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Property for sale. Anyone have memories of the old Herald Telephone? I remember going in late on election night with my grandfather. Free coffee and donuts next to the “big board”.
I know they had marketing to prove they needed to be a morning paper, but once I could not get a recap of the basketball games from the previous evening the paper was much less valuable to me.

But I think their election night coverage, which was also broadcast on BCAT, was a good service.
 
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I know they had marketing to prove they needed to be a morning paper, but once I could not get a recap of the basketball games from the previous evening the paper was much less valuable to me.

But I think their election night coverage, which was also broadcast on BCAT, was a good service.
Just a bygone era.
 
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Property for sale. Anyone have memories of the old Herald Telephone? I remember going in late on election night with my grandfather. Free coffee and donuts next to the “big board”.
“The old Herald Telephone“?

I delivered the H-T. I haven’t lived in Bloomington for decades, but I’ve been back many times. Haven’t paid attention to the newspapers.

Are you telling me there is no more H-T? At one point, we got the Star in the morning and the H-T in the afternoon. Then there was the option of a second, competing afternoon paper, although I can’t remember its name. Rex Kirts was the sports guy, I believe.

What’s in Bloomington now?
 
“The old Herald Telephone“?

I delivered the H-T. I haven’t lived in Bloomington for decades, but I’ve been back many times. Haven’t paid attention to the newspapers.

Are you telling me there is no more H-T? At one point, we got the Star in the morning and the H-T in the afternoon. Then there was the option of a second, competing afternoon paper, although I can’t remember its name. Rex Kirts was the sports guy, I believe.

What’s in Bloomington now?
They sold out. It’s still the HT but it’s printed in Indy. Pretty sloppy paper and uses a lot of indystar content.
 
“The old Herald Telephone“?

I delivered the H-T. I haven’t lived in Bloomington for decades, but I’ve been back many times. Haven’t paid attention to the newspapers.

Are you telling me there is no more H-T? At one point, we got the Star in the morning and the H-T in the afternoon. Then there was the option of a second, competing afternoon paper, although I can’t remember its name. Rex Kirts was the sports guy, I believe.

What’s in Bloomington now?
News is electronic now, so China can turn it off with a flick of a switch telling their chips and soft malware to kill America.
 
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Maybe you haven't noticed - Trump is back to being a golf course landlord. Time for you to move on.
Maybe YOU haven't noticed his plans to announce his campaign this fall and his legal argument that a declared candidate for POTUS is (by the Barr doctrine) immune from prosecution by the DOJ. The NYT today has an exposé of his concrete plans for the scorched Earth second term.
 
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The HT lost me when they moved the comments section to facebook. Those were good times prior to that move.
 
Maybe YOU haven't noticed his plans to announce his campaign this fall and his legal argument that a declared candidate for POTUS is (by the Barr doctrine) immune from prosecution by the DOJ. The NYT today has an exposée of his concrete plans for the scorched Earth second term.
Do you guys have to wreck another thread? Just let it go. I’m sure I will get a response that I’m not going to respond to. I got sucked in last time.
 
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My dad was my scape goat. He did it everyday with me, he never missed. I slept over friends houses and skipped from time to time. Lol
I did it after I got off at IU for a supplement income. Leave at midnight then go wait for the press to finish. Kind of fun stopping at crescent to get the warm donuts.
 
Maybe YOU haven't noticed his plans to announce his campaign this fall and his legal argument that a declared candidate for POTUS is (by the Barr doctrine) immune from prosecution by the DOJ. The NYT today has an exposé of his concrete plans for the scorched Earth second term.
Unlike you, I pay no attention to Donald Trump

Kinky Friedman will probably run too.

Call me when it matters.

Until then, you’re just a propaganda puppet keeping Trump’s hopes alive.

The more you Trump, the more Trump Trumps.
 
Just a bygone era.
In many ways...I think online/immediate news reporting is "better".

But one area that is sorely lacking, versus the "newspaper days", is reporting on local issues, namely athletics.

It used to be that every single HS game, for pretty much every sport, was covered with at least a box score the following day. And often a couple short paragraph summary. I have a scrap book filled with them. Theres MUCH, MUCH less of that now. Football still gets a decent amount, because they only play once a week. But most of the other sports are getting a fraction of the coverage they used to.

Max Preps offers some of this, and in some cases has video highlights, so the potential is there. But far, far too often, I literally can't find any information on games. In this day and age, it seems absurd to me that Indiana HS basketball games would be this hard to find reporting on. Obviously I can see the scores on John Harrell's website, which is great, so glad he does that still...but if I want to actually see how the score came to be...google searches, facebook and twitter searches, often lead to basically nothing. Frustrating.

Since this is the Water Cooler, and not one of the sports boards, I'll offer up a tie in...I think this deemphasis on anyone caring, actually caring enough to think about, cover, legislate, advocate for...localized issues...is part of our problem today. Trump and Biden don't care, AT ALL, about what their words, actions, and decisions do to main street citizens. Congress doesn't. News media doesn't any more. This leads to people feeling more and more disenfranchised, which leads to anger, resentment, name calling, yeah buts...etc...

So the answer is to fricking give me HS basketball box scores and write ups again!!! Damn it.
 
In many ways...I think online/immediate news reporting is "better".

