Gabe Kupp's Jump Shooting

[Fred C. Dobbs]

i'm a 100% certified Monday morning quarterback.

I attended the Auburn game. On at least 2 misses (probably more) I observed Gabe Cupps launch his jump shot with a "sideways" jump. By sideways I mean that his jump was not straight up and was not on a line with the basket.

Imagine a warship targeting an enemy ship. The gunner has to have a firing solution that accounts for the motion of the warship and the motion of the enemy. This calculation is so complicated that it can only be quickly calculated by a computer.

In basketball the goal doesn't move. The firing solution for the shooter is still quite complicated if his jump is sideways.

Since Gabe is the son of a coach and since the IU coaching staff knows a bit about shooting, I don't understand why this sideways jump hasn't been corrected. I can almost guarantee that if Gabe jumps straight up, his shooting percentage will also go straight up.

Keith Smart's shot was a very difficult shot. I was surprised while watching that he dropped it. Steve Alford, Calbert Cheney, Jorden Hulls, etc. always went straight up.

 

[kkott]

i'm a 100% certified Monday morning quarterback.

I attended the Auburn game. On at least 2 misses (probably more) I observed Gabe Cupps launch his jump shot with a "sideways" jump. By sideways I mean that his jump was not straight up and was not on a line with the basket.

Imagine a warship targeting an enemy ship. The gunner has to have a firing solution that accounts for the motion of the warship and the motion of the enemy. This calculation is so complicated that it can only be quickly calculated by a computer.

In basketball the goal doesn't move. The firing solution for the shooter is still quite complicated if his jump is sideways.

Since Gabe is the son of a coach and since the IU coaching staff knows a bit about shooting, I don't understand why this sideways jump hasn't been corrected. I can almost guarantee that if Gabe jumps straight up, his shooting percentage will also go straight up.

Keith Smart's shot was a very difficult shot. I was surprised while watching that he dropped it. Steve Alford, Calbert Cheney, Jorden Hulls, etc. always went straight up.

He does seem to square himself in the air some, but I'd have to go back and watch to see what you're talking about, and I'm not doing that. Cupps is the least of my worries for this team, as it's obvious all he's going to feel comfortable doing this year is be a solid game manager, and he's already doing that. But, it's also obvious this team needs a couple folks to step up as offensive threats from the backcourt/wing. Almost has to be Mgbako, and then at least 1 of TG, CJ or KB, and while they've each had flashes, I have no idea who else. In my mind, time for your senior captain to step up.

 

[Cavanagh]

He does seem to square himself in the air some, but I'd have to go back and watch to see what you're talking about, and I'm not doing that. Cupps is the least of my worries for this team, as it's obvious all he's going to feel comfortable doing this year is be a solid game manager, and he's already doing that. But, it's also obvious this team needs a couple folks to step up as offensive threats from the backcourt/wing. Almost has to be Mgbako, and then at least 1 of TG, CJ or KB, and while they've each had flashes, I have no idea who else. In my mind, time for your senior captain to step up.

If we don’t have x it is all pointless. We might make the tourney? Might!!! But we will get slaughtered without him.


With him changes this team. He needs to be healthy and play 35 mins a game. But this team looks night and day different with the ball in his hands all game.

 

[Spartans9312]

If we don’t have x it is all pointless. We might make the tourney? Might!!! But we will get slaughtered without him.


With him changes this team. He needs to be healthy and play 35 mins a game. But this team looks night and day different with the ball in his hands all game.

I agree with you this team needs X. Offensively….what game was night and day difference with him having “the ball in his hands all game”?

 

[IUCrazy2]

If we don’t have x it is all pointless. We might make the tourney? Might!!! But we will get slaughtered without him.


With him changes this team. He needs to be healthy and play 35 mins a game. But this team looks night and day different with the ball in his hands all game.

We weren't looking all that great before he went down....

 

[stollcpa]

If we don’t have x it is all pointless. We might make the tourney? Might!!! But we will get slaughtered without him.


With him changes this team. He needs to be healthy and play 35 mins a game. But this team looks night and day different with the ball in his hands all game.

Saturday will be telling if he’s still in a boot.

 

[Cavanagh]

Saturday will be telling if he’s still in a boot.

I plan on reaching out Thursdayish to see where he is at

 

[stollcpa]

I plan on reaching out Thursdayish to see where he is at

I don’t have a good feeling. I hope my feeling is wrong.

 

[Cavanagh]

We weren't looking all that great before he went down....

Doesn't matter how we looked. Watch March 2022. X has proven he can compete ( and win) with elite guards, and help talented players excel.

Could he not do that and not gel? Sure. The point is there is no shot of the current backcourt going to a sweet 16. Got a shot with X. Be a hell of a lot more fun to watch too. X is gonna give you something to watch!!

 

[Cavanagh]

I agree with you this team needs X. Offensively….what game was night and day difference with him having “the ball in his hands all game”?

March 2022. Again, he needs to get on the same page with these guys, but has PROVEN he can be elite.

