straight up over IU. They show up ready to play every time out. IU doesn't.

IU was sleepwalking through an entire month and a half of the season - I would hate to see that lack of effort and focus rewarded with an NCAA bid - they didn't earn it.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

More Cartoons from the class clown

More shit from the class butthole.

 

[FtWayneToAtlanta]

Please describe in detail this "Top 10 talented roster" and why it should be considered as such...?

Or how in the heck you consider the B1G "weak"

 

[bailey777]

No chance will get in. How does a team who loses 12/13 deserve to be in? I hope you’re right, but I just don’t see it.

I do not even know why we are having this discussion. There is no chance IU gets in.

 

[T.M.P.]

It’s clear to anyone who doesn’t have an agenda, that IU belongs in the field over teams like Temple, St. John’s, Belmont, TCU, NC State, Clemson, Alabama, Ole Miss, Arizona State, UNCG, Furman, etc. Temple sucks... not sure how they’re in the field right now!

Hopefully the committee really picks the best teams available for the at large spots and doesn’t pay attention to Lunardi and Palm. IU would beat most (all) of these bubble teams 7 or 8 times over 10 games.

Injuries were a huge factor during our bad stretch and that should be considered. If we win 2 or 3 of those close games (ridiculous games like Iowa) while banged up, we’re not even having bubble conversations today.

I still think the NCAA does the right thing and IU gets in the dance. The committee look at our inpresssive Q1 record and how we’ve played while healthy. We can literally beat anyone on any given night, unlike these other bubble teams.

Quit anchoring yourselves to Palm and Lunardi and look at the facts. This team should get in, and will.

No. We had our chance and blew it.

 

[victorbear]

I do not even know why we are having this discussion. There is no chance IU gets in.

We are a #1 seed in the NIT that's where we are going, just like Penny State, Utah, Missississippi State and the great powerhouse Western Kentucky last year.

 

[T.M.P.]

We went 17-15 with a top 10 talented roster in a weak league. Stick a fork in us.

You're an idiot ...

STFU

 

[HLW1010]

VCU losing in the A10 means one more bubble spot will be taken by the A10 automatic bid with another team winning. A10 was a one bid league and VCU is sitting at an 8 seed right now in the Bracketology. Have to think they get an at-large.

 

[Wiedersehen]

"Hopefully the committee really picks the best teams available for the at large spots and doesn’t pay attention to Lunardi and Palm. IU would beat most (all) of these bubble teams 7 or 8 times over 10 games."

We would beat ALL of the bubble teams? LIke, shall we say...Ohio State? We had our chance to prove that point and spit the bit.

No team gets an at-large bid with the total losses we have, a -4 losing conference record, and an overall downward trajectory since 1/Jan. No team. We're nowhere near 20 wins, barely over .500 and lack any consistency. Our resume SCREAMS "NIT".

OSU is in. I didn’t list them as a bubble team. They’ll be a 10 seed.

 

[coachv jr]

If it came down to IU vs OSU for a spot, I’d agree with you. But it won’t. It’s going to be IU vs. “Ole Miss” or “Belmont”... we are better than those teams.

i wouldn't bet on it

 

[coachv jr]

We are ahead of OSU and Minnesota in NET, Sagarin, and Kenpom rankings

The idea that it's a slam dunk that OSU should be in over us is not borne out by the facts if the goal is to have the best at-large teams in as opposed to the teams with the best records.

i don't think it's a slam dunk for ohio st either

 

[coachv jr]

They have some quality wins and no terrible losses. The problem is that they don't have the quantity of wins to really be considered for the NCAAT. You're right that if they had won 2 or 3 more games they'd be in, the problem is that they didn't. I just don't see the committee selecting a 17 win team even with taking injuries into account so I'd be absolutely shocked if IU got in the tournament. They'll be playing in the NIT and will probably have a pretty good seed there.

But nothing wrong with being positive. It's actually refreshing on this site that has so many trolls and very negative people.

15 losses is pretty terrible

 

[Deli owl]

We are a #1 seed in the NIT that's where we are going, just like Penny State, Utah, Missississippi State and the great powerhouse Western Kentucky last year.

I think Miss. St. gets in.

 

[minneman]

15 losses is pretty terrible

It's not good but far from terrible considering with another win or two it would likely have made the NCAAT. Anyways, what I said was that they didn't have any terrible losses. As in losses to terrible teams.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

Pease find an example, since the tourney expanded to 64 games, where a team received an at large bid with a record of 17-15 and 8-12 conf. Just one example please.

 

[Daydreamer]

Pease find an example, since the tourney expanded to 64 games, where a team received an at large bid with a record of 17-15 and 8-12 conf. Just one example please.

That obviously isn’t possible since no one had played 20 conference games until this season.

 

[.Gerdis]

It’s clear to anyone who doesn’t have an agenda, that IU belongs in the field over teams like Temple, St. John’s, Belmont, TCU, NC State, Clemson, Alabama, Ole Miss, Arizona State, UNCG, Furman, etc. Temple sucks... not sure how they’re in the field right now!

Hopefully the committee really picks the best teams available for the at large spots and doesn’t pay attention to Lunardi and Palm. IU would beat most (all) of these bubble teams 7 or 8 times over 10 games.

Injuries were a huge factor during our bad stretch and that should be considered. If we win 2 or 3 of those close games (ridiculous games like Iowa) while banged up, we’re not even having bubble conversations today.

I still think the NCAA does the right thing and IU gets in the dance. The committee look at our inpresssive Q1 record and how we’ve played while healthy. We can literally beat anyone on any given night, unlike these other bubble teams.

Quit anchoring yourselves to Palm and Lunardi and look at the facts. This team should get in, and will.

The committee should pick the teams that most deserve a bid. It doesn't matter if "IU would beat" anyone, it just matters what they did with the games they had. Does anyone really believe IU deserves a bid. This team lost 12 of 13 games. Is the committee supposed to forget about that because we won 4 games in a row? Had they been just poor during those 13 games maybe they could have gone 4-9 (which is still lousy) rather than the 1-12 they went.

IU has no one to blame but themselves.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

I keep hearing about no 'bad losses'. While I understand what that means, the following below can't really be described as 'good' losses either:

losing to a NW team that finished last, 4-16, in conference
losing to Neb (who finished 2nd to last) by 15...at HOME
Getting blown out at home by Michigan- 23 pt loss, game over before first TV timeout
Getting destroyed by a 9-11 Minnesota team (losing by 30 at on point the 2nd half)

Again, we got beat by the two bottom dwellers in the conference. And one was a bad home loss.

Can't see how the committee can spin any of those into 'quality' losses now that the season has played out.

We're fortunate to even be debating this...I said in another string, if Phin doesn't hit those game winners vs Butler and LVille our season could be over now.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

That obviously isn’t possible since no one had played 20 conference games until this season.

ok...just one at large with a 17-15 overall record. Screw conf records.

 

[Kyser123]

This is some fans version of a participation ncaa berth. We didn’t earn it. Should’nt be rewarded for a season like this. Want to go to NCAA , don’t lose 12/13.