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it's becoming obvious

I get it, you wanted Beard, I did too.

That's not the accurate story on DeVrie's time at Creighton. He had opportunities, but didn't take them for whatever reason. Drake fit, he took it and did something no one else had done prior. Then repeated it at a P4 level last year.

Lastly, it took many of the top names more than one year to reach where they are currently. Beard didn't do it in his first year at Ole Miss, neither did Golden at Florida, neither did Williams at A&M, Pearl at Auburn, Barnes at Tenn, or Oats at Alabama.
Fair point, but also, in fairness: did their programshave literally 0 returning players, and the portal, NIL and $ to burn? And, yes, it may work out and all of us worrying might be proven 100% wrong, I sure hope so!
 
if woody was the problem, I would have retained a few players
Which players would you retain? You have a coach who has to revamp the culture...from getting paid to go through the motions to winning as a well-oiled machine. That's a bridge too far with the roster that left. Honestly....the guys who were team-oriented aren't necessarily B1G level players. There's no room for sentimental tokens on the roster. No matter how the recruiting winds up...it will be a different culture. That alone represents progress.
 
Seth Greenberg told Dan Dakich that CDD got everything out of those kids at W. Virginia. That says a lot to me. Let's give him some time
That’s really what most fans want. That’s the exact reasons I like Beard so much too. I also liked that about Coach Knight. I love seeing a team improve all season and play to their potential as a team. I’m giving CDD a chance and hoping he can do that here at IU as well. That’s what made this year tough…there was so much talent wasted.
 
There were several openings at other P4 schools. None of them hired Beard, either. Apparently IU wasn’t the only one concerned about his background
Or maybe Beard is really happy where he is and has no desire to go to another school and start a rebuild. Who knows.(?)
 
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My last statement on this thread, one that I've made on other threads...

Darian Devries was hired on March 18th.

Some of you must be really green around the ears, as my Dad would say. Meaning, you have no concept of being in the position that CDD is in, and you also are disregarding recent history with coaches who were in the same position. It's possible that some others are lacking the ability to process time or read a basic calendar.

Have any of you ever hired someone? How long did it take from the first contact to their first day on the job? Now, how about getting hired for a new job, then immediately tasked with finding 20 employees that 10 million people are perfectly satisfied with.

I can't make it any clearer.
Not like any of that was a surprise to him, and that he isn’t being paid millions of dollars to do it.
 
Fair point, but also, in fairness: did their programshave literally 0 returning players, and the portal, NIL and $ to burn? And, yes, it may work out and all of us worrying might be proven 100% wrong, I sure hope so!
Pre portal. Easier to sell a kid to stay. It’s hard to judge pre portal to today imho. I go back to looking at who UK, UM and UL all kept and what they got. I’m taking the more patient route.
 
Expectations are much higher for him than anyone in a normal new job scenario.
And again, yes, but the basics don’t change. It takes time and just because he’s paid more money doesn’t mean he’s going to do this any faster than he or anybody else has done before.

So you expected a full staff and roster in 18 days?
 
And again, yes, but the basics don’t change. It takes time and just because he’s paid more money doesn’t mean he’s going to do this any faster than he or anybody else has done before.

So you expected a full staff and roster in 18 days?
Full roster? No. I probably expected more than one guy (Sisley was already committed and Tucker was a given) by now though.
 
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Passed on Coaches.

2017 Steve Alford, Bruce Pearl, Will Wade, Greg Marshall, Chris Mack. Tony Bennett.

2021 Thad Matta, Steve Alford, Chris Beard, Porter Moser, Pat Kelsey, John Belien, Bruce Pearl.

2025 Chris Beard, Steve Alford, Thad Matta, Brad Brownell, Ben McCollom, Chris Collins, Will Wade.


So we passes on Pearl, Beard, and Wade twice.
You got it wrong, 90 % of those coaches said NO! Not interested, so simple, not hard to figure it out. IU did OK, it just isn't one of those add a drop of water and instant Final 4. This one might work out this time, IF IU fans have patience. Good Luck with that.
 
Or maybe Beard is really happy where he is and has no desire to go to another school and start a rebuild. Who knows.(?)
Beard just got a pay raise....and he doesn't have to relive the media scrutiny and scandal do-over. Its a win-win for Chris Beard.
 
