For Pete’s sake. The immunity decision is pretty much the same for everyone from county commissioners to federal judges.This avowed lefty is usually not all that alarmist, but this decision has him wound up.
Don’t Believe John Roberts. The Supreme Court Just Made the President a King.
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This is the 70th time, give or take, that you’ve declared that this case or that one is over and has to be dismissed. You look desperate. It’s as if Trump is your father or girlfriend.
The alleged false record occurred when he was POTUS. He signed the checks in the WH.
I'm pretty sure, for example, if congressmen passed a law that allowed Seal Team 6 to murder political opponents, they could not be criminally charged for drafting and voting for that law, because of legislative immunity.
Well, if you’ve listened to leftist nuttery today, Biden is now a king, with absolute immunity and will be announcing an invasion of Mar a Lago, with the intent to level it.
Hard to lose something you never had.
Which is as it should be. Legislative immunity is a good thing, because our representatives should not fear repercussions for debating and enacting laws. But legislative action and executive action are not analogous, and there's very likely a reason the founders enshrined some level of legislative immunity into the text of the Constitution, while doing no such thing for the President.
Also, as long as we're talking about a hypothetical world in which the President decides to use his new immunity in the worst possible way...do you really expect Congress to vote on the record to impeach and remove a President who has already shown his willingness to use military assets to eliminate political rivals?
Right.
Eh? I don’t get the point.
It wouldn't happen in our country, Goat. The people carrying out his orders would be subject to murder trials in a court martial. And they'd know it. If we reach the point where they wouldn't know it or we have a society that produces soldiers who would follow their president's blatantly illegal orders in such a way, we have much bigger problems--i.e. a society that can't sustain a democratic republic anyway.
The article you were responding to said in the opening paragraph that the President was now put on such a higher plane than Congress because his immunity was so much more powerful. I'm pointing out that's not true w/r/t the egregious example being discussed.
And ultimately, that's more important, because it's not really the text of the Constitution, but the strength of the resolve of the people to submit to the rule of law, that protects democracy. Still, if the latter were to ever erode, the most likely place to start would probably be by eroding the former.
As I mentioned above, I think the qualitative difference between legislative action and executive action does, in fact, make this immunity much more powerful.
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Looks like Canada’s going to have new residents. We can only hope!
I find it hilarious after being wrong on every single one of these law fare cases for 8 years you think this one will turn out different.
I think it's actually stronger than we give it credit. Most of the way we act has nothing to do with formal law.
I don’t think “powerful” is the right word. Executive immunity will be more comprehensive simply because the executive department make more final decisions than the legislative department.
No. Each case will be heavily factual intensive. I think the definition is pretty well established.
If official acts receive immunity and you pay me to give you a pardon, where is there room to charge? You might be charged, but it appears I could not.
Accepting a bribe is not an official act.
President’s PAC gets a $500,000 campaign contribution and the next day he pardons the donor. Pardon is an official act and SCOTUS says you can’t consider the President’s motives.
But the pardon is.
A bribe generally requires proof of a quid pro quo, but SCOTUS says you cannot look at President’s motives in performing an official act.
If you wanna cite DBM’s legion of twitter people I’m outta here.
