maybe 2029 will let the boosters get a coach
it's becoming obvious
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Passed on Coaches.
2017 Steve Alford, Bruce Pearl, Will Wade, Greg Marshall, Chris Mack. Tony Bennett.
2021 Thad Matta, Steve Alford, Chris Beard, Porter Moser, Pat Kelsey, John Belien, Bruce Pearl.
2025 Chris Beard, Steve Alford, Thad Matta, Brad Brownell, Ben McCollom, Chris Collins, Will Wade.
So we passes on Pearl, Beard, and Wade twice.
2017 Steve Alford, Bruce Pearl, Will Wade, Greg Marshall, Chris Mack. Tony Bennett.
2021 Thad Matta, Steve Alford, Chris Beard, Porter Moser, Pat Kelsey, John Belien, Bruce Pearl.
2025 Chris Beard, Steve Alford, Thad Matta, Brad Brownell, Ben McCollom, Chris Collins, Will Wade.
So we passes on Pearl, Beard, and Wade twice.
Hasn’t even coached his first game. Allow him to assemble a product.Some of you might wanna put away your keyboards.. Last we knew he wasn’t even in his office.
No kidding. Some of these posts are not going to age well.
You mean like all the “negative” posts from the last 2 decades?
I don’t think anyone has a clue how this coach will turn out. Still, if one is playing the odds, based on IU’s track record, the people that are posting very negative things may just be early, not wrong.
Either way, I always find the threads whining about people whining to be quite entertaining.
Whining, in this case, is defined by ‘bitching before there’s anything to bitch about’.
A lot of the “negative” posts over the past several years were ‘after the fact’.
What about whining about those who are whining about the whiners??
I don’t disagree with that, but optimism surrounding the hire and the direction of this program is also “before the fact”.
Still, one constant set of “facts” remains: The IU basketball program (including its admin, culture, philosophy and the big money pulling the levers) is still intact.
You're wasting your time trying to talk sense into some of the knotheads infesting the free board.
And passed on Alford 3 times……this shows how stupid your point is
Ehh, my view is if we don't want fans bitching, then let the program do something to keep it from happening. I had no clue about CDD, got excited by what I heard and read, but I think there are plenty of legit reasons to be concerned. 1) We seemingly could've had Beard and I think his personality "fit" the job better. Hard to find someone more "Knight-like" in his stature and manner, but sounds like we dismissed him out of hand. That might have been very dumb. 2) Acted quickly to get a jump on things, and well, now? Crickets. Unless you count announcing the hiring of an Asst as news. 3)Assts? NN and DA aren't exactly "head of class" types. Again, it may work, but I doubt they were on anyone's list of desired candidates. 4)Had a couple good prospects on campus with what we're told is a pile of money, well-resourced, and minutes to spare, and... again, crickets. Dix, I can understand if he didn't want to play with TD, but Conwell? IN kid at a critical position of need? That could be a really bad sign. Doesn't mean it can't all work, but I understand people's concerns and, isn't this the place to discuss that?
Seth Greenberg told Dan Dakich that CDD got everything out of those kids at W. Virginia. That says a lot to me. Let's give him some time
My understanding is Dix mom is battling cancer. Playing close to home ultimately won out. I think we understand why. All the internet all star posters have spent years celebrating the status of our recruits. Ballo, Mgbako, Reneau, Carlyle, Rice, Tucker, Ware, etc. Won the offseason and had ho hum seasons with them. Devries, I believe, will put together a much better culture and brand of basketball. Would be hard not to. Let him fill the roster, and put a product on the floor.
I know critical thinking is hard for you, but I think if you'll read my post, there's nothing that says he's not going to work out, just that I think folks who are concerned, have legit reasons, and this is a forum to discuss IU bball, good and bad. Obviously I hope it works, and have faith in SD based on the CCC hire, but I thought there would be a little more pop in the bat this early.
I acknowledged Dix may have had legit reasons, but Conwell is an IN kid at a position of need and chose to go to a program where PT might be harder to come by. Are one of his parents battling cancer in the Lville area?
My last statement on this thread, one that I've made on other threads...
Darian Devries was hired on March 18th.
Some of you must be really green around the ears, as my Dad would say. Meaning, you have no concept of being in the position that CDD is in, and you also are disregarding recent history with coaches who were in the same position. It's possible that some others are lacking the ability to process time or read a basic calendar.
Have any of you ever hired someone? How long did it take from the first contact to their first day on the job? Now, how about getting hired for a new job, then immediately tasked with finding 20 employees that 10 million people are perfectly satisfied with.
I can't make it any clearer.
Darian Devries was hired on March 18th.
Some of you must be really green around the ears, as my Dad would say. Meaning, you have no concept of being in the position that CDD is in, and you also are disregarding recent history with coaches who were in the same position. It's possible that some others are lacking the ability to process time or read a basic calendar.
