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Firing teachers because of not calling

Students by their government name without concent of the parents.


My whole school would have been fired because of me. I'm not sure half the teachers even knew my real name ince the first week was over.

Seems kind of petty to me.
She’s definitely cute. If I just saw her pic and “Florida teacher…”, I’d assume she was doing one of her male students. Some lucky-ass 16-17 year old boy that would definitely screw it up by telling a bunch of people. It’s always the little hottie teachers that do that shit.
 
Considering how quickly people were to accuse some of those folks of child abuse, I just don't think that's true. Parents don't always have primacy. Some parental behavior and decisions are simply beyond the pale.

Sure, if there’s any criminality involved, that changes matters. I’m assuming there isn’t.
 
Sure, if there’s any criminality involved, that changes matters. I’m assuming there isn’t.
The parents this forum condemned as child abusers didn't commit any crimes.

Seriously, this example is absurd for a reason. You can't apply broad rules unless they also work for absurd situations. Imagine a child whose parents are pushing to embrace gender fluidity or some other such similar thing, and the child is not comfortable with it, and wishes to only be known as a boy (or a girl, as the case may be), and the teacher agrees to refer to the child in the way the child prefers. The parents object. Do you side with the parents? I highly doubt it. I doubt any of us would.
 
That's tough shit for the teacher who admitted to breaking the law. Doesn't matter how many kids sign a petition or how many parents shed a tear. She did what she thought was right and now she pays the price.

When it comes to kids, parents should do what they believe is the best for them, regardless of what anyone else thinks. They're not the people's children, they're the children of those 2 parents. Their responsibility is to the children's well being, within the existing legal framework. I'd argue legal framework be damned if I didn't agree with it, but that's a different thread.
There is no legal penalty. Seems the district’s punishment is arbitrarily harsh. A written reprimand and a warning of termination if it continues would be appropriate.
 
There is no legal penalty. Seems the district’s punishment is arbitrarily harsh. A written reprimand and a warning of termination if it continues would be appropriate.
They didn't renew her contract that was set to end. Wouldn't even call that punishment. Probably had been advised that was the easiest, most low friction, least liability option.
 
They didn't renew her contract that was set to end. Wouldn't even call that punishment. Probably had been advised that was the easiest, most low friction, least liability option.
Clearly a punishment. They are effectively firing her and taking away her income. No hint that she hasn’t been a good teacher for several years on year to year contracts. She teaches AP classes too.
 
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Clearly a punishment. They are effectively firing her and taking away her income. No hint that she hasn’t been a good teacher for several years on year to year contracts. She teaches AP classes too.
Losers all around. The children and various parents are protesting.
 
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"Because my daughter's name is Michelle, not Mike, regardless of what she says. We're dealing with the situation as a family and don't need you encouraging what we believe to be the wrong side of that family issue."

Something like that.
This is too complicated. I'll wait until Stevie Nicks weighs in.
 
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Clearly a punishment. They are effectively firing her and taking away her income. No hint that she hasn’t been a good teacher for several years on year to year contracts. She teaches AP classes too.
Hard to think anyone would argue this wasn't a punishment but politics clouds a lot of topics (for some). If hooky was in this teacher's shoes, then I think he might be thinking differently on the matter.

Not renewing may sound better and made the process easier for the administration but the end result is the same as being fired.
 
Students by their government name without concent of the parents.


My whole school would have been fired because of me. I'm not sure half the teachers even knew my real name ince the first week was over.

Seems kind of petty to me.
 
Hard to think anyone would argue this wasn't a punishment but politics clouds a lot of topics (for some). If hooky was in this teacher's shoes, then I think he might be thinking differently on the matter.

Not renewing may sound better and made the process easier for the administration but the end result is the same as being fired.
I wouldn't be in her shoes, because A) I wouldn't have ran afoul of a well publicized law and B) I wouldn'thave the hubris to think I could supercede a parent's lawful decisions about their child. They also continue to pay her through the end of her contract. Cry harder.
 
I wouldn't be in her shoes, because A) I wouldn't have ran afoul of a well publicized law and B) I wouldn'thave the hubris to think I could supercede a parent's lawful decisions about their child. They also continue to pay her through the end of her contract. Cry harder.
I am sure you never jaywalk or went over the speed limit. Mr perfect citizen lmao
 
I am sure you never jaywalk or went over the speed limit. Mr perfect citizen lmao
Great comparison. One is a choice made by me that affects only me, the other is a choice made by a third party authority figure that affects a minor and the minor's parent(s).

You don't understand why it's a parental issue and actually think the parents should have no control over what happens with it at school. I get it. We're not going to agree.
 
Great comparison. One is a choice made by me that affects only me, the other is a choice made by a third party authority figure that affects a minor and the minor's parent(s).

You don't understand why it's a parental issue and actually think the parents should have no control over what happens with it at school. I get it. We're not going to agree.
Why do you think your speeding doesn't affect other people?
 
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Great comparison. One is a choice made by me that affects only me, the other is a choice made by a third party authority figure that affects a minor and the minor's parent(s).

You don't understand why it's a parental issue and actually think the parents should have no control over what happens with it at school. I get it. We're not going to agree.
You are right, we won't agree.

Parents are likely suffering from transphobia and their behavior is only going to lead the kid to needing therapy.
 
Why do you think your speeding doesn't affect other people?
Jaywalking was what I was referring to, but sure speeding too.

What's the fascination with 3rd parties pushing minors towards life changing decisions like "I'm trans"? That doesn't affect others?
 
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You are right, we won't agree.

Parents are likely suffering from transphobia and their behavior is only going to lead the kid to needing therapy.
Therapy should be in play the minute your child says they are trans. Or they want to hurt themselves. Or they want to vote for more government in their life.
 
Jaywalking was what I was referring to, but sure speeding too.

What's the fascination with 3rd parties pushing minors towards life changing decisions like "I'm trans"? That doesn't affect others?
Who is pushing anyone to be trans?

The kid came up with their preferred name. Not the teacher or anyone else.

Maybe you should quit believing the conservative bogeyman
 
Who is pushing anyone to be trans?

The kid came up with their preferred name. Not the teacher or anyone else.

Maybe you should quit believing the conservative bogeyman
The kid came up with his or her preferred name. The kids may come up with their preferred names. The use of the plural they, them and their has made our language more confusing and less precise.
 
Who is pushing anyone to be trans?

The kid came up with their preferred name. Not the teacher or anyone else.

Maybe you should quit believing the conservative bogeyman
Nothing to do with conservative or liberal. I don't want a government employee in my family life at all, but sice some level of involvement is inevitable, I want it to leave as small of a negative mark as possible.
 
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The kid came up with his or her preferred name. The kids may come up with their preferred names. The use of the plural they, them and their has made our language more confusing and less precise.
Just for you, Aloha:

 
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Nothing to do with conservative or liberal. I don't want a government employee in my family life at all, but sice some level of involvement is inevitable, I want it to leave as small of a negative mark as possible.
Calling somebody by their preferred name is called being respectful of their wishes. Has nothing to do with your family life (in this instance, seems like mentally abusing the kid at home)
 
I feel bad for your kids if that level of concern is your standard.
Being respectful to them...so horrible. Your post makes zero sense given I am the one here supporting the kid. Refusing to use their preferred name isn't going to make them less trans. Just will make them feel unsupported and alone.

Want to defend your lack of concern? Or just going to hide behind your transphobia as a defense?
 
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