 

[FormerRevMatt]

March 2022. Again, he needs to get on the same page with these guys, but has PROVEN he can be elite.

March 2022 is a long time ago, though...

But I agree with you. "Good X" is the key to this team and their season.

 

[abraxis]

Saturday will be telling if he’s still in a boot.

The more time X spends in a boot, the more his conditioning suffers. The more his conditioning suffers, the more time it takes him to get back up to sustaining speed. The longer it takes him to get back up to sustaining speed, the more losses IU incurs. The more losses IU incurs, the more disgruntled we become. Get well soon X, for the sake of everyone.

Boots are a dead weight a team has to drag around, it’s weight in wait, keeping a team down.

 

[.Gerdis]

March 2022 is a long time ago, though...

But I agree with you. "Good X" is the key to this team and their season.

And it wasn’t over a sustained period. No doubt that we looked great in Indy coming back versus Michigan, beating IL and we looked good in the L to Iowa, but, we are taking about a three day period.

 

[Willdog7]

Get healthy X, the team needs you. Every game I see Cupps improving,keep working.

 

[IUCrazy2]

Get healthy X, the team needs you. Every game I see Cupps improving,keep working.

It is better to have him then to not, our backcourt needs help. I just don't know if adding him back is suddenly going to make everything click into place. We were disjointed in the games he was able to play in this year too (although to be fair some of that may have reduced as he got more time to play with the new faces).

 

[Harry Hondo]

We weren't looking all that great before he went down....

Yes, but if you recall, two years ago X wasn’t playing well in December, but then turned it on in January and the team improved greatly. He’s the reason they did well in the BTT and made the ncaa tournament in 2022. X has it in him to be a good leader (sorely needed) and playmaker/scorer. If he doesn’t come back and be that, then this team has no chance to be any good.

 

[VanPastorMan]

i'm a 100% certified Monday morning quarterback.

I attended the Auburn game. On at least 2 misses (probably more) I observed Gabe Cupps launch his jump shot with a "sideways" jump. By sideways I mean that his jump was not straight up and was not on a line with the basket.

Imagine a warship targeting an enemy ship. The gunner has to have a firing solution that accounts for the motion of the warship and the motion of the enemy. This calculation is so complicated that it can only be quickly calculated by a computer.

In basketball the goal doesn't move. The firing solution for the shooter is still quite complicated if his jump is sideways.

Since Gabe is the son of a coach and since the IU coaching staff knows a bit about shooting, I don't understand why this sideways jump hasn't been corrected. I can almost guarantee that if Gabe jumps straight up, his shooting percentage will also go straight up.

Keith Smart's shot was a very difficult shot. I was surprised while watching that he dropped it. Steve Alford, Calbert Cheney, Jorden Hulls, etc. always went straight up.

Did you meet a woman named Jennifer from Evansville? She is a huge IU fan and drove to that game in Atlanta.

 

[h20pls]

i'm a 100% certified Monday morning quarterback.

I attended the Auburn game. On at least 2 misses (probably more) I observed Gabe Cupps launch his jump shot with a "sideways" jump. By sideways I mean that his jump was not straight up and was not on a line with the basket.

Imagine a warship targeting an enemy ship. The gunner has to have a firing solution that accounts for the motion of the warship and the motion of the enemy. This calculation is so complicated that it can only be quickly calculated by a computer.

In basketball the goal doesn't move. The firing solution for the shooter is still quite complicated if his jump is sideways.

Since Gabe is the son of a coach and since the IU coaching staff knows a bit about shooting, I don't understand why this sideways jump hasn't been corrected. I can almost guarantee that if Gabe jumps straight up, his shooting percentage will also go straight up.

Keith Smart's shot was a very difficult shot. I was surprised while watching that he dropped it. Steve Alford, Calbert Cheney, Jorden Hulls, etc. always went straight up.

It just seems tough to address a D1 kids shot...the number of shots they've taken to get here...man that seems like a big ask.

 

[mohoosier]

Doesn't matter how we looked. Watch March 2022. X has proven he can compete ( and win) with elite guards, and help talented players excel.

Could he not do that and not gel? Sure. The point is there is no shot of the current backcourt going to a sweet 16. Got a shot with X. Be a hell of a lot more fun to watch too. X is gonna give you something to watch!!

Exactly, at the least he’s another warm body at the guard spot

 

[ams66]

The more time X spends in a boot, the more his conditioning suffers. The more his conditioning suffers, the more time it takes him to get back up to sustaining speed. The longer it takes him to get back up to sustaining speed, the more losses IU incurs. The more losses IU incurs, the more disgruntled we become. Get well soon X, for the sake of everyone.

Boots are a dead weight a team has to drag around, it’s weight in wait, keeping a team down.

For the average person, one month to recover lost strength for each week immobilized. Of course X is young, would be rehabbing intensively and is most likely doing whatever is possible to maintain strength while in the boot. But he won't be 100% for a while, if ever, depending how long he has to wear it.

