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And now intel is suggesting the bombs didn't do what they were intended to do... do I believe Trump? Or the reports of the Intel? Hmmm???

Obviously doesn't matter. The truth, and then how everyone responds to the truth, are what matters. I seriously question that Trump allows truths, when they're in opposition to his intentions, to enter in to his tent though.

 
Ehh... kinda. The trajectory of rising health care costs, has been made in to a less steep hill most of us are on, since ACA. Very few saw their increase trajectory get more steep, compared to historical trends leading up to ACA.
Why do you think adding 30 million uninsurable people to healthcare lowered the costs for the people already paying for healthcare? The companies didn't eat the extra cost. Who do you think paid for it?

 
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Why do you think adding 30 million uninsurable people to healthcare lowered the costs for the people already paying for healthcare? The companies didn't eat the extra cost. Who do you think paid for it?

My premiums went from $0 to $8,000 per year. $250,000 over 30 years just for premiums. That doesn’t count the increase in deductibles and co-pays. I wonder if Congress opted out?
 
Why do you think adding 30 million uninsurable people to healthcare lowered the costs for the people already paying for healthcare? The companies didn't eat the extra cost. Who do you think paid for it?

That's a shit graph. It takes as the "pre-ACA" trend as the trend before the ACA became law, and not the trend before it was implemented four years later. It therefore assumes that the huge jump in costs between 2010 and 2014 should be blamed entirely on the ACA. Because if you set the "pre-ACA" trend as ending in 2014, then the costs are far below trend since then. This decision to end the trend in either 2010 or 2014 therefore dramatically shifts the narrative.

I have no idea what caused that jump in those four years. Do you?
 
That's a shit graph. It takes as the "pre-ACA" trend as the trend before the ACA became law, and not the trend before it was implemented four years later. It therefore assumes that the huge jump in costs between 2010 and 2014 should be blamed entirely on the ACA. Because if you set the "pre-ACA" trend as ending in 2014, then the costs are far below trend since then. This decision to end the trend in either 2010 or 2014 therefore dramatically shifts the narrative.

I have no idea what caused that jump in those four years. Do you?
Insurance companies getting ahead of the game. Imagine a requirement causing this issue. College loan structure and tuition costs….hmmm
 
That's a shit graph. It takes as the "pre-ACA" trend as the trend before the ACA became law, and not the trend before it was implemented four years later. It therefore assumes that the huge jump in costs between 2010 and 2014 should be blamed entirely on the ACA. Because if you set the "pre-ACA" trend as ending in 2014, then the costs are far below trend since then. This decision to end the trend in either 2010 or 2014 therefore dramatically shifts the narrative.

I have no idea what caused that jump in those four years. Do you?
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ACA caused it.
 
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Why do you think adding 30 million uninsurable people to healthcare lowered the costs for the people already paying for healthcare? The companies didn't eat the extra cost. Who do you think paid for it?

Another important question: Are "Household Consumer Units" all American households, even the ones who were previously uncovered? Because if so, it would only make sense for spending per household to increase dramatically as coverage is also increased. In other words, saying that I pay more for health insurance now than I did before when I was uninsured isn't very meaningful.
 
And now intel is suggesting the bombs didn't do what they were intended to do... do I believe Trump? Or the reports of the Intel? Hmmm???

Obviously doesn't matter. The truth, and then how everyone responds to the truth, are what matters. I seriously question that Trump allows truths, when they're in opposition to his intentions, to enter in to his tent though.
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle like it always is. Of course trump will say it was the greatest attack in history and of course the liberal media will snatch any signal that it was more ineffective to shame trump. Don’t fall for the nonsense. Only a handful of people sitting in Langley and our Middle East stations really know the truth.
 
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle like it always is. Of course trump will say it was the greatest attack in history and of course the liberal media will snatch any signal that it was more ineffective to shame trump. Don’t fall for the nonsense. Only a handful of people sitting in Langley and our Middle East stations really know the truth.
The real question for me is why do the democrats need to shame our military that they didn’t get done everything that was promised? They are potentially harming our country not Trump.
 
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The real question for me is why do the democrats need to shame our military that they didn’t get done everything that was promised? They are potentially harming our country not Trump.
Seriously? Getting to the truth is shaming our military? I guess I don't understand that thinking.

I agree with the orders Trump gave, but not sure why we have to blindly take his word at complete and total devastation.
 
No one is shaming the military. The military isn't who is making the inflated claims.

We don’t know they’re inflated. I mean we can be relatively sure that anything Trump says is inflated but we don’t know they’re full truth.

Part of me likes to think that saying we didn’t do as much damage as we’d have liked simply opens the door and signals that they’re likely to get more ordnance dropped on them unless they come to their senses ASAP.
 
The real question for me is why do the democrats need to shame our military that they didn’t get done everything that was promised? They are potentially harming our country not Trump.
I don’t know how that’s shaming the military. The military only attacks the target set they are given by intel. If the hits were ineffective, it’s an intel failure - not a military failure.
 
We don’t know they’re inflated. I mean we can be relatively sure that anything Trump says is inflated but we don’t know they’re full truth.

