Israel under attack from Hamas
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Looks like FDR in the center, of course, and top right looks like Hamilton and continuing clockwise I'd say Jefferson, Lincoln and Washington (top left).
International Criminal Court issues arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Hamas officials
The warrant was issued to Netanyahu, his former defense minister Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes.
apnews.com
The ICC is irrevocably broken
A death toll of 44,000 in Gaza alone? I find that very hard to believe.
International Criminal Court issues arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Hamas officials
The warrant was issued to Netanyahu, his former defense minister Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes.
The ICC is irrevocably broken
2 million people crammed into a sardine can that's been at war for a year. 44K isn't hard to believe.
This is a good development.
www.theguardian.com
Joe Biden announces ceasefire deal to end fighting between Israel and Hezbollah
Benjamin Netanyahu endorses imminent ceasefire with Lebanese group after cabinet approval
I hear there is a ceasefire. Does that mean all of Hamas is dead? ..... Oh, they aren't? .... lather, rinse, repeat in 6 years, or 6 months or probably more accurate 6 hours. Shit, I'm amazed that there wasn't any rockets being fired out of Gaza, into Israel, just as I typed this message. I'm now shocked that it lasted 6 seconds.
oopsie, I should have paid closer attention. The rest is kind of interchangeable though..
Surprised they found a leader to negotiate with....
One can read books one doesn't agree with.
I wonder who will read that book to Pres. Biden?
Video is graphic....
Original video of our "allies" sawing a guy's head off while he was alive got removed. But here is more of what I am talking about.
This is only tangentially related, but I side with the Israelis for many reasons, but the main reason is that there are no good allies among the Muslim countries. We have inconvenient alliances of convenience but God do these people and their religion suck. This is the Syrian Civil War. The people saying off heads are on our "team". I don't believe in removing the strongman from these shitholes anymore because this is what ALWAYS fills the vacuum. The Asad's and Hussein's of the middle east are bad actors but maybe that is because the people they rule over are bat shit insane people following a 7th Century Pedophile Warlord who ordered them to murder everyone that doesn't exactly agree with them.
I hope when Trump takes office that this is one of the first places he withdraws funding from. Let the Russians and Bashar al-Asad have them. I don't want a fraction of a penny of my money going to any of these psychos.
Original video of our "allies" sawing a guy's head off while he was alive got removed. But here is more of what I am talking about.
This is only tangentially related, but I side with the Israelis for many reasons, but the main reason is that there are no good allies among the Muslim countries. We have inconvenient alliances of convenience but God do these people and their religion suck. This is the Syrian Civil War. The people saying off heads are on our "team". I don't believe in removing the strongman from these shitholes anymore because this is what ALWAYS fills the vacuum. The Asad's and Hussein's of the middle east are bad actors but maybe that is because the people they rule over are bat shit insane people following a 7th Century Pedophile Warlord who ordered them to murder everyone that doesn't exactly agree with them.
I hope when Trump takes office that this is one of the first places he withdraws funding from. Let the Russians and Bashar al-Asad have them. I don't want a fraction of a penny of my money going to any of these psychos.
These guys aren't our allies. And your take on Islam and Arabs in general is horribly simplistic. I do agree going in and removing dictators isn't always (ever?) a smart move, but a lot of these Islamist rebels came about as a form of resistance against rather secular autocratic governments. It doesn't have to be that way. Jordan has remained a relatively stable country since its founding, and any Islamist violence it has suffered has generally come from foreign actors.
Lebanon has a similar history. Although Lebanese factions got caught up in the civil war, the war probably doesn't even happen without the 1967 war, Palestinian refugees, and Iranian interference. Truth is, a lot of the turmoil in the Middle East is a direct result of the creation of Israel. Even if you support Israel's existence (I do), that's pretty undeniable. The various Arab-Israeli wars, and the displacement of the Palestinian population is a large part of the root of a lot of these problems.
Anyway, I think your policy take is a cogent one. It might be better to simply wash our hands of a lot of this region. But to reduce the reasons for this down to "bat shit insane people following a 7th Century Pedophile Warlord" is just ridiculously ignorant of the political complexities at play.
Jordan is run by a King (Dictator) and they rule with a relatively iron fist against these types of groups. See also: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar, Kuwait, etc.
No, that is just recency bias. These folks have been fighting each other for millenia. The Hashemites (of the aforementioned moderate Jordan) rose up against the Turks during WW1. The reality is that this area was mostly part of one Empire or another until the completion of WW2 where the European colonial powers ceded control to the local strongmen. When you remove Israel from the equation you are still left with a host of sectarian and religious differences between all of these countries whether that be intrastate or interstate relations.
That is who has almost always taken over whenever we have seen a strongman go under. We topple Hussein and end up with bat shit insane Shia, allies of Iran going up against bat shit insane Sunnis. Qadaffi was toppled and replaced with a bunch of Islamic warlords. The Houthis topple Yemen's government and they are, checks notes, bat shit insane Islamists following Muhammad. And you take issue with my description of him but he married and had "relations" with prepubescent Aisha which would make him what? A pedophile. He also was undeniably a warlord. Based on him losing his mind for about a year and a half and hearing demons, no wait maybe it was Gabriel, in the cave, I think he was nuts. A crazy guy who "hears God who told him to kill everyone that doesn't believe in his new religion" is bat shit insane. So while it isn't PC to rag on someone's religion these days, I totally stand by my description.
That being said, whether we disagree on the particulars of our reasoning, we have common ground in that I don't want to support these people anymore. All of the Middle Eastern "Freedom Fighters" end up being this way, except for maybe the Kurds and they aren't going to get anywhere because we have to kiss the ass of another Islamic dirtbag who runs Turkey......
