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I thought the FBI was tainted and in need of being defunded. Or is that dependent on who they happen to be investigating?
Is Clarence Thomas in trouble?
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I thought the FBI was tainted and in need of being defunded. Or is that dependent on who they happen to be investigating?
Was listening to a pod recently and the person speaking (Strict Scrutiny, lefty SC pod) believed the leak was meant solely to cage Kavanaugh and prevent him from changing his vote and the text remained relatively unchanged. Negotiations were killed with the leak.
That was the point of the leak.
My preferred pod (Hacks on Tap with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy...a dem and an 'Aloha' pub) believed the same but it was to trap Roberts who was supposedly known to be softer on abortion.
The theory was they had him committed so by leaking it meant he'd have to alter his commitment publicly.
I have to admit, it's the only reason for the leak that sounds remotely plausible. It would also explain why Roberts didn't find the culprit (wink-wink). It would be one thing to fire a clerk; it would be another entirely to out a justice.
I've never bought that theory and always thought the opposite was much more likely. I think one of the liberal Justice clerks leaked it to generate public pressure on the conservative Justices in hope one would flip to their side.
That just doesn't make sense to me. As Tommy alluded to above, the leak was of a draft majority opinion. So if someone changed votes, everyone would know they changed their vote. If it came out 5-4 keeping Roe, and Kavanaugh voted to keep Roe, fine, whatever. He betrayed the people who picked him, but then so did the guy he replaced, multiple times. But after it was leaked that overturning Roe had a majority, if he then voted the other way, it would be known he changed his vote under pressure. I don't think that would work. I think any thinking person would know that leaking that draft would solidify the votes, not lead to a defection.
Now, you might come back and say, "Yeah, but they were desperate, so they made a bad decision because no good decisions were left available." To that, I say, "Sure, that's possible."
Roberts wasn't signed on to the majority. So if it was intended to keep a reluctant joiner, it had to be Kavanaugh.
The 2% are undecideds like the twelve people they kept polling on Trump v Biden in 2020
Of course it was Alito. He'd been waiting for that moment his entire career. Dobbs is what will keep his name in the history books for generations. He wasn't going to let the little weasel drunk block his date with destiny.
It's funny, because your theory makes little sense to me. The draft opinions are circulated among all the justices and clerks so they all had access to it. I think that any thinking person would know that leaking the draft could lead to a defection. It was only a draft and many "thinking persons" agree with me, by they way. And yes, I do think liberal desperation WAS a factor. An obvious one in my opinion.
I think you admitting you think desperation was a factor is a tell that you actually kind of agree with me.
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What about the notion that a liberal clerk might have wanted the left to unite earlier around the overturning of Roe, leading to better political organization and longer period in which to fundraise?
We don't know who leaked it or why. I think having any kind of certainty now about answers to those questions is unwarranted.
But I think it is important to figure it out and punish the leaker. If it were a Justice, I'd move to impeach (the public embarrassment alone would send a signal). If it were a clerk, I'd try to get them disbarred. Again, it was a blow to the public perception of the Supreme Court and a blow to people's belief in the legitimacy of the Court. We can't keep doing these things (hello, Justice Thomas!) and not expect it to blow up in our collective faces at some point.
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(Psssst…look around. The WC is the Land of Certainty. Opinion = Fact around here.)
It was leaked as part of the culture war to rally the Loony Left against allegedly GOP-partisan justices and GOP candidates who reject abortion on demand.
From their report in January: “has to date been unable to identify a person responsible by a preponderance of the evidence.”
US supreme court says it has not determined who leaked Dobbs draft
Court releases report on eight-month investigation into May 2022 leak of draft opinion that overturned Roe v Wade
Tell that to the Supreme Court judges who all had the same epiphany about Roe versus Wade.
Hey, he's not running for President. Isn't that why you guys don't give a shit how corrupt Hunter is?
All anyone has is theories since nothing has been uncovered by the deep state right?
It appears things are getting worse for Justice Thomas. This one does appear to violate a rule.
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Harlan Crow Bought Property from Clarence Thomas. The Justice Didn’t Disclose the Deal. — ProPublica
The transaction is the first known instance of money flowing from Crow to the Supreme Court justice. The sale netted the GOP megadonor two vacant lots and the house where Thomas’ mother was living.
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They might have him on something here.It appears things are getting worse for Justice Thomas. This one does appear to violate a rule.
Harlan Crow Bought Property from Clarence Thomas. The Justice Didn’t Disclose the Deal. — ProPublica
The transaction is the first known instance of money flowing from Crow to the Supreme Court justice. The sale netted the GOP megadonor two vacant lots and the house where Thomas’ mother was living.
So what? There are no consequences.
While it may be a technical violation while the vacations may not be, the vacations and jet travel are more problematic to me. This looks like a straight up business transaction; the luxury trips are lavish gifts.
It’s part of a pattern that is at best extremely poor judgment, lack of integrity, and the appearance of impropriety. The fact that this transaction also involves Crow stinks on high.
Let's have the Delaware Special Counsel investigate this.It appears things are getting worse for Justice Thomas. This one does appear to violate a rule.
Harlan Crow Bought Property from Clarence Thomas. The Justice Didn’t Disclose the Deal. — ProPublica
The transaction is the first known instance of money flowing from Crow to the Supreme Court justice. The sale netted the GOP megadonor two vacant lots and the house where Thomas’ mother was living.
Neither does he. There's no "Special Counsel" investigating Hunter Biden. The US Attorney for the District of Delaware is doing that. Garland appointed a special counsel to investigate the classified documents case involving Joe.
Thomas was quick to parse the text of the ethical guidelines when it served to allow him to accept the vacations and air travel without reporting. He's been notably silent about violating the black letter text of the guidelines that this real estate deal amounts to.
