Is the path cleared for traditional Republicans?
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I think that we definitely need a generational change . . . but would like to see some establishment politicians among the next generation or two before I cut and run from them.
Obama was establishment, and I'd take him in a heartbeat over any candidate on either side . . . McConnell has run against establishment politicians since day 1. The problem ain't only with the establishment politicians . . . it's with those opposed to getting anything done.
[on edit]: Here's a good start at understanding our history on this: The Destructionists https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...ican-partys-devolution-one-man-newt-gingrich/
Yeah, I know it's WaPo. It's the content that we need right now . . . .
Maybe. I am tired of establishment. AOC and the Squad have probably already figured out how to become lifer establishment politicians.
Great gig. Act like your working during the day and steaks and drinks every night.
My golf buddy’s son was an intern for both Tillerson and Sanders then an employee in the Energy Department after college. He loved the life. He went through withdrawal pains after Biden fired him immediately after inauguration. Guess Biden didn’t want a young petroleum engineer who started Cats for Trump at LSU. If they dug deeper they would have found he had some redeeming qualities. He went door to door handling out literature for Obama as a freshman at Castle in Newburgh Indiana. He had spunk. He’d argue with his dad’s Republican golf buddies.
There’s a lot to be said for this. I believe the Founders had the idea of the citizen-politician. Do your term and then go back to your real life. No career politicians.
I’d seriously consider the idea of every office being for one term. No more spending so much time grabbing the campaign dollars. No more seniority, where someone like Pelosi can force newbies to vote her way if the newbie ever hopes to have future influence and success working for his/her constituents.
Politics now seems as if it’s a career for grifters and con men and women.
Every office is for one term.
You're talking about term limits in not so many words. And you know the drill on that: great idea so long as it doesn't apply to MY congressperson.
Must have been an appointee. Career civil service don’t get fired after a change of administration, but most appointees are replaced.
Well, your congressperson might suck as much as or more than my congressman.
I’d rather give them four years and then they go home. No campaigning and whoring for dollars.
Term limits to me implies several terms, but no more than “x.” I’d rather have no one running for re-election, ever. Your retort might then be, yeah, but we’d lose some talented people. I’d then agree but counter with, yeah, but we’d get rid of a lot more clowns. We‘d also stop politics from being an enriching career.
Hilarious .. nothing strikes fear into flaccid old men like women with power. When they take power they're going to line you up then laugh at your peen ... is that what you're afraid of? "The squad" ... lmao ..........
Barry Loudermilk. He sucks dogballs.
But I keep harkening back to the days of Lee Hamilton . . . .
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I don't know. Maybe. I've written against that rhetoric on this site. I don't like it. Much like the hyperbole of the Dems w/r/t racism, fascism, etc., I think it cheapens the word, ruins our language and ability to communicate and agree, and fear it might harm real efforts to combat the real versions of those very real evils.
Maybe 1 term, and you can run after sitting out the next term? No more than 10 years total? Representatives.
Senators . . . let's see, two terms and no other reelections.
Up or out.
I'm just fascinated by their fascination and fear of AOC ... There's some underlying issues at play there. She's a two bit junior politician with very little power... What's the big deal?
I never hear about AOC from the left, only from the right ... I don't even know who the members of "the squad" are .. I just know if they take power, bad things (pointing and laughing) will happen ..
Is it traditional politicians who have been in office too long who are failing us, or is it the lack of compromise in a divided country which has slowly taken over in the past few decades.
This article makes a case for the lack of compromise and in part states the following....
It is not difficult to identify “lost arts”—things we used to do but do not do any longer—in Washington, DC: civility, bipartisanship, courage, just to name a few. But one lost art underlies the others and has led to the inability of Congress to carry out its most basic responsibilities--pass a budget or keep the government open. The most fundamental lost art of all is the lost art of compromise.
Maybe they think she's hot and will bamboozle them with her womanly wiles . . . .
Okay. That’s a start.
Just saw Gary Sanchez, Twins, he of the .213 BA, stand at home plate and admire his 470-ft HR. He’s getting drilled next time up. Allowing this is what a representative government should be doing . . .
This post, and the quote you provided, remind me of the book review I cited in an earlier post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...ican-partys-devolution-one-man-newt-gingrich/
Newt came of age as a politician at about the same time McConnell rose to become leader of Senate Republicans. Hmmmm . . . .
