That’s fair. Part of the reason I’m not pissed is that I don’t know what went on behind the scenes. Could be that my 1st choice, BM, was legitimately unimpressive during the vetting process.
Indiana will hire DeVries……
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After the Initial depression wears off, most people tend to look at the bright side. A very human way of coping.
We saw it with Kentucky last year. Expectations higher than Mark Pope were pie in the sky. If DeVries gets us back on track restoring Indiana's name by winning big games and making tournaments that will be exactly what the doctor ordered. At that point we can try to swing our dick around and grab an Otz or McCasland
Just finished reading a lot of good pieces about Devries from last year's WVU hire.
Said to be a strong recruiter. Good! Says that his teams compete. Good!
Plus, one of the few hires that makes sense, he come in totally familiar with the Indiana landscape of being on the tourney bubble and getting snubbed.
Snark aside, I'm hopeful. He sure doesn't look like he sucks. I think McCollum is going to be really good. Hope Devries is better.
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Said to be a strong recruiter. Good! Says that his teams compete. Good!
Plus, one of the few hires that makes sense, he come in totally familiar with the Indiana landscape of being on the tourney bubble and getting snubbed.
Snark aside, I'm hopeful. He sure doesn't look like he sucks. I think McCollum is going to be really good. Hope Devries is better.
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Why do you think that? We haven’t won shit in decades. How many sweet 16s over the last 15 years? We’ve gone through like 7 coaches since RMK. I like the hire… we could have done much worse.
Now that the shock has worn off, I am beginning to change my mind. Tutored under Altman and McDermott. Increased wins every year at Drake with 3 trips to the dance. Turned WV around in year one. Has three 4 stars coming in and his son 2 time conference POY. Perhaps he can bring with him. Plays D and they hustle. Keep a few of our guys, bring his recruits, get some signings to change their minds, hit the portal hard, keep our recruits. I think we might be a tournament team next year. I am becoming somewhat optimistic.
If he brings the top 2-3 WVU guys along with DeVries…he’d be poised at that to have the best team IU has had since 2016. DeVries, Harris, Hansberry, and Powell…along with Sisley and Zyrno… that’s probably a solid NCAA team…
Start adding starter level portal kids that DeVries thinks fits his program, and the floor continues to rise.
UK fan here lurking. We thought when Cal left that we were going to hire someone like Scott Drew, but when Pope was announced, we freaked out. He only had a few weeks to throw a team together and despite having some success at BYU, he still hadn’t won am NCAAT game. But, despite endless injuries, we earned a 3-seed and most of us thought we’d be lucky to make th tournament. UofL made a similar hire and it’s worked great. It doesn’t matter where Pope, Kelsey or DeVries coached before, if they have a great season at UK, IU or UofL, theirs and the schools standing become great again. DeVries had lots of terrific seasons at Drake, good hire, see you guys in Rupp - glad the IU-UK series is back, I used to go to them in the old Hoosier Dome and Freedom Hall, so fun.
Not doom and gloom. Just realistic. This guy may be great. Odds are unlikely. Ceiling is higher than it ever was with Woody from day 1, so guess we've got that going for us. And we bested mighty Iowa to get him.
SD not waiting until the NCAAT was over shows he didn't think he could close on NCAAT coaches.
According to the 'insiders' at btown banners..... Stevens was committed for the last month and just backed out this past weekend and Scott panicked.
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This is a well written article. It is behind a paywall but there is an excerpt from the free part of it that breaks down this situation well. It basically says this
There is basically enough NIL money for IU basketball that the reason a recruit or transfer does not choose IU will never be because the bag of money isn’t big enough
Devries should be able to get whoever he wants as long as they want to play for him
As long as he’s a decent coach we should see a significant change in reislts
"Odds are unlikely"
Huh? The man has a very good resume. 'Odds are more likely' ... Or 'odds are certainly no worse then other top candidates' , at worst.
And as some commentators I saw noted, the fact that Devries appears to have squashed the Iowa talk quickly, meant that he and Dolson already had a significant connection going and Indiana was the job on his radar. Which is nice.
No way was this a 'settle for' hire. Scott got his guy or one of his handful of guys for sure that he identified early.
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Or they already communicated through back channels that they were not interested. Or for some, they were not squeaky-clean enough.
ABC: always be closing. If Scott can't close, try fundraising.
By hiring him now, DD can get a jump on the portal, convince WV recruits to follow, convince our squad to stay and perhaps change some signings to rethink their commitments. Get a solid staff lined up as well.
Haven’t spent much time on this board, but surprised so many dislike this hire. I think it’s the best hire since Sampson, as far as coaching goes. This guy has been very successful, and if you look at the McDermott tree, a lot of talent learned from him. Not many coaches I would rather have that aren’t entrenched somewhere. Those thinking Brad was walking through that door are moronic. Same with Pitino, Beard or Wade. Non-starters.
JFC - Be happy that Woodson is gone and we have an actual coach coming. I think he could be very good! But we will know in a couple years. Enjoy the ride instead of bitching all the time. Been enough of that the last two years!
JFC - Be happy that Woodson is gone and we have an actual coach coming. I think he could be very good! But we will know in a couple years. Enjoy the ride instead of bitching all the time. Been enough of that the last two years!
It’s the bar we have to ourselves. Not going to research the whole NCAA for the last 20 years.
I never heard his name to iu til yesterday but I would pick him over mccullum just because of experience. It may bite us but mccullum just did not have the d1 experience yet. In two years could have been different
In a charity event where Tennessee couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. IU was 0-11 on 3 pointers. They were 3 of 20.
And just to highlight how it eventually transpired in the grand scheme of things, IU went on to shoot terribly throughout the year and, lo and behold, Tennessee improved.
Imagine that?
I wouldn’t knock Iowa right now. We are 4-6 in our last 10 matchups.
I don't know that he will, hard to fault a kid for picking the 2X NC, who is trying to make it 3. But, I'm confident DD will contact both he and Haralson and it won't surprise me if one of them flips. He's on board ahead of everyone other coach and has a big NIL bag to play with. I think we'll see a lot of pieces fall pretty quickly and I'd guess he'll meet with every player we have while in Btown and will get some to stay. I also think he'll get 1-2 of his WVU commits to come, and probably a player or 2. Next year? I'd guess top 4 in conference and a winning record in conference and a solid tourney bid.
I think the committee actually did us a big favor, because if they'd put WVU in, things would've had to wait at least a week. Now SD got the guy he wanted (minus the top tier guys and Wade/Beard) with at least a week jump on all the other programs hiring a new coach.
Our new coach actually values shooting and Hurley, if he is telling the truth, said half his team will be in the portal...
I understand, but I wouldn't put too much on 1 kid, who made a good choice and also has 7 months of selling himself on UConn. I am confident DD will reach out to both he and JH, whether they listen or not, is not in his control.
