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if can go 4-1 the last 5 games, 10-10 conference 19-12 overall

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I could see maybe with a run to Saturday/Sunday B10 tournament, where that might squeak us in to a play in game. But it would also probably require a lot of help from others.

If we get to 9 or 10 B10 wins...it will have been the ineptness at end of game situations that ended up being the final nail in our coffin. At that point, winning even just one of those close, down the wire games, would have changed everything.

As it stands...its a silly notion to think this team has the stones to finish that well, though. We have zero closers on this team, and aren't led by a "closer" coaching staff.
 
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would that put us on the bubble?

Maybe. Palm has us 1st 4 out. Lunarde still has us in the Next 4 out. Our various rankings are in the 50's. A lot would depend on what other teams in this range do. I'd suggest that if we went 4-1, and won 1 game in the BTT we'd probably be in. That probably means beating PU at home, unless we're winning @ Oregon.
 
Maybe. Palm has us 1st 4 out. Lunarde still has us in the Next 4 out. Our various rankings are in the 50's. A lot would depend on what other teams in this range do. I'd suggest that if we went 4-1, and won 1 game in the BTT we'd probably be in. That probably means beating PU at home, unless we're winning @ Oregon.
don't see us wining at Oregon, Purdue and OSU must win
 
I could see maybe with a run to Saturday/Sunday B10 tournament, where that might squeak us in to a play in game. But it would also probably require a lot of help from others.

If we get to 9 or 10 B10 wins...it will have been the ineptness at end of game situations that ended up being the final nail in our coffin. At that point, winning even just one of those close, down the wire games, would have changed everything.

As it stands...its a silly notion to think this team has the stones to finish that well, though. We have zero closers on this team, and aren't led by a "closer" coaching staff.
Maryland Purdue UCLA if just could have pulled 1 of those out
 
don't see us wining at Oregon, Purdue and OSU must win

I'd agree. I'm pretty confident we'll win the PSU. OSU, and Washington games. Purdue at home would seem in reach given the game at Mackey. On the road @ Oregon seems a tough one.

Despite our losing streak we're really not that far off making the tourney. It can happen.
 
I'd agree. I'm pretty confident we'll win the PSU. OSU, and Washington games. Purdue at home would seem in reach given the game at Mackey. On the road @ Oregon seems a tough one.

Despite our losing streak we're really not that far off making the tourney. It can happen.
knowing this team, will probably beat Purdue and Oregon and lose the other 3
 
seems like a PR nightmare in the making if CMW was forced to 'retire'...then the team gets hot, makes the tourney and goes to the S16. Fanbase will be viewed as a bunch of spastic fools by the national media.

sorry and it's just my 2 cents, best long term outcome is quick end to season, make the right hire early in spring, then get to building a new culture and program. Hit the portal, see if any HS seniors might be having second thoughts once new coach is named.
 
seems like a PR nightmare in the making if CMW was forced to 'retire'...then the team gets hot, makes the tourney and goes to the S16. Fanbase will be viewed as a bunch of spastic fools by the national media.

sorry and it's just my 2 cents, best long term outcome is quick end to season, make the right hire early in spring, then get to building a new culture and program. Hit the portal, see if any HS seniors might be having second thoughts once new coach is named.
If so, it will eventually be relegated to a footnote by this time next year.
 
Just some rough numbers why I think unlikely. I know a lot of criticisms could be made of this but just rough numbers. 68 total bids and 32 automatic (31 tournaments and 1 regular season). Take out the 6 large conferences then you likely have around 26 low ranked teams with auto bids. So 68-26=42 bids remaining. Just using NET as a basis then roughly if you are ranked 42 or higher then good chance you are in. Six highly ranked auto bids and 36 at large bids. I don’t believe our NET would be 42 or higher would be possible with 4-1 record from here out. We are 2-11 quad 1 and have collected a lot of bad beats so hard to move the ranking much and today 57.
 