You could throw Pelosi and Schumer in that mix as well as a bunch of other old farts from both sides.
They’re too busy dining with the lobbyists to notice or care.
I'm waiting on the "both sides" part of your post before I like or agree to anything.
Names . . . or else.
How long did it take to find a picture of the skinniest Purdue cheerleader?Ehhh, I’d rather violate the new Abercrombie and Fitch girl.
Just balancing out Gingrich and McConnell. But I’ll throw Grassley in there.
There's no accounting for taste . . . you do you . . . .Ehhh, I’d rather violate the new Abercrombie and Fitch girl.
I got roasted by the Right/JDB for posting that Boebert was not hot at all, so get ready.Ehhh, I’d rather violate the new Abercrombie and Fitch girl.
(BTW, you're full of shit.)
Gingrich ain't in office . . . but I get where you're going. In the spirit of compromise, OK . . . .
BTW, in the world according to Univee2, is there some law that would/could/should prohibit consultants like McConnell/Schumer/Grassley/Pelosi from engaging with the new versions of those folks? Otherwise, we'd have Gingrich and McConnell dueling it out with Schumer and Pelosi behind the scenes.
Nah, it's much better to keep electing the Party guys and gals and make sure no one loses their comfy government job while they're ripping off the taxpayers and committing crimes against one Party, while the other Party lays back and enjoys it.
Then, after they've got their government pension, they can cash in as consultants in industries related to the government. Right, Aloha?
Who would want to upset that applecart?
I don't think he's head and shoulders above other politicians except in actual governance. At least current politicians.
Trump's human and has issues like every human. Big deal. He made questionable business deals - what multi-millionaire doesn't?
People can point at Trump and say "Look at his faults!" while ignoring others' of the same or worse transgressions.
I think it's pretty obvious he's not a 'typical politician', so that's not really a revelation, is it? Is Fetterman a typical politician? Doesn't he lead Oz in the polls?
Reminds me of my wife 10 years ago before her weight confined her to the bedroom.I got roasted by the Right/JDB for posting that Boebert was not hot at all, so get ready.
(BTW, you're full of shit.)
I do find AOC attractive(I bet she has great nipples) and I’m hoping for a sex tape at some point, but she seems like she’d never shut up.
Once you earn your stripes, in the DC Bloods and/ or DC Crips, the parties protect "you" like a Sicilian crime family. Any possible opponents are.... given reason to stand down (but "appear" for the look of legitimacy) .
Family doesn't shit on Family. Welcome to DC.
I'm not a consultant. I'm still doing leadership and management, but I'll be looking at retiring-retiring soon after August of next year. Probably within a year of that.
Hopefully the stock market will be back up by then. I mean, after the Inflation Reduction Act really kicks in.
I didn't mean you, necessarily, but I"m sure you know plenty of government retirees who then go on to consult for defense-related industries.
Ironic part of your reply is trying insult me by saying I can't read when you have had to apologize to me multiple times because your failed reading comprehension.
At $174,000 per year a U.S. Congressman does make several times the income of the average person he represents among his 700,000 constituents.
Most of those 700,000 are eligible by law to run against their Congressman. The reality of a person successfully doing this isn't promising. For starters a person with an impressive resume and the skills necessary could very well be earning more with an even better financial future. Also running for office takes a special skill set which includes the ability to speak and build confidence both in front of a crowd and in face to face encounters.
Another critical component to winning is to share the ideology and party affiliation of the party with the majority of his district.
Finally, running for office, especially the first attempt unless the candidate is a celebrity, rich, or in someway well known is hard work and unlikely to succeed.
Bottom line for me, whether I like a politician or not, down deep I have some respect for them. Glad it is them and not me in their shoes.
Working hard to get elected does not entitle them to fleece the public. It's expensive to live in Washington - I don't know of any politician who comes out of office without a huge increase in their wealth. I'm sure there must be a few, but I don't know of any.
Finally squared.... They have to have that invisible DC tear drop tattooed under their left eye, proving elegance to DC. Once you have that Invisible DC Tat, you are a made Politician. And don't think that there are actually two gangs... There is not!
Wait - are we believing Bill Barr now or is he a still Trump's puppet?
I'm getting whiplash....
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