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Goat's Magical Meat Sauce (how to make your pasta rock)

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Tired of your pasta tasting like Chef Boyardee? It's true that some pasta is better than others. Make some goddamn homemade pasta once in a while, is what I'm saying. But that's probably not the problem. The problem is probably your meat sauce sucks. Here's the right way to make it.

1. Get some finely diced fresh garlic and onion. The onion's not required. If you grew up in a family (as I did) that doesn't care for onions, you can skip it. I'd recommend simply scaling back, though. The garlic, however, is critical.

2. Heat up some olive oil in a pan. Add your garlic and onion and sautee it for a couple of minutes. Then you want to add some spices to your pan. These are absolutely required: oregano, salt, black pepper and fennel seed. I strongly recommend white pepper. Thyme and especially rosemary are common additions. Do NOT add basil.

3. Dump some ground pork into the pan. Note I didn't say "sausage." If you go to Meijer and buy "Mild Italian Sausage," I can't help you.

4. After the meat is fully cooked, drain it if need be, depending on the fat content of the pork and how much oil you started with. Put it in the sauce pan with some diced tomato and chiles (another one of the 1,001 uses of Rotel), and some tomato paste and water. If you are too lazy to dilute tomato paste, use tomato sauce, but please note that many brands add salt, garlic and onion to their sauce.

5. Simmer for a while (half hour? hour? whatever) on low or very low heat. Just enough to get it hot, but low enough so that it takes a while. I use setting 2 out of 10 on a relatively low-powered electric range with a ceramic surface and let it go for an hour. This is the point you add the basil, by the way*. Basil goes in the tomato sauce, not the meat.

Cook your pasta, pour the sauce over the pasta and top it with cheese. Real cheese, not shaker cheese.

goat

* As an even fancier-pants alternative, get some fresh basil, and instead of adding it to the sauce, chop it up and add it to the dish as a garnish.
 
Last Sunday

I was down at 800 degrees Three Fires on Illinois after some recreational activities. I ordered the bolognese w/ a side of roasted brussel sprouts. The pasta dish came with a thin orange "sauce". It tastes fine but I made a point to tell the bartender, who I have met numerous times, that it wasn't a traditional bolognese.

The "chef" came out and I explained what a traditional bolognese is. I was wearing a tie dye and an IU hat. At first he looked at me like I was crazy but after the bartender and myself showed him on our phones he was either embarrassed or under qualified. They tried to comp the meal but homey don't play that. I paid and tipped well. I just wanted them to understand what a god damn bolognese was.

This is a very McNutt esque story but I just felt compelled to type it out.
 
Thanks for telling me what to avoid.

I'm surprised. I figured they knew what they were doing.

True bolognese often has an orange hue (due to the ratio of fat to tomato and addition of milk), but it should never, ever be thin and saucy. Sloppy Joes are closer to real bolognese than is American meat sauce or Sunday gravy.

How were the Brussels sprouts? For me, how Brussels sprouts are prepared is often a great way to judge the quality of the kitchen staff. Brussels sprouts and risotto. Classic litmus tests.

goat
 
You are only 2 out of 10 on the McNutt OCD scale...

might be something to watch long term, though.


PS - I was just conversing with the guy who handles all of Indiana's distro for 18th Street, and the answer to you question from last week is a strong "yes".

They are installing three new 15bbl fermenting tanks in their new production facility. They are looking to cover Indiana first and foremost, so the Ft. will see 18th St. on a regular basis.
 
if you ever go to chicago, try la sirena clandestina

they have great brussel sprouts...couple weeks ago my wife and i had prawns, chicken hearts, b-sprouts, bunch of other small plates. Weren't you the guy that was opening a place on Anthony/Crescent? I just drove through and only noticed the old Hyde book store as a vacancy.
 
They were good

I've always had a good meal at that particular establishment. I don't know if they chef got lazy or it was a new guy but I just couldn't let it go.

Tonight we took cauliflower and sliced into about 1/2" thick slices and roasted it off with sliced onion, garlic, chili flakes, oil and sprigs of thyme.

Was delicious and will definitely do that again.

Enjoying a Founders Imperial Stout currently and just saw we are getting 6 + inches of snow on Sunday.. fack mother nature and Tom Crean.
 
Couple questions

I remove about 2/3 of the garlic and onion and then reintroduce it after the meat is cooked and drained. Not a good practice? And secondly, no red wine to cook down with the gravy? It ups the ante to WSOP level. And one more thing. I'm assuming you're using Romas, correct?