And again, yes, but the basics don’t change. It takes time and just because he’s paid more money doesn’t mean he’s going to do this any faster than he or anybody else has done before.

So you expected a full staff and roster in 18 days?
Yes…yes they do.
 
I'm wondering why coach didn't bring anyone with him from his previous job. That's a pathway to success for new coaches these days (see memorial stadium).
 
Which players would you retain? You have a coach who has to revamp the culture...from getting paid to go through the motions to winning as a well-oiled machine. That's a bridge too far with the roster that left. Honestly....the guys who were team-oriented aren't necessarily B1G level players. There's no room for sentimental tokens on the roster. No matter how the recruiting winds up...it will be a different culture. That alone represents progress.
reneau rice mgbako
 
You got it wrong, 90 % of those coaches said NO! Not interested, so simple, not hard to figure it out. IU did OK, it just isn't one of those add a drop of water and instant Final 4. This one might work out this time, IF IU fans have patience. Good Luck with that.
IU on your mind 24/7
 
reneau rice mgbako
lol. You’re the dude that pimped up Cronin. You’re the dude that had Beard signed. You’re the dude that has dinners with boosters, yet nothing you say comes true. You’re the dude that posts complete billy Madison gibberish. Maybe let the adults talk for a bit before backing an undersized PG, a black hole and a defensive liability and offense brick.
 
lol. You’re the dude that pimped up Cronin. You’re the dude that had Beard signed. You’re the dude that has dinners with boosters, yet nothing you say comes true. You’re the dude that posts complete billy Madison gibberish. Maybe let the adults talk for a bit before backing an undersized PG, a black hole and a defensive liability and offense brick.
bullshit, Cronin wanted and would have taken the job, didn't pimp him. wrong on beard, money person thought it was a formality, Prez said no. told you Woodson would resign before anyone thought possible. told you Reneau to Miami 2 months ago.
 
bullshit, Cronin wanted and would have taken the job, didn't pimp him. wrong on beard, money person thought it was a formality, Prez said no. told you Woodson would resign before anyone thought possible. told you Reneau to Miami 2 months ago.
IGAF…had you had a clue or source at all or if any of your dinner mates had any idea of anything maybe the name Devries would have been mentioned.
 
Ehh, my view is if we don't want fans bitching, then let the program do something to keep it from happening. I had no clue about CDD, got excited by what I heard and read, but I think there are plenty of legit reasons to be concerned. 1) We seemingly could've had Beard and I think his personality "fit" the job better. Hard to find someone more "Knight-like" in his stature and manner, but sounds like we dismissed him out of hand. That might have been very dumb. 2) Acted quickly to get a jump on things, and well, now? Crickets. Unless you count announcing the hiring of an Asst as news. 3)Assts? NN and DA aren't exactly "head of class" types. Again, it may work, but I doubt they were on anyone's list of desired candidates. 4)Had a couple good prospects on campus with what we're told is a pile of money, well-resourced, and minutes to spare, and... again, crickets. Dix, I can understand if he didn't want to play with TD, but Conwell? IN kid at a critical position of need? That could be a really bad sign. Doesn't mean it can't all work, but I understand people's concerns and, isn't this the place to discuss that?
Conwell is not only from a Purdue family but also has family in Louisville. That at least makes it make a little more sense.
 
I'm not so sure if you told him, you could have your pick of who's left in the portal, to fill the last 12 spots on the roster that we would have a top 25 team. that's concerning. Mich ark Louisville uk , did that last year. I don't like the fact he was an assistant for 19 years before he got his shot at drake. time will tell, I'm skeptical we got the right guy
There’s still 2 more weeks left for players to enter the portal. Still going to be more good players.
 
IGAF…had you had a clue or source at all or if any of your dinner mates had any idea of anything maybe the name Devries would have been mentioned.
Yep. I’ve heard two different things, one that Beard didn’t have an interview and two that he was given a courtesy interview. No idea which is true. But what I am almost sure is true is that Beard was not at all close to being the hire and that Whitten wasn’t the only obstacle to his hiring.
 
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