By definition, if you feel like you need something for protection it's because you're afraid of something potentially happening. Buying a gun is 100% about calculating how much fear you want to live with.
I hope a bomb is dropped on the NRA convention.
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The problem with that thinking is it feeds the arms race to keep up with the firepower we may have to face. Where does it stop, pastor?
Let me ask you this. Why do we have police at all? Isn't it because bad things happen and bad people happen? I actually would argue though I don't have a gun that having a gun brings more peace of mind. If you are confronted by those who have ill intention then at least you have a fighting chance.
This whole thread is pretty disgusting, though I think we can recognize hyperbole, even if poorly executed. Taking it literally, while I wouldn't attend an NRA meeting, I don't want the attendees killed. Some common sense inflicted on them? Sure. A bomb? No.
Are you talking about nation verses nation now? I would say this. The fact the U.S. has nuclear weapons has kept us safer because which country is going to come against us since we have them? It is a deterrent. Take a woman who is out alone at night and a man approaches her in the parking lot because he is either going to mug her or rape her. She turns around and has a revolver. Is that a deterrent? Will the man proceed or will he flee?
There is probably a background check.
Kids drove to school with guns in their vehicles in the 70s. What were the numbers of mass shootings then vs now?
This is a societal problem, not a gun problem.
Suggesting destroying an NRA convention is proof you have no concern about life and just want your demands met.
Go to a gun show, Debbie. Everyone there is armed.
How many mass shootings have you ever seen at a gun show?
Come on. I would hazard a guess that the divide is pretty even here.
Don't act like this is some liberal coven. You're better than that.
Well, passing a law will definitely work. No more bombs are being made in the US!
Dumbass.
Should’ve had legislation on the floor yesterday and forced the filibuster. It baffles me why they don’t.
I’m pro arms but believe assault rifles should be banned. It baffles me they’re not.
I’m pro arms but believe assault rifles should be banned. It baffles me they’re not.
Oh, when one of your own is caught calling for violence, it's all hyperbole.
But you have NO problem blaming the NRA for mass shootings.
Dumbass.
My mom would call someone like you and drunk. Of course, that's rude. Alcoholic is a much more polite description.
I'm saying most of the people I know who are buying guns are getting assault rifles. Not sure it's just for personal protection, I've heard more than a few say they want to protect their "rights." When I say we're in an arms race, I mean now I have to think about whether I need my own assault weapon to protect my own rights?
if you walked past her back in the day, she would probably say something like "that boy aint right"
You can keep saying the same thing over and over and it still won’t matter.
Why do people seek out protection? Because they’re afraid of something and they’re trying to avoid it.
Be not afraid, Van. He goes before you always. A wop bop a loo bop a wop bam boom.
Mine used colorful expressions, like "he's a few blackberries short of a full pie"
From 1970 to 2020, the US population increased from about 203 million to 331 million.
In that same time period, the number of guns owned in this country increased from about 103 million to 398 million. So the population increased 60% and the number of guns increased 300%.
It can be both a societal problem and a gun problem.
Protecting property? You seriously think Jesus would have thought it acceptable to use a gun to protect your property?
I bet the left on this board would cheer if the UN came in and confiscated our guns!
Oh, and your suggestion that the above passage from Luke 22 is about self-defense is absolute garbage.
As can you keep saying the same thing over and over and it won't make any difference. Do you wear a seatbelt? The only reason to is you are paranoid about being in an accident.
First, I believe in an individual's right to have arms for self-defense.
Next, your reliance on Luke as support for that right is preposterous. The passage you cite was just before Jesus' arrest and crucifixion, and Jesus was talking about scripture being fulfilled by Jesus being "counted among the lawless."
Later in Luke, when one of his disciples cuts off, with a sword, a soldier's ear as Jesus is about to be arrested, Jesus says: "'No more of this!' And he touched his ear and healed him."
Jesus also emphatically rejected the "eye for an eye" philosophy and instead advocated for "turn[ing] the other cheek."
Go ahead and make your political arguments, but don't distort the New Testament and turn Jesus into a gun rights advocate. Good Lord!
I do it because the damn car makes a terrible ding ding racket if I don't.
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You’ve been making this argument over and over and I think it’s 100 percent wrong - as well as unhelpful. Many people own guns for the purpose of self-protection and they’re not any more “afraid” than you or me. Most wouldn’t be considered afraid at all. They are just deciding that their circumstances are such that relying on themselves to protect themselves and families is more appropriate than relying on law enforcement alone. You prefer to rely on law enforcement alone and that’s your right.
Your argument is unhelpful because you’re belittling or denigrating gun owners rather than actually understanding them. That’s a requirement for productive debate - which is what this country needs.
The NRA is just a collection of people, Ban the NRA and those people will go to another entity.
No, the Democrats are the NRA's, and gun manufacturer's, golden goose boogeyman.
I'll tell you this, if my child was killed in one of these school shootings, I'd join the NRA and get a front row seat during one of their conventions. Just saying.
You own the Internet today. Bravo.
You don’t think gun manufacturers will find another group to solicit politicians? Again, it blows me away that the NRA is the object of your vitriol & not the people that actually make the policies & laws. Seems kinda dumb…