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Just some rough numbers why I think unlikely. I know a lot of criticisms could be made of this but just rough numbers. 68 total bids and 32 automatic (31 tournaments and 1 regular season). Take out the 6 large conferences then you likely have around 26 low ranked teams with auto bids. So 68-26=42 at large bids remaining. Just using NET as a basis then roughly if you are ranked 42 or higher then good chance you are in. I don’t believe our NET would be 42 or higher would be possible with 4-1 record from here out. We are 2-11 quad 1 and have collected a lot of bad beats so hard to move the ranking much and today 57.
You need to also subtract the auto bids for the power conferences.

Edit: Never mind, I see you accounted for the auto bids.
 
You need to also subtract the auto bids for the power conferences.

Edit: Never mind, I see you accounted for the auto bids.
Yes. You are right so out of the 42 six of those bids are the big conferences and so likely highly rated so 36 at large bids to still get to the top 42.
 
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seems like a PR nightmare in the making if CMW was forced to 'retire'...then the team gets hot, makes the tourney and goes to the S16. Fanbase will be viewed as a bunch of spastic fools by the national media.

sorry and it's just my 2 cents, best long term outcome is quick end to season, make the right hire early in spring, then get to building a new culture and program. Hit the portal, see if any HS seniors might be having second thoughts once new coach is named.
Being viewed as spastic fools by the national media is the least of our dysfunctional concerns. They dismissed us years ago. Whoever we hire at this point will barely be detectable as an unidentifiable blip on the national media’s radar screen. In the ledger book of the media, we’re still on their payback time for Knight’s bullying transgressions. With the list of viable candidates creeping farther down the pecking order, I see no reason why the curse won’t continue.
 
seems like a PR nightmare in the making if CMW was forced to 'retire'...then the team gets hot, makes the tourney and goes to the S16. Fanbase will be viewed as a bunch of spastic fools by the national media.

sorry and it's just my 2 cents, best long term outcome is quick end to season, make the right hire early in spring, then get to building a new culture and program. Hit the portal, see if any HS seniors might be having second thoughts once new coach is named.
Nah. Cant have an NC State situation. Now they are stuck with Keatts longer now lol
 
Nah. Cant have an NC State situation. Now they are stuck with Keatts longer now lol
The way I see it, IU will be hiring a new coach at the end of this season no matter what, even if they win the NC this year (HA!!).

1) Anything less than a S16 appearance will be viewed as business as usual. No change in future plans.

2) A S16 will be a huge surprise (to say the least), but viewed as a nice send off that does not change future plans.

3) An E8 or better will be the story of the tournament, obviously. It will be ultimately viewed as the best IU send off ever (arguably the best college basketball send off ever if they make the FF), but it still will not change future plans.
 
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seems like a PR nightmare in the making if CMW was forced to 'retire'...then the team gets hot, makes the tourney and goes to the S16. Fanbase will be viewed as a bunch of spastic fools by the national media.

sorry and it's just my 2 cents, best long term outcome is quick end to season, make the right hire early in spring, then get to building a new culture and program. Hit the portal, see if any HS seniors might be having second thoughts once new coach is named.
what national media? no one cares about NCAA hoops until the tournament. and really who cares what anyone thinks
 
Being viewed as spastic fools by the national media is the least of our dysfunctional concerns. They dismissed us years ago. Whoever we hire at this point will barely be detectable as an unidentifiable blip on the national media’s radar screen. In the ledger book of the media, we’re still on their payback time for Knight’s bullying transgressions. With the list of viable candidates creeping farther down the pecking order, I see no reason why the curse won’t continue.


ok mr. gloomy puss
 
I would rather make the tournament, as frustrating as this team has been, I still watch and still want them to win, Woodson is gone no matter what.


I feel like Goode and Leal are the only two guys on the entire team, including the coaching staff, who give much of a shit. Maybe some of the walk-ons & managers. For them, only, whoever they are, I hope we make the tourney and last a while.
 
If we beat Purdue and look decent doing it, then I will start to entertain those thoughts. I actually brought up this exact same scenario at work the other day. That scenario being Woodson/team find their balls, get hot, make the tournament, get to S16/Elite8 and then Woodson all of a sudden "feels good enough" to keep coaching. How would/should IU react? Is he still out the door? I don't see it happening but stranger things have, and it sure would be typical of IU basketball in this decade.
 
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