First (2nd) Portal addition coming?...
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Swope and Conwell expected
If Smith and Loyer leave TKR to IU? Not sure. Someone from Purdue.
MM to Oklahoma or Memphis?
Would take a lot to pry away Enright but not a lock. Will be taking his visits to Iowa, ISU and TTU for now.
One of my kids is at Purdue (yes I've failed, but it's only one) and runs in some of the same circles as Smith. Supposedly PU is paying him close to $3M already. Based on their supposed lack of NIL and what Edey was getting last year, I didn't think there was any truth to it. Then talked to a buddy that has a lot of high level PU connections....that's the same number he's been told as well. With that said, I don't think there's any way the kid ends up playing anywhere but PU.
My buddy...that works directly with Painter on many things NIL related... He would say there isn't a set "number" that Smith, or anyone is receiving. And even if there was, there are multi year agreements in place...even agreements that are in place for money, perks, even job opportunities, well after his/their playing days are done. Smith's ENTIRE NIL package might be 3M, or even more than that, but it VERY, VERY likely is NOT an annual set number.
Where Purdue might stay competitive are the longer term portions of their packages. I'm just guessing here...but Kentucky seems like it might focus more on immediate compensation packages. I know that Purdue is setting up partnerships with companies that give players benefits that can last long after they're done playing.
I think Braden Smith has a chance to play in the NBA when he's done in college. But its definitely not a given, at this point. If he's getting a well rounded, 3-5 million dollar overall package from the Purdue NIL efforts, that sets him up for life after college... versus a 4-5 million, more immediate package, that's just money for the year at UK... That's how Purdue will keep him. And I know that's the sort of thing they're working on trying to setup, right now.
UK might be as well. I'm just guessing they're not.
$3M would be most of their NIL budget — doesn’t make sense as you said. He’s probably $750K maybe a $1M. Edey made about $1M (what a steal).
I do think they keep him. He’s weird and just fits PU, sort of like Edey.
A reminder on timing — mid April it really starts going.
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I love posts like that - just good information that gives you a feel for timing because everyone forgets every year. If the tournament only being in the Sweet 16 didn't already tell everyone to hurry up and wait, that post surely does. Thank you for that.
And yet for some reason it was claimed to be critically important to hire CDD when we did rather than wait for the tournament to be over when more coaches would be more willing to talk about other opportunities.
Getting the foundational work out of the way now... so he can attack the portal and assistant coaching pool next week...instead of the following week, or 2 weeks later... because he was hired early... could end up paying big dividends.
I can't speak for people who claimed that. My view is this hire could have been made later and it would have been okay. Of course if our guy was available early on, it has some benefits with this portal.
And it might have been. Obviously.
I don't recall anyone saying it was critical. Only recall that people saying there was 'No reason NOT to wait' ... and they were called out as that being clearly wrong.
For example, Dolson's guy might be coaching at Iowa if we waited. Did Dolson want that? Could he have waited. Sure. Also obviously. But he didn't. And Dolson was in charge. So he must have decided it was beneficial to make the hire when he did.
I am glad our guy is already on the ground running and preparing his program. But, if our guy was still coaching, I would be glad we were waiting.
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Edey was limited in NIL due to visa regulations and being from Canada
Who says they'd be more willing to talk; you? Doesn't sound like Will Wade had trouble talking, or Ben McCollum, Richard Pitino, Sean Miller, or the N TX guy at WVU now. If you think DD is your guy, you should grab him so someone else doesn't, or maybe he decides to accept the extension and you're back in it and now behind. You can watch all these other moves, and think we should have waited 2 more weeks? He's here, he's assembling his staff and roster. That's a huge advantage. You want our program to be behind those and the others that will fall into place over the next 2 weeks and not be locking up our staff and next year's roster. What's your real complaint, because that one is about as thin as they come!
Yeah. If you want more info to base your decision on you wait. If decision is made with no chance of change then the earlier the better,
You would love it to only be 3 mil, but that isn’t reality. Plus rev share comes in now. Purdue likely retains their core and goes shopping. I’d they don’t have money, they aren’t doing either.
If anyone has no idea, it's you.
I actually think PU will retain their core. But they won't be shopping much. I'm sure you'll start crying about this statement like you always do when it comes to PU NIL.
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That would not have stopped KU, UK, UNC, or some SEC school from getting him whatever he asked for.
How do I have no idea? Guess we will see what their portal looks like. I’d guess they have 4 new faces to add next year between two transfers, Benter, and Jacobson (not counting his one game this year). With what should be a top 10 team.
They're not a top 10 team, as is. And their core is old enough, that they won't likely improve enough to be that a year from now, either. They are who they are, unless Jacobson, Benter, whoever they might get as portal additions, etc... change them and make them so.
As much as Purdue fans want Smith, Loyer, and TKR to be leading a B10 and Natty contending program... that isn't gonna happen unless they add a high level player or two.
Cox and Harris are part of their core and not old? Harris is really starting to evolve as a player. He will be a key piece next year. The light is coming on. Cox has looked good as well, though I’d welcome some consistency. Jacobson looked good in his three games and has added weight and it sounds like Benter is playing really well. There is reason to believe they will get better next year, especially if they add a couple pieces. More depth even if they don’t.
Pretty wild that delusional Purdue fans have claimed that last off-season they gave a million bucks in NIL this season to a player that averaged in conference 5 pts and 4 boards in 17 mpg who shot 49% on FG and 51% on FTs.