 

[steelyvan]

The Sundance Kid was a pretty good shooter on the move. But I doubt he was fading away. If GC is really doing this it needs to be addressed. And should not be a tough transition. Could be a real success story.

 

[Coach Geez]

Michigan, beating IL and we looked good in the L to Iowa, but, we are taking about a three day period.

More like a 4 week period. After the NW suspension, the last 12 games (literally 1/3 of a season), Xavier's stat line as followed:

15.7 ppg
4 reb
5.5 asst
2.5/1 A:TO ratio
41% 3p
86% FT

Played like an all-conference guard down the stretch.

 

[Bucket Getter]

It was crystal clear from the day Woody decided to leave an open scholly how vital X was to this year’s success. It’s even more clear now that Newton is done and Gabe has proven he’s got a ways to go.

It almost feels like he’s worn a boot more than 2 Adidas.

 

[Bucket Getter]

More like a 4 week period. After the NW suspension, the last 12 games (literally 1/3 of a season), Xavier's stat line as followed:

15.7 ppg
4 reb
5.5 asst
2.5/1 A:TO ratio
41% 3p
86% FT

Played like an all-conference guard down the stretch.

Even then, that 2.5/1 doesn’t seem that great for your PG.

 

[Coach Geez]

Even then, that 2.5/1 doesn’t seem that great for your PG.

For a college PG it's better than good. Tyler Kolek is widely considered the best PG in college basketball and his A/TO ratio this year is right at 2:1.

 

[Bucket Getter]

For a college PG it's better than good. Tyler Kolek is widely considered the best PG in college basketball and his A/TO ratio this year is right at 2:1.

Ok. If you say so, I’ll buy it. Maybe I’m getting myself twisted up watching Tyrese Haliburton play. Dude has a 12.1/2.2 average this season with a couple games of 15/0. Clearly, he’s on a whole different level than any college PG.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

For a college PG it's better than good. Tyler Kolek is widely considered the best PG in college basketball and his A/TO ratio this year is right at 2:1.

Dang, what would you call Braden Smith’s A/TO ratio of 2.88/1 this season and career 2.4/1?

 

[steelyvan]

Dang, what would you call Braden Smith’s A/TO ratio of 2.88/1 this season and career 2.4/1?

Fortunate to have Edey

 

[rsomm]

Doesn't matter how we looked. Watch March 2022. X has proven he can compete ( and win) with elite guards, and help talented players excel.

Could he not do that and not gel? Sure. The point is there is no shot of the current backcourt going to a sweet 16. Got a shot with X. Be a hell of a lot more fun to watch too. X is gonna give you something to watch!!

Sweet 16 with "X", I think IU is at the point (123 in the Net, 12th in the BT) that they almost have to beat Kansas to have a chance of making the Tournament, right now they have no BUBBLE to burst, IU's computer rankings are bad, plus outside of Purdue the conference has performed really bad. So IU will have trouble finding quality wins in conference.

 

[rsomm]

Dang, what would you call Braden Smith’s A/TO ratio of 2.88/1 this season and career 2.4/1?

Braden Smith is First Team all BT!

 

[Middawg]

Dang, what would you call Braden Smith’s A/TO ratio of 2.88/1 this season and career 2.4/1?

A Fairleigh good stat line.


What do Purdue fans call Smiths 6 or 7 turnover game against Northwestern a little over a week ago?

 

[Hatchets7times]

A Fairleigh good stat line.


What do Purdue fans call Smiths 6 or 7 turnover game against Northwestern a little over a week ago?

Outside of Ware..
I'd trade every IU guy for Smith..

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

A Fairleigh good stat line.


What do Purdue fans call Smiths 6 or 7 turnover game against Northwestern a little over a week ago?

Better than any point guard IU has had since yogi and will have in the coming years.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

Better than any point guard IU has had since yogi and will have in the coming years.

JHS begs to differ: he just hit another mid-range jumper in Mackey. FDU's guards roasted him.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Outside of Ware..
I'd trade every IU guy for Smith..

Y’all could have had him! But Archie didn’t offer after his visit.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

Fortunate to have Edey

End the thread: winner!

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

JHS begs to differ: he just hit another mid-range jumper in Mackey. FDU's guards roasted him.

yeah it was nice to see JHS show up for one game and then be nowhere to be found the rest of the year. Miamis guards roasted him.just like Saint Marys roasted X the year before.

 

[Coach Geez]

Better than any point guard IU has had since yogi and will have in the coming years.

0-2 against IU and looked every bit of a mid-major player in both matchups.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

End the thread: winner!

Hmm if only IU had a player In the front court that was just as good as edey last year…and don’t they have 2 5 stars in the front court right now that could help the guards avg some assists?

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

yeah it was nice to see JHS show up for one game and then be nowhere to be found the rest of the year. Miamis guards roasted him.just like Saint Marys roasted X the year before.

JHS and TJD got drafted: Edey never will.

Say what you will about St. Mary's and Miami, they are no-double digit mid-major. #16