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Israel under attack from Hamas

This is horrible. We all agree with that. There are horrible people in the US who chant all sorts of horrible things, and laud horrible events in and at rallies and protests. That's long been established.

There seems to be a common theme of trying to slot these types of things into some left-leaning worldview. I may have missed it, but no one is defending this here. No one is saying there are 'very fine people' on both sides.
 
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This is horrible. We all agree with that. There are horrible people in the US who chant all sorts of horrible things, and laud horrible events in and at rallies and protests. That's long been established.

There seems to be a common theme of trying to slot these types of things into some left-leaning worldview. I may have missed it, but no one is defending this here. No one is saying there are 'very fine people' on both sides.
I can't watch video where I am. What was horrible? "Palestine will be free" isn't horrible. Ill-timed, for sure.
 
It’s because they don’t care and we’re broke. The goal is to maintain control for the establishment. It’s why the borders will remain wide open, for example. Who cares if it’s good or bad for Americans. They printed too much money and need the bodies. Your government hates you. George Carlin was right.
OMG you found a way to take the Israel thread crypto. @i'vegotwinners you want to chime in with something about Comcast?
 
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Sure it doesn’t. You don’t worry about dumb and senile with Trump. Biden is certainly not dumb and there’s no more sign he is senile than you or I.
God bless and keep you honey. You really have lost your mind.
 
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And, as I said, watchlist all of them and send somebody to physically visit the speaker. Those people are Dems like abortion clinic bombers and mass shooters are Republicans.
That rally was organized by a group that has 6 members representing it in Congress who ran as Democrats.


Receipts on who organized here:


They may not be Democrats you agree with, but they are unequivocally Democrats.
 
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Would an employer be in their rights to fire people found at pro-Palestinian riots? I suspect yes as their are no federal laws, someone may have state.

Would said employer be hurt in the court of public opinion? Probably not except in some enclaves.

Now I haven't seen all the footage, but yes, I think anyone cheering the deaths is very wrong. Cheering any death is problematic for me, I don't want Russian soldiers to die in Ukraine, just leave.

But any Palestinian gatherings to show concern over Palestinians being killed, that is perfectly reasonable. The sad truth of war, people are being killed who have nothing to do with anything (yes, both ways).
 
There seems to be a common theme of trying to slot these types of things into some left-leaning worldview.
Because by and large it is. Conservatives don't run around talking "colonizer" and "occupier". That is a leftist view of the world. Leftists and Nazis holding hands on this one singing kumbaya.

Y'all got a problem on your extremes as well.
 
I can't watch video where I am. What was horrible? "Palestine will be free" isn't horrible. Ill-timed, for sure.
Maybe 'ill-timed' is a better way to say it. Horribly ill-timed. That said, I don't think this was a long-planned protest that just happened to be scheduled for today. I think the 'horribly ill-timed' part was intentional.
 
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Maybe 'ill-timed' is a better way to say it. Horribly ill-timed. That said, I don't think this was a long-planned protest that just happened to be scheduled for today. I think the 'horribly ill-timed' part was intentional.
Something tells me a number of the people outraged here aren't mad about the timing. I think they are outraged by the sentiment.
 
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Good for you, but Crazy already confirmed it.
Damn right. The timing of the protest was garbage and the idea that Palestine will be completely restored is boilerplate Islamic antisemitism. Everything about that rally sucked.

ETA:

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If timing is the only issue could one of you "timing" folks let me know what time something like this is appropriate?
 
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That's just silly. Of course this still happens no matter who is president. Haven't you been paying attention? Hamas is throwing a hissy because the Arab world is starting to consider playing nice with Israel. That's a trend both Trump and Biden helped push.
That’s not close to being accurate. Hamas is not an independent actor here. The piece you are missing is Trumps Iranian policy.
 
C'mon, subtext.
Bitcoin is a technology that may or may not allow humans to have sound money and take it away power from central authorities. That has nothing to do with my point.

My point is money drives policies. The border is wide open because of our fiscal situation and demographics. They need more bodies.
 
Damn right. The timing of the protest was garbage and the idea that Palestine will be completely restored is boilerplate Islamic antisemitism. Everything about that rally sucked.

ETA:

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If timing is the only issue could one of you "timing" folks let me know what time something like this is appropriate?
It's possible that photo--particularly what's on the phone he's holding up--is doctored.

That said, the chants and signs and sentiment were pretty abhorrent.
 
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And, as I said, watchlist all of them and send somebody to physically visit the speaker.
No thanks on government intimidation for someone expressing their political views, no matter how abhorrent.

Dox them? Fine. Social pressure and solutions? Also OK. Group of people beating the piss out of them or keying their car? That would be illegal, and those who did it should be prosecuted, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it. No government, though.

The bigger, more interesting question: what should social media companies do? Shut them down? Forbid Hamas or Hamas friendly distribution of tweets that might be used to organize attacks? Used to organize sympathies? If Musk says X will take down any beheading videos from Hamas, is that OK?
 
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