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Dustin Dopirak on potential IUBB coaching candidate pool shrinking

Yes that's true but would u hire a kid right out of college to be the CEO of your company.
Awful example.

Better one is a guy that has a decade long resume of driving incredible growth, profit, market share improvements at smaller companies…then stepped up to an already successful multi billion dollar company, and immediately had them more profitable than they’d ever been in their history.

Then, at that point, a historically strong Fortune 500 company, who’s been struggling for the better part of 2 decades, comes calling looking for new direction.

That’s fairly common. IU isn’t Apple. And McCollum isn’t some intern right out of college.
 
If you think that the a couple of idiots that root for IU and make death threats is an indictment of the entire fanbase, then you’ve been living under a rock. This goes on in sports all the time at numerous colleges. It’s more prevalent now due to the nature of social media but this has been going on for decades. A good portion of it is tied to betting where people lose money on the outcomes of player’s performances. Don’t make out IU problems with success to be a result of fans.
Then what is the reason big time coaches avoid IU?
 
Very few coaches are going to say anything bad about another coach in a press conference. Of course he's not going to say "Woodson really didn't come close to the goals IU had to return the program to relevance" he's going to say some shit about unreasonable fans so that he can can maintain good relations within the coaching fraternity.
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If we keep eliminating any more Coaches from the search, we're going to have to get Teri Moren to coach the Men's team as well. VBG
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Why in the last cycle did "big time" coaches avoid UK, UNC and Duke?
All three were previous players and didn't two of them have no head coaching experience?
20 years...not 1 cycle.

If IU is a desirable job, coaches wouldn't avoid it. Yet, nobody can explain why they do?....

Psstt...Painter told you 3 weeks ago.
 
20 years...not 1 cycle.

If IU is a desirable job, coaches wouldn't avoid it. Yet, nobody can explain why they do?....

Psstt...Painter told you 3 weeks ago.
WTH are you talking about.

Those three schools have gotten new coaches recently. Why didn't they make the "BIG" hire?

Are their fans complete garbage or whatever you called the IU fan base.

You do realize that if you are an IU fan, you are also talking about yourself too?
 
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Then what is the reason big time coaches avoid IU?
I’m not sure any “big time” coaches are avoiding IU? The guys that are the top coaches in college basketball right now weren’t all big names for the duration of all the past IU hires. Some were not even head coaches.

There is a guy out there who would probably crawl across broken glass right now to come here. He’s not avoiding IU.
IU just has to have the balls to hire him.
 
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If he’s smart and mature beyond his years, yes. But the “kid” we’re talking about here in this debate has been out of college for 20 years and been head coaching for 15 of those.
Brownell and McCollum are very close if you look at the numbers both offensive and defensive efficiency both elite top 50.
 
Fatjohns*. And there is no chance million dollar donors tell him shit. Hell, there are probably only 5 of those alive.
Correct. The donors are not in these conversations. You only know what you know as a FACT. Hence, maybe that is why incorrect reports that Chris Beard was back in play, (only to be walked back a week later) and now Bryson Tucker had entered the portal, only to have Tucker himself refute that, are still being sent out.
 
Correct. The donors are not in these conversations. You only know what you know as a FACT. Hence, maybe that is why incorrect reports that Chris Beard was back in play, (only to be walked back a week later) and now Bryson Tucker had entered the portal, only to have Tucker himself refute that, are still being sent out.


Some of the replies...
 
Most big time coaches are pretty happy with where they are. Once you get a train rolling you don't jump off.
Pretty much why if you are going to get a bigger name to move its going to be one with some baggage. Guys like pitino, wade, sampson, beard , sean miller, etc. Guys who had issues but then took other jobs
 
Correct. The donors are not in these conversations. You only know what you know as a FACT. Hence, maybe that is why incorrect reports that Chris Beard was back in play, (only to be walked back a week later) and now Bryson Tucker had entered the portal, only to have Tucker himself refute that, are still being sent out.
I know two of the million dollar donors, or should I say my wife does I've held off having her call them and ask. lol

Seriously I do know two and they are extremely close to Dolson, lobbied for him to get the job, but I doubt they know anything. This will all be over soon and if IU does IU things there will be an let down. If we get McCollum we will be lucky and that is saying something since by all accounts he should have been way down the list.
 
20 years...not 1 cycle.

If IU is a desirable job, coaches wouldn't avoid it. Yet, nobody can explain why they do?....

Psstt...Painter told you 3 weeks ago.
Interesting thought, at least to me. Matt Painter was a successful coach at the MVC level and then Purdue hires him as the transition coach to Keady. Steve Alford was a successful MVC coach and chose to go to Iowa. IF... somehow Alford never goes to Iowa before CBK was let go, Alford is probably hired at IU. I would wager that he would have cleaned up in recruiting Indiana kids and the fanbase would have loved him. I think he would have had the same or better success as what Painter has had.

I'm not saying he would be my guy this hiring cyle (see Chris Beard) but IU basketball would have been much better over the past 25 years.
 
Interesting thought, at least to me. Matt Painter was a successful coach at the MVC level and then Purdue hires him as the transition coach to Keady. Steve Alford was a successful MVC coach and chose to go to Iowa. IF... somehow Alford never goes to Iowa before CBK was let go, Alford is probably hired at IU. I would wager that he would have cleaned up in recruiting Indiana kids and the fanbase would have loved him. I think he would have had the same or better success as what Painter has had.

I'm not saying he would be my guy this hiring cyle (see Chris Beard) but IU basketball would have been much better over the past 25 years.
Other than recruiting Indiana, we had Alford when we had Crean. He would have been fired, and it would have been very ugly.
 
yeah 25 looong freaking years.

davis
sampson
crean
archie
woodson.......

history has crean looking more and more favorable

SD...please get it right this time
When Glass let Crean go, if someone had told me that they were from the year 2025 and we were canning the most successful coach IU would have in the first quarter of the 21st century, I would have ordered a double of whatever they were drinking. If I knew it was true, I would have kept ordering them until I blacked out and didn't remember the conversation.
 
When Glass let Crean go, if someone had told me that they were from the year 2025 and we were canning the most successful coach IU would have in the first quarter of the 21st century, I would have ordered a double of whatever they were drinking. If I knew it was true, I would have kept ordering them until I blacked out and didn't remember the conversation.
Bob Kravitz was saying we were insane to fire crean and I was laughing at him at that time.
 
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