Even more wild is now the Purdue NIL delusion is that last off-season they gave Braden three million to be the first or second highest paid player in CBB, behind Flagg.
Or, is the claim that after the embarrassing blowout loss to Penn St. in December, Purdue tore up Braden and TKR's NIL off-season contracts to get them brand new NIL deals worth 3 million and 1 million, respectfully?
All the while the school is tearing down their football program and promising NIL to their new football coach.
NIL Delusion U.
Even more wild is now the Purdue NIL delusion is that last off-season they gave Braden three million to be the first or second highest paid player in CBB, behind Flagg.
Or, is the claim that after the embarrassing blowout loss to Penn St. in December, Purdue tore up Braden and TKR's NIL off-season contracts to get them brand new NIL deals worth 3 million and 1 million, respectfully?
All the while the school is tearing down their football program and promising NIL to their new football coach.
NIL Delusion U.
Not that much of an advantage. Get the right coach and everything else falls into place.
we can agree to disagree. Get a jump on your staff and early portal entrants. Might not make any difference, but get the right guy or 2 and an AC and I think it could be very beneficial.
I agree if you already know that CDD is your guy and you're not going to even look at who else might be interested then hire him before someone else does. Many people here thought Dolson should cast a fairly wide net and talk to coaches about their vision for the program and hire the one who had some combination of the best vision and the best history. It doesn't look like that happened, it looks like CDD was the main target all along. But, who really knows?
Harris and Cox "starting to evolve", lights coming on, etc... has led them to largely look like a non NCAA tournament level team the last few weeks.
I think you're fooling yourself if you don't think coaches are "willing to talk" during the season. It sounds to me like he talked with or made contact with: Stevens, TJO, Beard, McCollum (twice), DD in addition to Greg McDermott and I would assume Dusty May. That's a wider net than it seems we've done in past hires and that's not counting unknowns or folks the search firm reached out to.
Not sure you're acknowledging what's happening. Look at all the other hires already made; you think those guys aren't talking beforehand? No one is waiting until their team is done, at least for preliminary discussions. I would think most of them had to have deals pretty well lined out and then a final meeting once their season is done.
Who are Cox, Harris, Jacobson and Benter? Why are we discussing PU basketball? Painter does a great job, they are a top 20 team probably won't be any better next year as I anticipate they loose Colvin to the portal and their star center Furst.
Smith and Loyer will still be below average defenders and I just don't see any additional scoring. I can see a redistribution of scoring but who cares? lol
Those were all rumors from X and other bloggers desperate for clicks and followers, none of them seemed to have any substance. But you're right that does seem to be more and more the approach today. No loyalty. In the past a coach would not transfer to a school in the same conference, and would never focus on anything but the tournament if his team was still playing. Now we have coaches and players transferring before they even finish their season.
What if another school came along tomorrow and offered DeVries an extra $5M over his deal here? Should he talk to them?
Does it matter either way? I think sometimes these negotiations take weeks sometimes days. I'm quite confident Texas had not been in contact with Miller prior to letting their coach go and Xavier probably had not reached out to Pitino Jr before they lost Miller. IU was in a unique position, they had a lame duck coach and most likely could put feelers out prior to the week of but in the end it really doesn't matter.
Yet, they’ve consistently been a top 20 team and are now in the top 16 teams in the tournament. But I agree, it was a down year. But you know I was talking about next year.
Actually they weren't. Jeff Goodman on Field of 68 after dark said they talked to Stevens, McCollum twice, TJO and McDermott. It was another podcast I heard about Beard, although they said they felt that was a cursory interview.
You just made up a bunch of stuff to sound cool. Lol but don’t ask me why Purdue basketball was mentioned. Didn’t bring them up
We'll see... I think Purdue as a consistent "top 10" program, even a consistent top 20 program, became a rational thought only when Zach Edey developed in to the anomalous monster that he did. They, very sparingly, had good years prior to the last couple, but "top 20", let alone "top 10", certainly was not consistent enough to be any sort of expectation.
So their fall from that as this year wore on, was not, at all, surprising to me. They benefitted from pre season rankings bias, and a singular win over Bama...a home win, in a crazy atmosphere, similar to ones IU has had numerous times in the last 15 years. That buoyed them for the entire season basically, despite some bad losses.
They're just as much the team everyone saw against Marquette, Auburn, IU both games, Ohio State, etc... as they are the one that beat Bama, housed Michigan and Rutgers at home, etc... And that's not an obvious top 20 team when taken in totality.
I didn't make anything up, just my opinion this is a message board filled with opinions. Fair enough you didn't bring it up, why are you here? I can tell you I have zero interest in any PU message board. lol
Really! When Iowa would’ve hired him. I know some of you wish that so you could get the great Ben McCollum. Get over it.
Purdue was 4-4 vs sweet 16 teams, so you are missing a couple here good wins, but why can’t Purdue elevate their program? Seems they are. I was told without Edey, smith works suck, TKR couldn’t be all big ten, and Purdue wasn’t a top 25 team. Seems to me painter has elevated the roster and sustained success beyond Edey is more probable than prior. Has also proven guards can thrive under his system, which I was told they can’t either. So…
I’ve explained why I read here. But then again, people can’t handle Purdue in my name. I can be talking about iu and people change the subject.
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