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I woke up still pissed about the state of our bball program

More exercise? Just let anyone from DOGE/X into the building to access classified documents, even if they don't have clearance.

Wife said today she finally understands how the Nazis came to power.
 
More exercise? Just let anyone from DOGE/X into the building to access classified documents, even if they don't have clearance.

twenty honest question, do you make your money from the government?
 
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More exercise? Just let anyone from DOGE/X into the building to access classified documents, even if they don't have clearance.

We are learning the federal government payment systems, its accounts payable systems, and other outgoing cash flow systems are a joke. No controls. No meaningful oversight. No ability to stop a payment. No wonder much of this is “classified”. It’s a damn embarrassment. No responsible company would run this way. When I recall how federal bean counters wanted to know who ate local government bagels bought with a federal grant, I’m saying WTF?

Our financial system is system is in badly need of upgrades. I’m glad musk worked Saturday on this.
 
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More exercise? Just let anyone from DOGE/X into the building to access classified documents, even if they don't have clearance.

@BradStevens asked about how fascism could come here. I am not saying this IS, but this would be a step along the way.
 
We are learning the federal government payment systems, its accounts payable systems, and other outgoing cash flow systems are a joke. No controls. No meaningful oversight. No ability to stop a payment. No wonder much of this is “classified”. It’s a damn embarrassment. No responsible company would run this way. When I recall how federal bean counters wanted to know who ate local government bagels bought with a federal grant, I’m saying WTF?

Our financial system is system is in badly need of upgrades. I’m glad musk worked Saturday on this.
You honestly want individuals having the power to stop duly authorized payments?
 
We are learning the federal government payment systems, its accounts payable systems, and other outgoing cash flow systems are a joke. No controls. No meaningful oversight. No ability to stop a payment. No wonder much of this is “classified”. It’s a damn embarrassment. No responsible company would run this way. When I recall how federal bean counters wanted to know who ate local government bagels bought with a federal grant, I’m saying WTF?

Our financial system is system is in badly need of upgrades. I’m glad musk worked Saturday on this.

What you've posted is just blatantly false.

The Treasury is just the bank account. They no more stop payments on things than your bank would stop payments on your business that's issuing checks to vendors.

Its the responsibility of the fund holder to verify and certify payments are valid. In the govts case, this is the agency that is doing the purchasing. And there are many controls in place in the AP systems of agencies to guard against erroneous payment.

It's not Bank of America's job to do oversight or stop payments on checks you write, and it's not the Treasury's job to do it for Federal agencies. The only exception to that is if someone is on a Do Not Pay list due to govt imposed sanctions. Which would similarly impact other banks.
 
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Because you defend the Big Government cradle to grave philosophy!

Bullshit. I'm calling out the hypocrisy of allowing uncleared individuals to just run rampant across all classification laws. Hope Elon is willing to cover these young fascists legal bills in a couple of years when they get drug in front of a Dem oversight panel.

In an early part of my career out of undergrad years ago....I did work auditing several different federal agencies, so I understand the nuts and bolts of how their system operates. And the headaches of getting people clearances.
 
The Treasury is just the bank account. They no more stop payments on things than your bank would stop payments on your business that's issuing checks to vendors.
You should have represented the bankers and investment advisors in the Madoff fraud. They ended up paying billions to the victims.

I think you are probably correct about how spending agencies and treasury work together. That’s the problem. The defense department fails its audit 7 years in a row. Nobody is anxious to immediately fix the problems.

Our systems are a mess.
 
Our systems are a mess.
Of course they are. Ancient monstrosities that were put together by low bidders and then after 2x budget overruns there were shortcuts to just finish the things. Any work going forward was/is not only lowest bid, but also has to have either x% of minorities on the staffing plan or be led by a minority GC which then subs everything out with little to no control over what goes on.
 
You should have represented the bankers and investment advisors in the Madoff fraud. They ended up paying billions to the victims.

I think you are probably correct about how spending agencies and treasury work together. That’s the problem. The defense department fails its audit 7 years in a row. Nobody is anxious to immediately fix the problems.

Our systems are a mess.

I'm sure EFT is now used for most all payments. 20+ years ago I was in a DOD disbursing facility and they had these mammoth rolls of US Treasury checks. Bigger than these. And that thing was just humming


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I'm sure EFT is now used for most all payments. 20+ years ago I was in a DOD disbursing facility and they had these mammoth rolls of US Treasury checks. Bigger than these. And that thing was just humming


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This is actually one of the scariest things I’ve ever seen.

Millions and millions. Billions and billions.
 
You honestly want individuals having the power to stop duly authorized payments?
Maybe use algorithms to alert individuals to suspected fraud or other issues. That’s the standard of care for banks and credit card companies now.

Waste fraud and abuse in spending has been an issue for government for decades. We need to address it.
 
We are learning the federal government payment systems, its accounts payable systems, and other outgoing cash flow systems are a joke. No controls. No meaningful oversight. No ability to stop a payment. No wonder much of this is “classified”. It’s a damn embarrassment. No responsible company would run this way. When I recall how federal bean counters wanted to know who ate local government bagels bought with a federal grant, I’m saying WTF?

Our financial system is system is in badly need of upgrades. I’m glad musk worked Saturday on this.
This is finally being understood, just as I am wanting to find a "good" gov gig, with no accountability, just say yes and sign the paper, turn a blind eye and draw a nice check with ZERO checks and balances on what I actually do.
WELL SOB !!!
 
Bullshit. I'm calling out the hypocrisy of allowing uncleared individuals to just run rampant across all classification laws. Hope Elon is willing to cover these young fascists legal bills in a couple of years when they get drug in front of a Dem oversight panel.

In an early part of my career out of undergrad years ago....I did work auditing several different federal agencies, so I understand the nuts and bolts of how their system operates. And the headaches of getting people clearances.

Bullshit. I'm calling out the hypocrisy of allowing uncleared individuals to just run rampant across all classification laws. Hope Elon is willing to cover these young fascists legal bills in a couple of years when they get drug in front of a Dem oversight panel.

In an early part of my career out of undergrad years ago....I did work auditing several different federal agencies, so I understand the nuts and bolts of how their system operates. And the headaches of getting people clearances.
I am not talking about since Our Lord and Savior was elected. You dress more to the left than right.
 
Bullshit. I'm calling out the hypocrisy of allowing uncleared individuals to just run rampant across all classification laws. Hope Elon is willing to cover these young fascists legal bills in a couple of years when they get drug in front of a Dem oversight panel.

In an early part of my career out of undergrad years ago....I did work auditing several different federal agencies, so I understand the nuts and bolts of how their system operates. And the headaches of getting people clearances.
Gotta move fast and break things. USAID can suck a fart. Belongs on the ash heap of history.

Can’t get bogged down in typical clearance and procedure. No more bureaucratic quagmires.

What exactly did people think cutting the executive branch down to size would oook like?
Bullshit. I'm calling out the hypocrisy of allowing uncleared individuals to just run rampant across all classification laws. Hope Elon is willing to cover these young fascists legal bills in a couple of years when they get drug in front of a Dem oversight panel.

In an early part of my career out of undergrad years ago....I did work auditing several different federal agencies, so I understand the nuts and bolts of how their system operates. And the headaches of getting people clearances.
With all due respect Twenty. Blow it out your rear.

Unless you’re a MMT braindead everyone has known for years about how the deficit is a ticking time bomb. Now the smartest person in the world wants to try and tackle it and ***** get bent out of shape about the nuts and bolts of how he goes about doing it.
 
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