Firing teachers because of not calling

[Baller23Boogie]

Students by their government name without concent of the parents.

Florida teacher is first known to be fired for using student’s preferred name without parents’ consent

“Since the state will be reviewing her teaching certificate based on these actions, the district decided not to renew the annual contract until the issue is resolved with the state,” th…

nypost.com

My whole school would have been fired because of me. I'm not sure half the teachers even knew my real name ince the first week was over.

Seems kind of petty to me.

 

[Bowlmania]

Students by their government name without concent of the parents.

Florida teacher is first known to be fired for using student’s preferred name without parents’ consent

“Since the state will be reviewing her teaching certificate based on these actions, the district decided not to renew the annual contract until the issue is resolved with the state,” th…

nypost.com

My whole school would have been fired because of me. I'm not sure half the teachers even knew my real name ince the first week was over.

Seems kind of petty to me.

WTAF?!

 

[outside shooter]

would...

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

I don’t have a problem with this. And I think we both know that what’s going here bears no resemblance to teachers simply not knowing your name.

I’m 100% in favor of keeping parents of minors in their rightful place - rather than schools overstepping their bounds.

When we were bringing our kids up, there was no doubt with their schools and teachers who was in charge. And it wasn’t them. We were deputizing them.

But this is one of the benefits of private schools. We have to choose them and pay them. And they know full well we could unchoose them any time we wanted.

 

[outside shooter]

So if my legal name is Thomas and I go by "Tom", to call me Tom the teacher first has to get parental approval?

 

[Palmbeachhoosier]

So if my legal name is Thomas and I go by "Tom", to call me Tom the teacher first has to get parental approval?

No if your name is John and the teacher calls you Joanna. That is the issue.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

No if your name is John and the teacher calls you Joanna. That is the issue.

Is that what the law says? I thought it said one must use their legal name.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Is that what the law says? I thought it said one must use their legal name.

That’s basically what he’s saying.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

That’s basically what he’s saying.

If your birth certificate name is Edward, but you go buy Ted, what is your "legal" name. A quick Google says it is the name on birth certificate or legal documents. If those say Edward, it seems to me Ted is in violation.

 

[hookyIU1990]

What a poorly written article. Sounds like the student is female but preferred a name associated with males, but you have to get there by assumption.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

If your birth certificate name is Edward, but you go buy Ted, what is your "legal" name. A quick Google says it is the name on birth certificate or legal documents. If those say Edward, it seems to me Ted is in violation.

Yes. Have you ever filled out a document that says full name and then there is a space for preferred name? I sure have.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Yes. Have you ever filled out a document that says full name and then there is a space for preferred name? I sure have.

Oh the tyranny

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Students by their government name without concent of the parents.

Florida teacher is first known to be fired for using student’s preferred name without parents’ consent

“Since the state will be reviewing her teaching certificate based on these actions, the district decided not to renew the annual contract until the issue is resolved with the state,” th…

nypost.com

My whole school would have been fired because of me. I'm not sure half the teachers even knew my real name ince the first week was over.

Seems kind of petty to me.

I bet $ that you preferred being called Felicia, didn't you.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

would...

Studies have proven that, no. NO you wouldn't. Ever.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

Yes. Have you ever filled out a document that says full name and then there is a space for preferred name? I sure have.

No point in asking for a preferred name. Using it may get someone fired

 

[Baller23Boogie]

I bet $ that you preferred being called Felicia, didn't you.

Worse...

Boogie

 

[hookyIU1990]

No point in asking for a preferred name. Using it may get someone fired

The parents are the ones filling out the enrollment forms. That's the difference. They're giving written consent to use that name.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

The parents are the ones filling out the enrollment forms. That's the difference. They're giving written consent to use that name.

Why would it matter if a kid has a preferred name?

Unless the kid is writing a curse word as their preferred name, wgaf

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Worse...

Boogie

Get this,
I once worked with a guy that told me that his step dad gave him the nick name, "Rectum".
I know being a step dad is hard, butt damn!

 

[Victorbmyboy]

No point in asking for a preferred name. Using it may get someone fired

No. That’s the issue. The preferred name wasn’t preferred by the parents.

 

[SqueakyClean]

Ohio is trying to pass a similar law but in reverse. The teacher may use the name on your birth certificate and if they refuse to call the student by their preferred name, there are no repercussions, even if both the student and the parents want the teacher to use the preferred name.

 

[outside shooter]

No if your name is John and the teacher calls you Joanna. That is the issue.

But the law is specific- legal name only, no exceptions, without clearing it first with the parents

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

No. That’s the issue. The preferred name wasn’t preferred by the parents.

Then the parents should talk with their kid.

I have no issue with teachers using the KID's preferred name.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Then the parents should talk with their kid.

