which is unlikely but not impossible with 2/3 at home and IL would be a good road win. It sets us up to win 2 in BTT and maybe win 19 and on the bubble on a hot streak. Losing conference record doesn't bode well, if we close out and beat MSU again, plus at least one BTT win … a case could be made
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If you're going to be pedantic about it, it would actually mean winning the national championship. You and I both understood that the regular season is what was being referred to.
Win the BTT. Eliminate any chances of not making the dance.
I honestly think that at least making it to the BTT championship game is the only way they make the NCAA tournament. And even then I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't make it. They have some good wins but I think that losing streak would be hard for the committee to ignore, especially with less than 20 wins.
My wife saw someone comment or she saw an article this morning that we have no bad losses and I believe 6 good wins. Beating MSU again would be another good win.
19 wins and a winning streak would indicate we have cured our problems, but we would still have 15 losses. Playing like an NCAA team isn't enough to get us in the tournament. We have nothing to worry about if we end the season with 14 losses.
I know what he meant but ‘words mean things’. ‘Just say what you mean’ is the best policy of posting.
Thx for your reply.
Current ESPN bracketology shows Ohio St the last of 7 B1G teams in. We would have to win our remaining 3 conference games and it would still require a lot of bad things happening to the at least 8-12 teams that appear to be ahead of us in order to expand the number of B1G teams getting in. I'm no bracket expert but this looks all but over to me.
One game season. Win the next one. No exceptions.
Would chances also be impacted by upsets in conference tournament championship games?
I, too, think we have to get to the BTT final on Sunday PLUS winning next 3 regular season games. Now 14-14, we are sitting at a solid 12 seed in BTT. Win the next 3 gets us to conf record of 8-12 and probably an 8 or 9 seed so we wouldn't play until Thursday in BTT. Win that game takes us to 18-14 and then a game against another ranked team. Have to win that one, 19-14. That might do it (finish 19-15), but I think a guaranteed slot if we win the Saturday game (20 wins). Don't really want to run into Minny or Mich because I think those are proven bad match-ups, but otherwise we can play with any of the rest. As they say, "we'll see." Starts on Saturday at the "Hall of Calls," and another must-win.
Winning a couple games and playing well in the NIT is the only circumastance outside of an auto bid.
One at a time, but staying above 0.500 and getting to the NIT is still a goal for this team to achieve at this point.
I remember the disappointing 85 team that lost in the NIT final to UcLA. But a lot of those guys were still around 2 years later during the championship run.
Good things can come from finishing strong, taking what is offerred and making the best of it. Probably good advice for all of us.
One at a time, but staying above 0.500 and getting to the NIT is still a goal for this team to achieve at this point.
I remember the disappointing 85 team that lost in the NIT final to UcLA. But a lot of those guys were still around 2 years later during the championship run.
Good things can come from finishing strong, taking what is offerred and making the best of it. Probably good advice for all of us.
Would take nearly a miracle for IU to get in the Dance. Would need to win the Big 10 tourney. Could happen but seriously?
Or, it may help IU's case.
If IU finishes with 19 wins, it would show that IU was playing well prior to Christmas and that multiple long-lasting injuries, including losing a prize recruit for the entire season, led to the losing streak. And, once the team was healthy, it regained its winning ways.
I want a strong finish. After waiting all season, we see a hint of what having Race all year would have meant. We are seeing the benefits of Davis being healthy. All of our pieces except Hunter are available. I want to see what our team could have been. If that is a NIT appearance, let's win the thing.
Let's first beat MSU. They are now also without Ward that hurt us last game. They have to play without Ward against our new front line rotation with Davis, Morgan and Thompson. Instead of thinking it will be easier, let's go for the knockout early and often.
It ain't happening, and I think the Illinois game will officially eliminate us but the consensus of the bracketologist seem to be...
Win the next 3 (MSU, Illinois and Rutgers) gets us back on the bubble.
Win one in the BTT puts us on the good side of the bubble.
Win 2 in the BTT most likely puts us in something like the play in game.
The tournament has never taken a team with more than 15 losses as an at large, but they have taken a 15 loss team.
The tournament has never taken a team that was less than 2 games over .500 as an at large.
So it would he a very rare thing.
However there was a popular tweet last night that said 13 teams have 6 quad 1 wins and 12 are very securely in the tournament....the other is us.
So we have the wins.
Makes those circus three's from Jackson, Cline and Bohannon (twice) really sting right now.
Win the next 3 (MSU, Illinois and Rutgers) gets us back on the bubble.
Win one in the BTT puts us on the good side of the bubble.
Win 2 in the BTT most likely puts us in something like the play in game.
The tournament has never taken a team with more than 15 losses as an at large, but they have taken a 15 loss team.
The tournament has never taken a team that was less than 2 games over .500 as an at large.
So it would he a very rare thing.
However there was a popular tweet last night that said 13 teams have 6 quad 1 wins and 12 are very securely in the tournament....the other is us.
So we have the wins.
Makes those circus three's from Jackson, Cline and Bohannon (twice) really sting right now.
BTT is like the IHSAA Sectional where everybody starts over regardless of season success. The regular season is there just to improve, experiment, and prepare you for the end of season tournament. Win or go home. My HS team had a sub .500 record got hot at the end of the season and won the sectional and regional. That was with the knowlege of everything during the season was done to prepare for post season success. Including some losses where underclassmen were given a chance to play and make mistakes to improve and be major contributors by the end of the season. Also, upper classmen needed to selflessly sacrifice playing time for the betterment of the overall team. Something that is not as easy to accept it seems in 2019 as in the past.
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Likely will have to win four games in the BTT to make it imo We really screwed ourselves losing three games we should have won in the last few weeks. Win even two of those and things look much different.
Winning the BTT is very unlikely given our history in it. Plus every game we play is close and winning four straight close ones is not likely. I think we are headed to the NIT but I guess it is better than nothing.
Better than last year but not what we expected. I don't think we're in but I'd love to see us rock the BTT.
If we win the BTT I'll be even more pissed off, that somehow Archie allowed this team to completely get the shit kicked out of it for the better part of two months.
the only way combined with winning the btt. winning the btt is the only way. funny how winning one game makes people think about going to the dance. not this year, my friends
If you get mad because we win the BTT, then you are stupid.
It is so simple. Archie should have said "I forbid you to lose!"
Archie allowed it to happen? Nobody was more concerned or worked harder to get the team turned around. There must be a lot of fans that have never played on a school team
Supposedly Tarvik has an interactive tourney % thing on his site and from what I saw posted...
We win out plus win one game in the BTT and we have a 65% chance of making the tournament.
If we lose to MSU it drops to 18%.
If we beat MSU and lose to Illinois it drops to 40%.
So we really need to beat MSU in the early game Saturday to even begin to fathom it.
We win out plus win one game in the BTT and we have a 65% chance of making the tournament.
If we lose to MSU it drops to 18%.
If we beat MSU and lose to Illinois it drops to 40%.
So we really need to beat MSU in the early game Saturday to even begin to fathom it.
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