This post was edited on 2/26 10:01 PM by hoosierdug
 
That's basic stuff....

...for those of us who know how to cook.

And who learned a lot from their mom growing up......

I don't do the pork though.....
 
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That will work but

i do it a bit differently. I always use ground beef and ground pork. La,b can also be added. Sear the meat a bit in hot olive (not extra virgin - use cheap stuff) for added flavor and texture. The damn Maillard's reaction is magic.

I tend to then throw in finely diced onion for a couple minutes to soften before adding finely minced fresh garlic, which can scorch easily. You can add finely diced carrot and celery too if you'd like.

Then throw in a generous amount of tomato paste and a large can or two of diced or whole (to be broken up later) San Marzano tomatoes. Add some white wine or vodka. The tomatoes have alcohol soluble flavors that will come to the party. Season as you said, only season a bit every step of the way to build layers of flavor. Add bay leaves too. Add some whole milk. Simmer and reduce for a long time. Hours on really low heat to avoid scorching is best. Or in a Dutch oven on low heat covered in the oven.

Cook pasta in salted water (a lot) that tastes like the ocean. Taste after several minutes and remove pasta when it isn't quite a dente (still has bite). Save some pasta water for the starches to thicken the meat sauce.

Add pasta to sauce. Stir with tongs. Add pasta water. Toss. Finnish cooking pasta until al dente and serve. Top with fresh basil, parsley, freshly grated Parmesan cheese, and good quality olive oil. Boom.

This post was edited on 2/26 11:14 PM by PtownHoosier
 
You obviously haven't had them properly baconed up.

Baconed up roasted Brussels sprouts are awesome.
 
I always like..

...just a little brown sugar in my meat sauce. It doesn't take a lot, but it definitely gives the flavor a boost.
 
At least 1/2 pork is a must...

....I usually use about 75% pork and 25% beef.
 
That's good stuff. I want to point something out...

It's not the starchy water, but the undercooked pasta, that is actually thickening your sauce at the end. It sucks water right out of the sauce.

You're absolutely right to cook the onions longer than the garlic. I should have mentioned that.

goat
 
Bacon and brown sugar.

The problem with Brussels sprouts is that 99.9% of people overcook them. Anyone who claims to hate them, I can guarantee it's because they've never had them cooked properly.
 
You're probably right.

but it's nice to have that pasta water on hand if you need it. Mario Batali and others insist the pasta water helps to thicken the sauce and to add starch to help the sauce adhere to noodles, but it could be b.s. like "searing in the juices".

I'm not that anal retentive but whenever I hear chefs like Bobby Flay say crap liking "searing in the juices" it drives me nuts. I want to yell "it's the farming Maillard's reaction, not searing in juices!".

Maybe I've watched too much Alton Brown and Cook's Illustrated, or whatever their show on PBS is called.
 
True.

and they need to be roasted hot. Like 450 to get them nice and browned. Crushed red pepper, kosher salt and pepper are musts. Parmesan cheese and panko bread crumbs at the end are optional.
 
I hear you.

Some TV food people (I won't say "chef" if they don't deserve it) don't know what the hell they are doing. Guy Fieri is the first who comes to mind. Whaddaya gonna do? It could be worse. Remember when Emeril was the best chef you could watch on TV?

goat
 
Yes but I really like Emeril.

i watched him a lot when I was in law school. I learned a lot from him and he really got me in to cooking. He was entertaining and a legit chef as he was the Guy at Commander's Palace for quite a while.

Only later did I learn that his adding raw "essence" after cooking was so frowned upon. Since then I've learned a lot from Steven Raichlen, Bobby Flay, Rick Bayless, Jacques Pepin, Michael Symon, Michael Ruhlman and others. I miss real cooking shows and don't give a crap about cooking competition shows. PBS still has some good options, and I won't lie. Poochie aka Guy Fieri is pretty entertaining on DDD. I won't watch him cook but I like the places he goes to.
 
This is correct. My meat sauce was immediately better when....

I went to a pork/beef mix. I also like to include a pepper (red/yellow/orange).
 
Hey, we agree on something...

...glad to see that you are finally coming around.
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Moops made it with ground turkey and pork the other night

It was really delicious. I would highly recommend trying it.

This post was edited on 2/27 10:13 AM by IUhottie
 
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