Your original point was to a name that the student preferred and that's what I addressed.
Firing teachers because of not calling
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Not hickory but thanks for the compliment.
Not an extension of parenting. Exactly. Teachers are not there to argue about the student's name so they should call them by their PREFERRED NAME so they can get on with teaching.
This argument has nothing to do with corporal punishment. Nice try trying to assume other opinions on people.
This is the conservative version of "woke". Just as if not more stupid than the lefts version.
Can we just go back to not giving a shit about stuff like this? No one really cares. People just like to be seen looking like they care. When deep down no one does.
Can we just go back to not giving a shit about stuff like this? No one really cares. People just like to be seen looking like they care. When deep down no one does.
Let’s just call this what it (most likely) is. A whack job teacher trying to socially transition a student against the parents wishes.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Not at all. If kids want to call other kids their preferred names, I dont really care. Teachers that want to get involved in it are an entirely different story.Uh-huh. I see that tapping out.
We had a guy that saw the jerk and he wanted to be called Iron Balls McGinty for a year or so. We obliged. A teacher calling him that wouldn't have gone over well. Kids have a name and teachers should use it. The fact that there had to be a law to force it to happen is the bigger issue.
You made the point that teachers aren't there to put up with poor parenting choices. What if a district's policy is corporal punishment solves the poor parenting choices that caused the misbehavior?
The point is you're not the parent. You're the teacher. You don't get to make those kinds of choices that openly contradict a parent's decision. We're here because there are some teachers and administrators that do that.
As far as home schooling, how about you let me take my share of student funding and then I can home school or put my kid in a school that won't call Michelle Mike?
I see two sides to this issue.
On one side the teacher evidently knowingly and admittedly violated the law. A teacher should be a role model and in a civil society that includes obeying the laws of society.
On the other side, Republican politicians, the ones making such laws, starting with the titular head of the Republican Party, Donald Trump, model willful civil disobedience at every turn and reinvent the truth on daily whims.
Houston, we have a problem.
On one side the teacher evidently knowingly and admittedly violated the law. A teacher should be a role model and in a civil society that includes obeying the laws of society.
On the other side, Republican politicians, the ones making such laws, starting with the titular head of the Republican Party, Donald Trump, model willful civil disobedience at every turn and reinvent the truth on daily whims.
Houston, we have a problem.
Maybe that's the one pronoun everyone can agree on?
For some reason, Adam Sandler's movie Big Daddy popped into my head.
Why can't we all just let our kids let them choose their own names? If they want to be Frankenstein, God damn it, let them be Frankenstein.
Why can't we all just let our kids let them choose their own names? If they want to be Frankenstein, God damn it, let them be Frankenstein.
This is really more about keeping parents in charge of their minor children. I wouldn’t call teachers defying parents “civil disobedience.”
Students by their government name without concent of the parents.
Florida teacher is first known to be fired for using student’s preferred name without parents’ consent
“Since the state will be reviewing her teaching certificate based on these actions, the district decided not to renew the annual contract until the issue is resolved with the state,” th…nypost.com
My whole school would have been fired because of me. I'm not sure half the teachers even knew my real name ince the first week was over.
Seems kind of petty to me.
I agree w/ you though. I assume it was a trans name issue. If a parent got mad b/c Ms. Calhoun called Jordan by Jordi or something, the parents should get eviscerated.
If I had a kid I'd have it say its preferred name was Mussolini or Ghengis Kahn and give consent. Then bitch if they refused.
I was at a very formal event with Homer drew tonight. He had on a quarter zip and bball shoes
I agree w/ you though. I assume it was a trans name issue. If a parent got mad b/c Ms. Calhoun called Jordan by Jordi or something, the parents should get eviscerated.
The way you’re using “in charge of their minor children” is weird to me. As if minor children are mindless automatons until reaching adulthood. We’re not talking about medical decisions here. We’re talking about the name of an individual. But even more fundamentally, we’re talking about human rights for a child. What rights do children have? At all?
My view of raising children as a parent having raised two to full adulthood, is that my responsibility is to increase their responsibility gradually until when they leave home, they are fully responsible for themselves.* What you’re talking about sounds like the children get zero responsibility unless their merciful parents grant them an iota or two.
Again, we’re not talking about medical decisions here.
* Note I consider myself rather conservative when it comes to parenting. For example, I told my daughter that she could get pierced ears, but that under no circumstances was she allowed to pierce any other part of her body until she was 18. And zero tolerance for tattoos of any sort until she was 18. I didn’t want her to make any basically irreversible decisions that she would regret later on.
Nothing in what I’m saying compels you to do anything different than you want to regarding your children…or anybody else with theirs.
Keep in mind that a teacher is the state. And who has primacy here? It’s not the kid - they’re a minor.
So it’s either the parents or the state. And that’s an easy call. To be sure, if you as a parent say that they can call themselves whatever they want and have the teachers do that too, that’s fine. The point is you being able to make that call.
I’m not referring to the teacher’s actions as civil disobedience. She broke the law. Knowingly as reported. I don’t think her goal was civil disobedience. She simply disagrees with the law and considers it in humane. The point I’m making on that side of the story is that we live in a civil society. If she’s going to work in a state that has that law, she needs to abide by it.
Exactly. In other words, in your concept of civil society, as a minor a child has no rights. Zero. Nada. Goose egg.
To me that’s as far from civil as conceivable. When my firstborn entered this world, I accepted the Truth that she was first and foremost a human being with inalienable rights.
What about the mothers rights? She carried and birthed the kid with adoption being an exception.
Kids need boundaries. So do teachers. The name may be a simple thing but it's also a matter of discipline and respect for the people who bear the brunt of the work and foot the bill.
No, minors have rights. But when it comes to legal matters, minors are still minors - and still have to defer to their parents.
Now, if there’s a legal emancipation in force, that’s a different matter. But I gather that isn’t the situation here.
But it’s only a legal matter because the Republican Florida law was created the way it was. That’s the second side I presented.
So you’re right that the law protects a parents’ control over their minor children. My point is that the law also cedes (perhaps unintentionally) all the child’s rights to the parent(s). After all, what isn’t a legal matter for minor children under this law?
Good friend of mine in college had the given name Fernette. She went by Fred. A lot of people didn’t even know her given name. Even in high school, she was Fred.
Discipline and respect? So only parent approved nicknames should be permitted?
This is all pathetically petty.
I agree it's all petty. Which is why I made an earlier post about what I'd do if I had a kid.
If it was over a nickname even more dumb but the posted article was pretty vague.
I'm guessing most involved need other shit to focus on. The parents for example, should probably be using this energy to work off 30+ pounds of fat they're packing around.
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6A-1.0955To strengthen the rights of parents and safeguard their child’s educational record to ensure the use of the child’s legal name in school. A local procedure will be developed for a parent to specify any deviation from the .
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What the actual **** does this mean?
Punctuation is important for a reason.
Vol. 49/124
View TextDevelopment
6A-1.0955To strengthen the rights of parents and safeguard their child’s educational record to ensure the use of the child’s legal name in school. A local procedure will be developed for a parent to specify any deviation from the .
Here's the text.
What the actual **** does this mean?
Punctuation is important for a reason.
So if a boy was named Sue then that is his legal name but it doesn't make him a girl.
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