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I break my own rule about AOC

She’s raw. It’s going to happen. She has shined in other hearings (Cohen for example). Being good in hearings is kind of like being good in bed/ the only way to get better at it is to do it. And you’re probably not going to be the best at it at first.

I am encouraged by her and a few other freshman reps treating hearings like... hearings. Far too often reps use hearings not to discover new info or clarify understanding, but instead use them to grandstand. Thinking about the Louie Gohmerts & the Matt Gaetz’s of the Group. Those guys clearly don’t give a chit about anything except for making a point in the hearings.

Again, that’s not really the point of the hearings. The house has devolved over the past few decades. It’s a clown show for the most part. Now, even the security council has succumbed to partisan politics (see Nunes).

I've said it for a long time, House of Reps members are simply not impressive. Sure, there are a few exceptions, but the fact that you have CEOs and other organizational leaders brought before a bunch of ignorant people that have little experience with the segments they are supposedly overseeing (e.g. Waters with FS) is a waste of everyone's time. And, to you point, lots of them take the time to either grandstand or voice their own opinion without actually asking legitimate questions about whatever issue(s) are supposed to be the focal point of the interrogation.

And the Senate is marginally better. Overall, the intellect seems to be at a higher level, but the understanding of the complexities of things like financial markets, technology/data/security, etc. is still sub-par.
 
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I am encouraged by her and a few other freshman reps treating hearings like... hearings.
Forget AOC, check out Katie Porter.

Here's just one takedown, starting at the 5:20 mark.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...456947779823&usg=AOvVaw14IjdLG4LwAu7bg92bCk27

(BTW, the Well Fargo lapel pin he's wearing? Imported from China by my company.)

She also just wiped out the head of the Consumer Protect Agency (I think that was the entity) the other day, who couldn't even begin to calculate the APR on a payday loan.
 
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I'd contend it depends on how the Dem appeals to disaffected Republicans. He or she would need to go to Iowa and expose the tarrifs as a harm to farmers; to Ohio, to tell the Lordstown workers he betrayed them by loosening the fuel standards that drove small car sales; to WVa to expose the fraud perpetuated on the coal miners; to WI, to demonstrate how the Foxconn factory was a hoax; and finally, to the southern border, to ask why Mexico hasn't yet paid for his wall.

In each of these examples, the Dem should have alternative proposals at the ready, ones that would achieve the benefits Trump promised.

If a Dem took that approach, they'd pull in plenty of disaffected Republicans, and not have to give away the store to do it.
You seem to be assuming that a rational, intellectual approach will work all by itself. Not me. I can't assume that will work, because Trump has already shown that he won't play that rational game.

Remember last election when Hillary was speaking ernestly to voters (with eye contact no less) in the town hall fomat while Trump intentionally left his lectern to glower behind her within the camera angle? To make my point, do you remember any of what Hillary was saying? I assume not.

Hillary reached, perhaps, 20-30 voters in person with her eye contact while Trump's threatening TV image (later reinforced by Alec Baldwin on SNL) reached millions by intentionally placing himself behind Hillary's shoulder, thus dominating and belittling her. The image showed Hillary was weaker than Trump, so Hillary's literal message simply did not matter.

A successful Trump opponent absolutely must not let Trump break the rules like that, and the networks have already shown they won't cut off his microphone or make him stand by his lectern. Now that he's President, he is sure to be far worse. The important thing in the debates is the TV image, not the literal policy message.

So, what to do?

To be successful, the Democrat simply must not let Trump dominate the physical stage. If necessary, the Democrat must leave his own podium and politely stand behind Trump (so the audience can see Trump paying attention to the Democrat). It would also be okay to walk over and politely occupy Trump's podium and take away Trump's microphone ("sorry, but mine doesn't seem to be working well enough"). If Trump whines and complains, so much the better because it shows his true weakness. And, ignore the impotent network moderator, who is absolutely powerless to do anything about it.

And, while stuff like this is going on, the Dem can keep talking policy throughout while Trump fumes in the corner.

I know some candidates would not want to do what I suggest. But, the point is, Democrats will fail if they try to oppose Trump by following the rules of the Marquess of Queensberry while Trump is certain to follow the rules of Tony Soprano and Roger Stone. Until the Dems come to grips with that reality, it's really pointless for Dems to waste time formulating a message that Trump is sure to block or shout down.
 
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To be successful, the Democrat simply must not let Trump dominate the physical stage.[...]If Trump whines and complains, so much the better because it shows his true weakness. And, ignore the impotent network moderator, who is absolutely powerless to do anything about it.
I know some candidates would not want to do what I suggest. But, the point is, Democrats will fail if they try to oppose Trump by following the rules of the Marquess of Queensberry while Trump is certain to follow the rules of Tony Soprano and Roger Stone.
Your points are well taken. What Trump did in the primary debates and in the debates with Clinton was unprecedented and beyond the pale. And yes, expecting the debate hosts or the moderators to rein him in would be foolish.

