Hire Beard
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Name them. Don't you think UK and UL were interested in whoever you name? They're not really candidates if they aren't interested. When IUNorth has tried to answer that, the first names he lists are Stevens, Oats, and Pearl. Pearl is the only 1 of those 3 that might have an interest and I don't think he's an option either with his age, and current success at Auburn. But, still worth a call. Bennett, Wright, TJO, Barnes... those guys aren't options either, imo.
Really? I cut and pasted from your post all except replacing "see" with "want to imagine". I don't think there's any correlation there.
IU '88
lol good one Bro. I have an MBA but not from Lincoln trail.
As for your assumption…coaches with issues. Coaching is a career and many coaches have had “issues”. Are they not allowed to move on from that mistake or learn from that mistake?
You know there are levels of severity when it comes to mistakes. Make a big enough one and doors start to close / opportunities can be limited.
I am still waiting to see the crimes he was charged and convicted of? Once the sentence is handed down let me know.
Though I bet if they had a few people on here on the jury they would have gotten a conviction without a doubt. No wonder people think there is no such thing as an unbiased jury.
Now the third-degree felony charge is dismissed, and so is the threat of up to 10 years in prison. Travis County District Attorney José Garza announced Wednesday that based on the case evidence and the fiancee’s wishes not to prosecute, he likely could not get a conviction.
Now the third-degree felony charge is dismissed, and so is the threat of up to 10 years in prison. Travis County District Attorney José Garza announced Wednesday that based on the case evidence and the fiancee’s wishes not to prosecute, he likely could not get a conviction.
You don’t understand the brand damage and risk to the university that would come with this hire. It’s not about convicted or not.
I've listed plenty of other names. I list those unlikely guys, every time, because Dolson would be negligent to not reach out to them. And we're 4 years removed from Stevens having interest. I've said, in basically ever post I've listed him in that its unlikely...and it is. But he did have interest 4 years ago, but obviously not enough. Maybe less now, maybe more?
You sound like a fussy toddler. Woodson has to go... Those guys would never come... How do we know those guys would be good... whaaaaaa....
We're less then 3 months from dramatically improving the state of our program. That's exciting. Whether its Ben McCollum or Brad Stevens, or some other dude no one has mentioned yet. There are dozens, if not a hundred or so, coaches that will put IU in a better spot than we're in right now.
I wonder what percentage of IU fans are not alumni. I would venture to guess it's in the area of 90.
I haven’t seen one comment about ole miss damage? I see praise on ESPN about how well they are playing. I didn’t see the media bashing St. John’s for hiring Pitino.
Did Texas Texh get blasted for hiring RMK after IU fired him? I think this is a made up argument of damage to the brand. The damage to the brand is being done by not winning.
There won't be much flack or push back until it flares up again. No one was talking about Sampson's issues at IU when we were 20-2...until the IU internal investigation findings came out...then it quickly blew up, and nuke missiled our program. Maybe nothing ever comes up from all this ever again. I hope so, for Beard, and for everyone else involved. I just believe there will be enough other viable candidates, that would ALSO be successful at IU, that risking the flare up...or risking Beard recreating such an incident...isn't worth it.
Most decent high school coaches would put us in a better spot than we're in right now. We can't let that be the bar (and I know you're not suggesting that it should be), but the "Coach X would be better than Woodson" sentiment is both true and also says nothing.
Of course. I just don't get the constant negativity on what we're about to go through. Indiana is still one of the most prestigious jobs in the country. And there are a lot of good, smart, coaches out there. People are crapping on Mark Pope right now...he basically had to start over, and Kentucky has been a top 10 level team for mutliple weeks. And he was probably their 3rd, 4th, 5th?? choice? When and if IU has to audible and go with their 4th or 5th choice, and they produce results similar to what Pope has produced...that would be one of the top 2-3 seasons we've had since RMK.
Is Chris Beard your cousin or something? How do you know Beard is even interested in the, not yet open, IU job? At this point the other guys you listed are just as realistic.
I looked for 30 seconds and the articles on the Beard hire at Ole Miss talk about the DV issues extensively. I see references to "desperation" and "questionable ethics" and explanations as to why they did it. Ole Miss basketball didn't have much to lose, they're bottom of the barrel already. IUBB despite being terrible for 25 years is still very valuable with a lot to lose.
When IUBB hires a coach, there will be countless articles written about it, and basically every one will include the DV allegations. Same will go for all the op-eds, interviews, and podcasts about the hire -- we'll get the firestorm of DV discussion like on this board. That is not good.
Fair or not, IU will to some extent be viewed as okay with DV. This is a big problem for people who run the university whether you care about it or not.
And, if Beard has any issues at IU, the damage to IU will be significant. Pam and Scott would be fired.
If I were doing the coaching search, and Beard really wanted the job, I would check into his story with PIs, etc. But my guess is he screwed up and there is no angle that clears his name to such an extent it wouldn't be a PR nightmare to hire him. He would have done this already if he could.
ESPN praising the SEC is like your mom saying you're special.
Ok an article is written? Who cares? What’s that do? Nothing, absolutely nothing.
All the PR around our bball hire mentions DV and how IU is okay with that issue out there. That is very bad. Duh.
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