Based on what I'm hearing, the biggest concern on the left - and perhaps this overlaps with the concerns in MAGAland - is that Musk isn't really too concerned with what's wrong with the country, but is instead simply latching onto an opportunity to influence the federal government for his own benefit.
I don't think you need a vibe. I think people just naturally don't trust billionaires. And it doesn't help that he's come off as something of a selfish, petulant child since taking over Twitter, which dovetails nicely with people's natural fears.
You were also talking about why Trump critics and supporters both "seem wary" of Musk, and I was commenting directly to that point.
Agreed. It’s one guy with nothing going on in his life repeating the same political message countless times every day and, even more bizarrely, presenting a fantasized version of himself - - highest IQ, best body, biggest dick, high-level athlete, many thriving businesses, close friends in every industry in every state, most gifted, attractive children - - in a desperate attempt to impress people he doesn’t even know. I think you diagnosed a personality disorder, and it’s actually easier to take in that context. In any event, he’s driven a lot of people away. I stop by if I see something new from you or Ohio or one of the five or six other posters worth reading. Otherwise it’s a waste of time.
Still a pussy shocked by people doing average things in life I see. Eat a bullet. Save yourself from your self loathing. You offer nothing. Why bother in 2025
This surprised me so I looked some stuff up. From this article, it appears Musk has economic reasons for opening up some patents for his companies. Also, Tesla has a boatload of them and SpaceX has hundreds, though they don't seem very valuable:
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I think so too re his objectives and interest. And @Marvin the Martian some time ago has a good post on the philosophical and organizational differences in the sectors and how his skill set might contravene sameThis surprised me so I looked some stuff up. From this article, it appears Musk has economic reasons for opening up some patents for his companies. Also, Tesla has a boatload of them and SpaceX has hundreds, though they don't seem very valuable:
Elon Musk Claims Patents Are for the Weak, His Portfolio Suggests Otherwise
If patents are “for the weak” as Elon Musk claims, why is he patenting his inventions? Here’s an in-depth look at Musk’s IP strategy.
Psychologically, I think Musk is so wealthy now, I doubt he would be trying to rig the govt system to make him much more so (although I'm sure he won't be suggesting anything that would materially affect his own business interests).
I'd guess at this point he wants to be recognized in history as someone great (vanity) and advance his own values. And if he can put his mark on the most powerful nation on Earth, so much the better in that regard.
He's smart, but I'm not sure engineering smart translates to govt/political philosophy smart. It can, of course, but I don't think it's necessarily the case.
*too in prior. Fascinating read on patents. Mark cuban has been vocal about patents too. Claimed they stifle innovationThis surprised me so I looked some stuff up. From this article, it appears Musk has economic reasons for opening up some patents for his companies. Also, Tesla has a boatload of them and SpaceX has hundreds, though they don't seem very valuable:
Elon Musk Claims Patents Are for the Weak, His Portfolio Suggests Otherwise
If patents are “for the weak” as Elon Musk claims, why is he patenting his inventions? Here’s an in-depth look at Musk’s IP strategy.
Psychologically, I think Musk is so wealthy now, I doubt he would be trying to rig the govt system to make him much more so (although I'm sure he won't be suggesting anything that would materially affect his own business interests).
I'd guess at this point he wants to be recognized in history as someone great (vanity) and advance his own values. And if he can put his mark on the most powerful nation on Earth, so much the better in that regard.
He's smart, but I'm not sure engineering smart translates to govt/political philosophy smart. It can, of course, but I don't think it's necessarily the case.
This surprised me so I looked some stuff up. From this article, it appears Musk has economic reasons for opening up some patents for his companies. Also, Tesla has a boatload of them and SpaceX has hundreds, though they don't seem very valuable:
Elon Musk Claims Patents Are for the Weak, His Portfolio Suggests Otherwise
If patents are “for the weak” as Elon Musk claims, why is he patenting his inventions? Here’s an in-depth look at Musk’s IP strategy.
Psychologically, I think Musk is so wealthy now, I doubt he would be trying to rig the govt system to make him much more so (although I'm sure he won't be suggesting anything that would materially affect his own business interests).
I'd guess at this point he wants to be recognized in history as someone great (vanity) and advance his own values. And if he can put his mark on the most powerful nation on Earth, so much the better in that regard.
He's smart, but I'm not sure engineering smart translates to govt/political philosophy smart. It can, of course, but I don't think it's necessarily the case.
They do. They're a trade-off between incentivizing innovation with money through a temporary monopoly and stifling other developers in the time of the patent.
I don’t know enough to comment. I will tell you our first and main product has patents filed by almost 100 companies with similar products. As of today 3 of us have gone to market. I don’t understand what all of those people were doing. It’s not something that cost a fortune to go to market. Why did they bother filing for patent approval. In hopes some outfit would infringe?
Yup. That's what patent trolls do. Those are the people Cuban hates.
Got it. I know time is different between utility and design but there should be a shorter time that you have to go to market or at least demonstrate steps towards same as a condition precedent to an infringement action otherwise you don’t get to be a troll
No Exhibit B. Exhibit A is bowl’s attack. Now **** off we’re having a discussion. He’s mad bc no one cares to hear his threat to democracy loop
Murty, you have my personal thanks for running off two of the most condescending terds to frequent this 'hood for years.
He didn’t mind my presence until I dared to disagree with him last fall about Trump… then the personal attacks came flying. Reminds me a lot of a middle school bully. Probably where the brain development ended
So it's OK with you if someone in the US invents a product and then a country like China can immediately take that invention and subsidize the hell out of it so the original inventor makes no money on it?
I'm just describing the trade-offs that patents represent from a theoretical perspective. Not really expressing an opinion on their desirability.
I believe patents - and the endorcement of them - is the strength of the US and the main reason it is the lead innovator in the world.
The do so illegally. And they do apply there, they just don't enforce the rules.
No. Patents are territorial. They only apply in the country granted. A Chinese guy could go online rip off my design patent and do the exact same thing in China and I’d have no recourse. I know there’s that international wipo or something but I assume you have to register it there and in practice how would a small business enforce it. Call noodle
That's what I'm saying - enforcement is the issue.
I doubt that moron had anything solid to offer. Now that Ranger guy, he was a different matter.
Man, that @anon guy could post.
I think you nailed the concerns of the left. That also reveals the lefts profound ignorance about innovators thinking instead that the government represents innovation. Of course that is hogwash, but the left will never cease thinking about government in this way.
Yeah, that Ranger dude was a fantastic wakeboarder.
