Firing teachers because of not calling
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That’s lame af. Put on some slacks or at least lulu pants you candy ass (not you, Homer)
When I was young, on the first day of school, the teacher took roll, and after you said "here," asked, "and what do you go by?" I don't see why that's not still appropriate.
Absolutely. For instance the absolute right to be called what he wants. 😉
Parents and kids alike are protesting the teacher’s planned termination. She cared and was human. Meanwhile the law is flawed and inhumane.
“The men who wrote the law don’t know what the little girls understand. “
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That's tough shit for the teacher who admitted to breaking the law. Doesn't matter how many kids sign a petition or how many parents shed a tear. She did what she thought was right and now she pays the price.
When it comes to kids, parents should do what they believe is the best for them, regardless of what anyone else thinks. They're not the people's children, they're the children of those 2 parents. Their responsibility is to the children's well being, within the existing legal framework. I'd argue legal framework be damned if I didn't agree with it, but that's a different thread.
I basically agree. Personally.
I also see that children don’t really have any rights unless so afforded by the good graces of their parents.
Explains exactly why so many rebel.
They also beat your ass if you did something deserving of that punishment. When you try to normalize idiocy you end up with idiocy
Because he had to get tough or die. I do know the point of the song. A deadbeat Dad did what he could to help out.
It still would be, so long as the kid’s parent would agree were they sitting there. Obviously, it’s only an issue when they wouldn’t.
There have been some tug-of-wars between schools and parents involving kids transing. And Florida is just asserting that their teachers have to recognize the parents’ legal standing.
I’m not exactly sure that you got my point.
If they were “just asserting” that it would would be okay. They doing more than just and that’s what strikes me as not just (different definition 😉).
To paint my point more clearly, I hope, the law delegates the child’s right of name choice in everyday use unilaterally to his parents.
We all know why.
It’s an example of creating a law to prevent certain things from happening with a broad enough brush to interfere with the rights and well being of others.
Take child labor laws, for example. There to “protect” children. Problem is, some children are precocious, sensible and able enough to want to join the workaday world at a very young age. It’s actually the sanest thing a youngster can do if not abused in the process. The law doesn’t care about infringing on such human rights.
In the sanest of worlds adults wouldn’t feel the need to abridge children’s rights.
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Truthfully, parents should have the final say. I have a friend that only uses James. In his case, it matched his mother's wishes. But if he had asked to be Jim, do we think a teacher would be fired for not using the parental choice? The law should be applied evenly.
Does it count coaches? I have heard coaches call players decidedly non-gicen legal names.
Does it count coaches? I have heard coaches call players decidedly non-gicen legal names.
I get that. There's a fear that teachers will affirm a gender identity in school that parents are fighting at home, causing confusion. Still tough for me, though, to ask teachers to refuse to call students what they want to be called. Maybe instead if disrupting rearing at home, we disrupt education at school. Just seems like there's no winning move.
That’s why, to me, this Is just a question of primacy. Who should prevail when there’s a conflict: the parents or the state?
And I don’t think that’s difficult to answer. It won’t solve the underlying conflict, of course. In fact, it will likely only make it worse. But that’s a family matter and the state ought not get involved.
The best answer is for both sides to talk. But you are right, primacy has to lie with the parents.
Had a 4th grade teacher who had been on earth for over eight decades. She simplified name calling by calling all boys "Bird" and females as "Girl".
Exact identification as to whom she was addressing was made possible by her finger pointing.
Doubt she would be confused by the current trans fever epidemic.
As to parents, just like my parents, most of them were familiar with her as she once taught them.
Oh for the good ole days when we had world wars and not wars with each other.
This all reminds me of a great scene in a great movie:
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The parents.
I had great teachers. I also grew up in the 90s so my parents and teachers were friends. I have friends who are teachers.
Today is different. Government is a disease that's infected people and education as a byproduct. It's a product of the people and people suck ass.
SS, you really struck a chord with me when you wrote, " Government is a product of the people, and the people suck" (excuse my paraphrasing).
The notion of "government by and for the people" (democracy) does seem to be under siege at home and abroad these days.
Often wonder why this didn't happen years ago. Possibly it didn't occur before this as we were too busy standing up for our democracy against such alternatives as facism, communism, and Islamic terrorism.
I really like what you post.
You seem honest and bring levity.
I truly believe smartphones and social media are destroying this world. This ties with your last paragraph.
Ill be 40 next Friday. If I'm lucky that's half my life. I've lived a life before the social media internet world. We are too connected. My degree is in biology. I understand the laws of nature. Undefeated. Human psychology too.
Social media will destroy us if we don't stop it. Old testament story of Babel. God separated us and gave us different languages for a reason.
Im an old earth creationist, believe in God of your own and a nihilistic person.
My guess is that this would not be a problem with the majority of teachers. But you’ll always have some who insist on crossing that line - thinking they’re doing the right thing for a student.
lol, I remember the days when the teacher would give you a spanking then
call your parents. My dad always said, if you get a spanking at school you
are going to get another one when you get home. Those were the days
when there were very few behavior problems at school.
The only time I got whacks, I was more worried about getting them from Dad when I got home than actually getting them at school.
Maybe. But imagine a reverse hypothetical. Remember those stories posted here in the past about the parents who seemed to be basically encouraging their young children to be trans? Imagine it's their kid, and the kid is starting to feel uncomfortable with who their parents want them to be. So we expect the teachers to take the parents' side? I don't think that would be the case. For good reason.
The principal called my dad at work when i was in high school. That was a big mistake. My dad told him don’t EVER call him at work again unless I was in the hospital. And then only if I was dying. But you call my work again my son’s behavior will be the very least of your worries.
Then he told the principal that if I was being bad at school he had his Permission to suspend me, tie me to the desk, tape my mouth shut, beat me, run me over with his car and he will never hear a word of complaint from him over whatever discipline he chose
And the whole McM picture becomes a little clearer...
My best friend has been a teacher in Tennessee for 20 years.
I thought about it in college so I could coach football and basketball, no.
Have had a lot of conversations with him. I dont have the personality for it. Can't be a police officer either. Don't have the personality for that either.
Both are tough jobs. Boundaries are critical.
People are the problem. Spiritual guidance is necessary.
I was in about 3rd or 4th grade and they brought in the PE teacher.
He picked the kid and the desk up and took him to the principals office.
I was in about 5th grade and was roped to the desk with my mouth taped. My best friend (started edibles co) was roped to his desk and had his mouth taped. Was going nuts pretending he had to go the bathroom. Teacher untied him and he ran across the room and punched me in the head. Then went back to his desk to get tied back up
We tell my daughter stories about our youth and she can’t believe it. My dad left early for Vietnam. He’d have been a junior in high school
Catholic schools are different.
My dad married a Catholic woman. Had to convert.
Im non demoninational for a reason
My dad married a Catholic woman. Had to convert.
Im non demoninational for a reason
Parents still have primacy. It’s crossing a line for a teacher to get involved.