I have no issue with teachers using the KID's preferred name.

But this isn’t about you. I find the story odd. What’s odd is people think this is the only reason she was let go. I’d bet there is more to this. Like maybe she has pushed boundaries of some sort for years.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

Yes. Have you ever filled out a document that says full name and then there is a space for preferred name? I sure have.

 

[sweetsilence]

Anytime I see something like this I can't help but think there were other issues with her and since this law exists was used as a pretense to cut some chaff.

The student requested being called that but parents notified the school. Something doesn't add.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

But this isn’t about you. I find the story odd. What’s odd is people think this is the only reason she was let go. I’d bet there is more to this. Like maybe she has pushed boundaries of some sort for years.

What's it matter if it is about me? No individual parent should get to decide if using preferred names is legal/illegal for the entire country/state. We are all allowed our opinion on the matter (even though our opinion amounts to **** when it comes down to it)

There may be more to the story (likely is) but I think teachers should able to call kids by their preferred name and not be in fear that the kid's parents can get them fired.

 

[All4You]

Get this,
I once worked with a guy that told me that his step dad gave him the nick name, "Rectum".
I know being a step dad is hard, butt damn!

Middle name Darnednear and surname Killedem?

 

[All4You]

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[Joe_Hoopsier]

Middle name Darnednear and surname Killedem?

 

[hookyIU1990]

Why would it matter if a kid has a preferred name?

Unless the kid is writing a curse word as their preferred name, wgaf

"Because my daughter's name is Michelle, not Mike, regardless of what she says. We're dealing with the situation as a family and don't need you encouraging what we believe to be the wrong side of that family issue."

Something like that.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

"Because my daughter's name is Michelle, not Mike, regardless of what she says. We're dealing with the situation as a family and don't need you encouraging what we believe to be the wrong side of that family issue."

Something like that.

And if your daughter wants to be called Mike, then we will call her Mike.

You can deal with it all you want. And if she wants to change what she is called later, then great.

That's how it SHOULD go.

 

[hookyIU1990]

And if your daughter wants to be called Mike, then she should be called "Mike".

You can deal with it all you want and if she changes her mind, we will change what we call her.

That's how it SHOULD go.

Then my reply might be something like, "You should stick to raising your own kids and I'll raise mine. Michelle is not your child."

 

[hoosboot]

"Because my daughter's name is Michelle, not Mike, regardless of what she says. We're dealing with the situation as a family and don't need you encouraging what we believe to be the wrong side of that family issue."

Something like that.

While we're at it, should we suspend students for calling the student the name the student prefers even if their parents don't approve?

 

[hookyIU1990]

While we're at it, should we suspend students for calling the student the name the student prefers even if their parents don't approve?

I don't see how you could. The kids aren't in any kind of position with authority, unlike the teacher/staff members.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

Then my reply might be something like, "You should stick to raising your own kids and I'll raise mine. Michelle is not your child."

then home school your kid. We aren't an extension of your poor parenting choices. our job is to teach your kid, not fight with them about their preferred name.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Yep, in my old township if a child’s legal name is Christopher and he wants to be called Chris, you have to get written permission from the parents to do so.

 

[hookyIU1990]

then home school your kid. We aren't an extension of your poor parenting choices. our job is to teach your kid, not fight with them about their preferred name.

I keep forgetting you're Hickory.

As a teacher, you're not an extension of anything parenting related without the express consent of that parent. You are there to teach the kid and not argue about their name, so stick to the teaching part.

Sounds like you'd be in favor of corporal punishment regardless of parental consent.

 

[hoosboot]

I don't see how you could. The kids aren't in any kind of position with authority, unlike the teacher/staff members.

A school has wide latitude for enforcing rules that establish an orderly learning environment. The school would certainly intervene of a bunch if kids were calling another student a name the student didn't want to be called. And the kids have a much higher impact on the encouragement that the parents are concerned about than the teacher, particularly in high school.

"We're dealing with the situation as a family and don't need you encouraging what we believe to be the wrong side of that family issue."

Just trying to see how seriously we take this issue.

 

[hoot1]

Students by their government name without concent of the parents.

Florida teacher is first known to be fired for using student’s preferred name without parents’ consent

“Since the state will be reviewing her teaching certificate based on these actions, the district decided not to renew the annual contract until the issue is resolved with the state,” th…

nypost.com

My whole school would have been fired because of me. I'm not sure half the teachers even knew my real name ince the first week was over.

Seems kind of petty to me.

Had a male business partner named Lorlys ( middle name Edgar).

As a teenager he told his father he wanted to be called Bill. His father said, "You can call yourself whatever you want".

From then on his legal name was Lorlys, but everyone called him Bill. Am sure this included his teachers.

These days, why do our politicians and their laws have to make life so complicated?