Part of me likes to think that saying we didn’t do as much damage as we’d have liked simply opens the door and signals that they’re likely to get more ordnance dropped on them unless they come to their senses ASAP.
Let's hope so.
 
I don’t know how that’s shaming the military. The military only attacks the target set they are given by intel. If the hits were ineffective, it’s an intel failure - not a military failure.

"You're shaming the military!!!" is the latest MAGA talking point. stoll is just doing his part to spread the word.
 
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"You're shaming the military!!!" is the latest MAGA talking point. stoll is just doing his part to spread the word.
Gas lighting, co-opting words and phrases, and goal post moving are where MAGA excels. It's truly extraordinary.

No one is shaming the military. No one would even be talking about the Pentagons release today if President dip shit hadn't doubled down on his bullshit.
 
Gas lighting, co-opting words and phrases, and goal post moving are where MAGA excels. It's truly extraordinary.

No one is shaming the military. No one would even be talking about the Pentagons release today if President dip shit hadn't doubled down on his bullshit.
What was he told & by who?
 
I don’t know how that’s shaming the military. The military only attacks the target set they are given by intel. If the hits were ineffective, it’s an intel failure - not a military failure.
I’ve seen no one at all shaming the military. It appears that the mission was well executed and the targets that were provided them were hit. Bravo Zulu for that. We won’t know the full extent of the damage. BDAs take time. I know you know that as well as I do, but some were getting ahead of their skis.
 
The reality is that there are 17 different Intel agencies that compile their own assessments along with the added shared Intelligence received from the Israelis...

There's a snap assessment (as in we hit the target) and an in depth assessment (as in All the agencies submit their assessments graded by High to Low level of confidence...and then complie a Final Assement based on the information currently at hand).....

The DIA assement has been reported to be of a Low level of confidence and literally no other Intel agency seems to concur with it...

So do you go with the 16 other agencies and the Israelis (who have both close in drones and also reportedly "boots on the ground") of do you go with an assessment from DIA that clearly was leaked Before the actual Intelligence Final Assessment had been reached and produced...?

Basically, anyone buying the DIA product as the authoritative Final word on the matter is a fool..., which explains why CNN swallowed it hook, line, and sinker... (they're not the brightest bulbs in their makeup mirrors)....
 
The reality is that there are 17 different Intel agencies that compile their own assessments along with the added shared Intelligence received from the Israelis...

There's a snap assessment (as in we hit the target) and an in depth assessment (as in All the agencies submit their assessments graded by High to Low level of confidence...and then complie a Final Assement based on the information currently at hand).....

The DIA assement has been reported to be of a Low level of confidence and literally no other Intel agency seems to concur with it...

So do you go with the 16 other agencies and the Israelis (who have both close in drones and also reportedly "boots on the ground") of do you go with an assessment from DIA that clearly was leaked Before the actual Intelligence Final Assessment had been reached and produced...?

Basically, anyone buying the DIA product as the authoritative Final word on the matter is a fool..., which explains why CNN swallowed it hook, line, and sinker... (they're not the brightest bulbs in their makeup mirrors)....

So what are these other 16 agencies saying, since you seem to be so plugged in?
 
Gas lighting, co-opting words and phrases, and goal post moving are where MAGA excels. It's truly extraordinary.

No one is shaming the military. No one would even be talking about the Pentagons release today if President dip shit hadn't doubled down on his bullshit.
Bullshit. Half of the democrat base exists out of pure gaslighting. Telling African Americans that the GOP is racist and sexist, etc is pure gaslighting. So stuff it.
 
Could also be a vendor failure, i.e., that the effectiveness of the bomb was oversold.
Maybe. In reality this is why SMU boots on the ground is the only way to know for sure. It’s why they chose to go with Task Force Blue over dropping bombs on Bin Laden.

It’s not hard to imagine that the Iranians built these labs / facilities in a way that would protect it from any conventional weapon we have.

Were probably not far off from planning an op that inserts a couple of TF Blue or TF Green squadrons into each facility with the entire freaking Air Force above threatening to destroy anything that comes within 20 miles of the site while our boys make sure those facilities don’t work anymore.
 
So what are these other 16 agencies saying, since you seem to be so plugged in?

You'll get the unclassified version the same time everyone else does...: when Rubio and Hegseth return from the Netherlands and report to Congress...

If I told you I'd have to kill you and then a fate worse than death would befall me... 🍺🇺🇸🍺

Pro tip: Try expanding your news feed...
 
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You'll get the unclassified version the same time everyone else does...: when Rubio and Hegseth return from the Netherlands and report to Congress...

If I told you I'd have to kill you and then a fate worse than death would befall me... 🍺🇺🇸🍺

Pro tip: Try expanding your news feed...
So when you imply that the DIA report is an outlier, you're just juvin'?
 
So when you imply that the DIA report is an outlier, you're just juvin'?


I always had you bracketed as a partisan hack but I never had any indication you were a stupid partisan hack until now...

Once again..., try expanding your news feeds...

EDIT: I actually don't believe you're stupid but in this case you're putting on a great act to that effect...
 
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