Suffice it to say I'm sure that will all be taken into account during the debate prep. Whoever the nominee is, he/she had better be ready, and have that "it" factor to counter his tactics on the fly.
 
You seem to be assuming that a rational, intellectual approach will work all by itself. Not me. I can't assume that will work, because Trump has already shown that he won't play that rational game.

Remember last election when Hillary was speaking ernestly to voters (with eye contact no less) in the town hall fomat while Trump intentionally left his lectern to glower behind her within the camera angle? To make my point, do you remember any of what Hillary was saying? I assume not.

Hillary reached, perhaps, 20-30 voters in person with her eye contact while Trump's threatening TV image (later reinforced by Alec Baldwin on SNL) reached millions by intentionally placing himself behind Hillary's shoulder, thus dominating and belittling her. The image showed Hillary was weaker than Trump, so Hillary's literal message simply did not matter.

A successful Trump opponent absolutely must not let Trump break the rules like that, and the networks have already shown they won't cut off his microphone or make him stand by his lectern. Now that he's President, he is sure to be far worse. The important thing in the debates is the TV image, not the literal policy message.

So, what to do?

To be successful, the Democrat simply must not let Trump dominate the physical stage. If necessary, the Democrat must leave his own podium and politely stand behind Trump (so the audience can see Trump paying attention to the Democrat). It would also be okay to walk over and politely occupy Trump's podium and take away Trump's microphone ("sorry, but mine doesn't seem to be working well enough"). If Trump whines and complains, so much the better because it shows his true weakness. And, ignore the impotent network moderator, who is absolutely powerless to do anything about it.

And, while stuff like this is going on, the Dem can keep talking policy throughout while Trump fumes in the corner.

I know some candidates would not want to do what I suggest. But, the point is, Democrats will fail if they try to oppose Trump by following the rules of the Marquess of Queensberry while Trump is certain to follow the rules of Tony Soprano and Roger Stone. Until the Dems come to grips with that reality, it's really pointless for Dems to waste time formulating a message that Trump is sure to block or shout down.
I don't think Trump acting like an a$$ is the reason he won the Presidency. I think he won despite that. Hillary won 3 million more votes than him nationally too. I'd prefer that our candidate doesn't try to be a bigger a$$ than Trump.
 
Forget AOC, check out Katie Porter.

Here's just one takedown, starting at the 5:20 mark.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwid07j-nYDhAhVsooMKHUMRBE4QwqsBMAF6BAgCEAc&url=https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/freshmen-dems-changing-everything-for-trump-1456947779823&usg=AOvVaw14IjdLG4LwAu7bg92bCk27

(BTW, the Well Fargo lapel pin he's wearing? Imported from China by my company.)

She also just wiped out the head of the Consumer Protect Agency (I think that was the entity) the other day, who couldn't even begin to calculate the APR on a payday loan.


https://www.law.uci.edu/faculty/full-time/porter/

Porter's an expert in that field so she's a great fit for that committee. Tenured college professor at Cal Irvine who was a bank monitor in California and a student of Sen. Warren at Harvard.

Lots of great Dems in the freshman class
 
Forget AOC, check out Katie Porter.

Here's just one takedown, starting at the 5:20 mark.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwid07j-nYDhAhVsooMKHUMRBE4QwqsBMAF6BAgCEAc&url=https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/freshmen-dems-changing-everything-for-trump-1456947779823&usg=AOvVaw14IjdLG4LwAu7bg92bCk27

(BTW, the Well Fargo lapel pin he's wearing? Imported from China by my company.)

She also just wiped out the head of the Consumer Protect Agency (I think that was the entity) the other day, who couldn't even begin to calculate the APR on a payday loan.

Was thinking of her, but couldn’t remember her name. She’s going to be pretty good. Hell, she’s already prettt good.

But she’s an exception, sadly.
 
Forget AOC, check out Katie Porter.

Here's just one takedown, starting at the 5:20 mark.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwid07j-nYDhAhVsooMKHUMRBE4QwqsBMAF6BAgCEAc&url=https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/freshmen-dems-changing-everything-for-trump-1456947779823&usg=AOvVaw14IjdLG4LwAu7bg92bCk27

(BTW, the Well Fargo lapel pin he's wearing? Imported from China by my company.)

She also just wiped out the head of the Consumer Protect Agency (I think that was the entity) the other day, who couldn't even begin to calculate the APR on a payday loan.

I thought Sloan actually handled that pretty well. That being said, he should have been fired in the first place. It's incredible to me that anyone (attorneys, employees, customers, investors, regulators) think Sloan didn't know about those events and that he somehow escaped the wrath (rightfully) felt by the CEO. Operations were his responsibility and these were egregious operating errors and issues!
 
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