Have any of you ever hired someone? How long did it take from the first contact to their first day on the job? Now, how about getting hired for a new job, then immediately tasked with finding 20 employees that 10 million people are perfectly satisfied with.
I can't make it any clearer.
Thanks. Guess time or laws are different in NC?
He's an Indiana kid... so what. 3 of his 4 choices have been outside of Indiana. He obviously doesn't care about playing in Indiana. At the time of his commitment, Indiana had exactly two players on the roster. DeVries and Sisley. With a coach just starting. It would have taken a big leap of faith to select Indiana where they are at this point over the Ville who proved last year that they are going to be successful. The kid has one last year, I am sure he wants it to be at somewhere he KNOWS will be successful. And who knows, maybe the Ville was willing to outbid.
conwell strikes me as guy who's in it strictly for the money, (4 different schools in 4 years). maybe he simply sold himself to the highest bidder.
I don't think I was necessarily speaking directly to you,just those who are negative.
His dad and family are from Louisville. Both parents I think are Purdue grads.
What's your point? I don't subscribe, could only read the first two paragraphs that Wade has his assistants in place. So does DeVries, as of two weeks ago.
I'm not so sure if you told him, you could have your pick of who's left in the portal, to fill the last 12 spots on the roster that we would have a top 25 team. that's concerning. Mich ark Louisville uk , did that last year. I don't like the fact he was an assistant for 19 years before he got his shot at drake. time will tell, I'm skeptical we got the right guy
Just start throwing money to any players like Woody did..?
Conwell is a program jumper with no loyalty to any coach or program he's committed to. Granted his coaches all left him so it's fair enough, but maybe he didn't fit in the team building aspect.
I get it, you wanted Beard, I did too.
That's not the accurate story on DeVrie's time at Creighton. He had opportunities, but didn't take them for whatever reason. Drake fit, he took it and did something no one else had done prior. Then repeated it at a P4 level last year.
Lastly, it took many of the top names more than one year to reach where they are currently. Beard didn't do it in his first year at Ole Miss, neither did Golden at Florida, neither did Williams at A&M, Pearl at Auburn, Barnes at Tenn, or Oats at Alabama.
if woody was the problem, I would have retained a few players
Geez, my six year old (daughter) doesn't whine and bellyache as much as you. Damn you are a negative Nancy personified.
What??? Woody was the problem and so were the players. Did you watch?
Part of the problem with Woodson is the players he did get. Did you ever hear Woodson talking about culture and fit like you have heard with Devries interviews? I honestly believe regardless of the roster, Devries team will be better than the individual parts. I do not know what the roster will look like. I do believe his offensive system will be much cleaner than what we have seen in terms of spacing, cutting, screening, along with some appealing actions to get guys shots. Defensively I think we see a team that is grittier and much more connected with better principles. The tape does not lie. A lot of you watched Schertz and ISU go toe to toe with him in the MVC finals. Was a solid product both put on the floor. The floor will be higher. My concern is can he recruit kids who are some combination of highly skilled and/or uber athletic. I am not throwing shade at Purdue, but that is what seperated them from being a real contender. Houston shot poorly in an offense that was stagnant. They for whatever reason did not attack Purdue enough off the bounce. What they did do was crush them on the glass, negate TKR with physicality and a number of different looks as to where tge double came from. Purdues success came from letting Braden smith drag the double on the perimeter 30 foot from the rim. It was somewhat effective for Purdue, but not nearly as impactful as Smith getting into paint area to create for himself or others from there. Purdue didnt have anyone else to go make a play. So, can Devries get a few dudes who impact the games against that brand of athlete. The types you will see this weekend. Devries is checking in deep on these guys. That high school/portal ranking does not include intangibles in most cases. (Are they a good teammate? Are they coachable? Do they make the extra pass? Do they understand and carry out aspects of the system? Do they understand the spotlight that goes along with being an Indiana player means they cant be screwing around speeding, having altercations at taco bell, or hanging out at upstairs the night before a game?) I bet Devries has a plan, and is comfortable he can assemble a team that can compete.
There were several openings at other P4 schools. None of them hired Beard, either. Apparently IU wasn’t the only one concerned about his background
If we had hired McCollum, Some would be questioning today that we should have hired DeVries?.The argument would be why did we hire the guy that inherited the program instead of the guy that built it.
Be patient this Spring and Summer. We will have a team by July.
I do think the supposed floodgates that would inject a new & improved team has not materialized.
Barring something wild happening with Mullins, and/or something even wilder happening with a Tahad Pettiford, this might be a 3-4 year rebuild rather than 1-2.
The guys we have are solid. But we still don't have a team.
Barring something wild happening with Mullins, and/or something even wilder happening with a Tahad Pettiford, this might be a 3-4 year rebuild rather than 1-2.
The guys we have are solid. But we still don't have a team.
Lot of tunnel visioned posts. Most authored by 1 keyboard artist. Won't mention his name but his initials are kurt.