But one area that is sorely lacking, versus the "newspaper days", is reporting on local issues, namely athletics.

It used to be that every single HS game, for pretty much every sport, was covered with at least a box score the following day. And often a couple short paragraph summary. I have a scrap book filled with them. Theres MUCH, MUCH less of that now. Football still gets a decent amount, because they only play once a week. But most of the other sports are getting a fraction of the coverage they used to.

Max Preps offers some of this, and in some cases has video highlights, so the potential is there. But far, far too often, I literally can't find any information on games. In this day and age, it seems absurd to me that Indiana HS basketball games would be this hard to find reporting on. Obviously I can see the scores on John Harrell's website, which is great, so glad he does that still...but if I want to actually see how the score came to be...google searches, facebook and twitter searches, often lead to basically nothing. Frustrating.

Since this is the Water Cooler, and not one of the sports boards, I'll offer up a tie in...I think this deemphasis on anyone caring, actually caring enough to think about, cover, legislate, advocate for...localized issues...is part of our problem today. Trump and Biden don't care, AT ALL, about what their words, actions, and decisions do to main street citizens. Congress doesn't. News media doesn't any more. This leads to people feeling more and more disenfranchised, which leads to anger, resentment, name calling, yeah buts...etc...

So the answer is to fricking give me HS basketball box scores and write ups again!!! Damn it.
The H-T and the other, later entry to the local newspaper market, both had a lot of photographs, particularly the other paper. You might get 2-3 pictures per game.

It is a shame that local papers are dying. The Cincinnati Enquirer would take an hour to read for the daily editions; the Sunday edition could take up to 2.5 hours. As the paper declined, both in size and quality, I can read the daily in 15 minutes, the Sunday edition in no more than 30 minutes. This is all on-line. They priced the actual paper edition out of the market, forcing people to the on-line edition. Local reporters and editorial staff seem to have been cut to the bare minimum.
 
The H-T and the other, later entry to the local newspaper market, both had a lot of photographs, particularly the other paper. You might get 2-3 pictures per game.

It is a shame that local papers are dying. The Cincinnati Enquirer would take an hour to read for the daily editions; the Sunday edition could take up to 2.5 hours. As the paper declined, both in size and quality, I can read the daily in 15 minutes, the Sunday edition in no more than 30 minutes. This is all on-line. They priced the actual paper edition out of the market, forcing people to the on-line edition. Local reporters and editorial staff seem to have been cut to the bare minimum.

the print editions needed to be phased out, as they are very wasteful of human and paper resources.

much better had all that money that it took to print and distribute the print addition, had been put into the reporting side.

the paper at it's best was The Herald Telephone, which was an afternoon/evening paper. (probably because the Indy Star was a morning paper).

many people subscribed to both The Star and The HT.

Hammel was probably the top draw for the paper after he came to Btown.

seems like Rex Kirts was the #2 sports guy for a while, and maybe covered HS.

the current HT is now Gannett owned and run.

the pro working class economic left, which includes a lot of the Trump base, once had a chance to be the dominant political force.

Dems held both the house and senate for almost every term for decades, by supporting the working guy instead of the investor class/Wall St.

that has little chance today, because today, besides the legality of buying politicians, literally all media is CORPORATE.

the working class, who make up the majority of the citizenry, keep looking for another Teddy Roosevelt or FDR.

Wall St and Wall St emplaced SCOTUS have pretty much killed any chance of that again.

in the Roosevelts' times, much of the media was locally and individually owned. not corporate owned.

it's all corporate owned today. no more Roosevelts allowed.

even local newspapers that aren't Gannett these days, are still hedge fund owned.

but it goes way beyond being just corporate owned and having share holders.

virtually all are now owned or controlled by multinational corporate conglomerates.

and the multinational corporate conglomerates, are controlled by a few mega funds like BlackRock and Vanguard who manage literally trillions, and also are the largest shareholders of big oil, and big insurance, and big pharma, and big healthcare, and big media, and big tech, etc.

so the CORPORATE owned newspaper, and radio station, and tv station, and tech media, not only are mandated to serve there own corporate interests, but also the interests of the rest of their multinational corporate conglomerate as well.

and the interests of all the other corporate conglomerates that are controlled by the mega funds that control enough voting shares of said corporate media, and all their big corporate multinational advertisers, and multinational distribution corporations, to be able to dictate coverage on literally everything economic.

it's all one tangled multinational corporate conglomerate family now, that serves only one master.

on literally anything and everything economic, our media is no less controlled than Russia's or China's.

there literally is no liberal media today on anything economic. only social.

economic progressives are not going to be allowed to win prez elections anymore, nor many senatorial ones either.

so they'll keep everyone fighting 24/7/365 over social issues to keep them occupied, while both branches of the Wall St Party, and all media, are in lockstep on everything economic.

it's not personal. it's just business.

don't shoot the messenger, even if this isn't what people want to hear, and still want to believe in a fairytale media that flat no longer exists.
 
They sold out. It’s still the HT but it’s printed in Indy. Pretty sloppy paper and uses a lot of indystar content.

I still subscribe to the dead tree version, mainly out of pure stubbornness. It's a shell of itself. I'd be more willing to go with the online version if their website didn't suck huge hairy ugly balls and had any more content than the paper version.
 
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