Dust May postgame comments

[T.M.P.]

Been to a final four with nobody.

Martin, Davis and Goldin. We might not have known their names before it happened, but each of them now start or did start for a major conference team. If he had nobody then we are disregarding the development that turned each of them into somebody ...

Either way he gets credit .. development is a huge part of coaching that's been missing at IU since Crean, and he was inconsistent. No one in their second year with the coach became better under Miller, and only TJD did under Woodson.

The current concern with May is his teams consistently blowing big leads .. he may lack tactically. Of course that's much better than getting blown out constantly.. and at least his teams aren't boring to watch.

 

[Warison]

And you admitted you are a tired, old lazy thinker that just wants to jump on the jock of any former IU connection because Warison wants to sniff on the fumes of 40 years ago. That’s the only reason lazy thinkers like yourself zero in on May. Because he has some “IU connection.”

Newsflash: IU basketball sucks. The whole enterprise needs a fresh reboot. You just think that the only solution is an IU guy. You were the same type on here doing cartwheels when Woody was hired because he played here.


Think outside the box.

Unhinge much? Sorry I hurt your feelings. It’s ok. We’ll move on.

Squeaky Mickey Mouse voices inside your head is a ‘you problem’ .

If the dude was .500 in the league showing no clue how to run a BIG program I’d be right there with you.

But I’m not gonna handicap the guy for being from 19 minutes from Bloomington and in contention of winning a big ten title. His first year in the league.

No reason to get all defensive with the old, tired, lazy thinking dumb response. That’s as in the box thinking as you get.

 

[IUHoopster]

Exactly what I stated in the post. Saw you went through quite a few threads to act like a smartass tonight. If you were trying to make an ass of yourself, mission accomplished fella.

Okay, Post Avenger. Challenging me and arguing against the obvious. Impressive. If you don't like a reply, scroll on.

 

[jopajackson]

Okay, Post Avenger. Challenging me and arguing against the obvious. Impressive. If you don't like a reply, scroll on.

Ok, Message Board rule maker. Try reading a post before making assumptions. I posted the video because I felt like people here would be interested in hearing what he said. Personally, I think it means nothing. Which is why I jokingly said to “overanalyze what he said and look for tea leaves.”

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[77 grad]

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Video of his full answer.

you mean there's a chance?

 

[Crusty The Baker]

I think IU hiring Dusty would be like Purdue hiring Matt Painter with a few years of seasoning and less risk. We’d probably enjoy solid teams for the next 20 years or so.

I would be happy with any solid teacher of the game who has no history of assault or abuse.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

He's looking for Dusty May with a beard.

You better say alll the right prayers tomorrow, Pastor! The next hire has to be right. We’re counting on you.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

Unhinge much? Sorry I hurt your feelings. It’s ok. We’ll move on.

Squeaky Mickey Mouse voices inside your head is a ‘you problem’ .

If the dude was .500 in the league showing no clue how to run a BIG program I’d be right there with you.

But I’m not gonna handicap the guy for being from 19 minutes from Bloomington and in contention of winning a big ten title. His first year in the league.

No reason to get all defensive with the old, tired, lazy thinking dumb response. That’s as in the box thinking as you get.

Tell me this (and I do apologize for going back at you) but……

I’m really curious your line of thinking? What does being “19 minutes from Bloomington” have to do with any of this? Why is that a factor? What if IU guy got a good coach that was 1900 minutes from Bloomington? Is that a negative in your book?

 

[Warison]

Tell me this (and I do apologize for going back at you) but……

I’m really curious your line of thinking? What does being “19 minutes from Bloomington” have to do with any of this? Why is that a factor? What if IU guy got a good coach that was 1900 minutes from Bloomington? Is that a negative in your book?

Our next hire could be an alien from space. If that alien proved he won in space, I’m open.

Now… can you imagine that alien actually being 19 minutes away from the Mecca and in contention of winning the the big ten in his first year, while rebuilding a roster.

And he’s a young alien with years to go….

It’s not like what he’s doing is a roster of veterans gifted to him. Michigan finished near last a year ago.

Dude is competing. And he’s young. And he had ties. What’s not to like?

 

[ANOTHERBANNERYEAR]

Our next hire could be an alien from space. If that alien proved he won in space, I’m open.

Now… can you imagine that alien actually being 19 minutes away from the Mecca and in contention of winning the the big ten in his first year, while rebuilding a roster.

And he’s a young alien with years to go….

It’s not like what he’s doing is a roster of veterans gifted to him. Michigan finished near last a year ago.

Dude is competing. And he’s young. And he had ties. What’s not to like?

So if you’re good with an alien that’s won in space, then what about the other younger coach that has really won a lot in Division II and continues to win a lot in Division I. When Cignetti was winning last year, many were saying IU’s competition wasn’t that good. He stated IU can only play the teams that are on the schedule. Same with McCollum, his team can only play the games that are scheduled…and guess what, he and his players are doing their part to be the best. If Drake makes the tournament and gets blown out in first or second round, then I’ll reconsider whether I believe the guy should get the chance at IU.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

Our next hire could be an alien from space. If that alien proved he won in space, I’m open.

Now… can you imagine that alien actually being 19 minutes away from the Mecca and in contention of winning the the big ten in his first year, while rebuilding a roster.

And he’s a young alien with years to go….

It’s not like what he’s doing is a roster of veterans gifted to him. Michigan finished near last a year ago.

Dude is competing. And he’s young. And he had ties. What’s not to like?

I’m just wary of his time in the position of head coach. I know I made the comments about his “personality” and that shouldn’t factor in at all. I do agree with you there. That wasn’t meant to be the main factor of my comments. I like coaches who have spent time, 10+ years head coaching with several years of success. Dusty is in his 7th year as a head coach and 4 of those years were pretty mediocre. Maybe he’s developing and will be the next Coach K or RMK that we’d all kick ourselves for missing out on? Or, maybe he’s like a Tom Crean who also only had 8 years under his belt before IU and one magical run to the Final 4? The parallels in their tenures at FAU and Marquette are eerily similar. May’s first 4 years at FAU were pretty bad. But credit where credit is due, his last 2 were good.
Crean had a .664 record at Marquette and those first years looked an awful lot like May’s at FAU, where he finished .646.

That parallel makes me nervous.

 

[ANOTHERBANNERYEAR]

So if you’re good with an alien that’s won in space, then what about the other younger coach that has really won a lot in Division II and continues to win a lot in Division I. When Cignetti was winning last year, many were saying IU’s competition wasn’t that good. He stated IU can only play the teams that are on the schedule. Same with McCollum, his team can only play the games that are scheduled…and guess what, he and his players are doing their part to be the best. If Drake makes the tournament and gets blown out in first or second round, then I’ll reconsider whether I believe the guy should get the chance at IU.

I admit May is doing a pretty good job with Michigan, but IU could have had a chance to get him. He’s in his first year and making pretty good $. I just don’t see him wanting to make the move to IU this soon. Plus he would have to start all over again with the dumpster fire IU is at right now.

 

[trailrunner]

I’m just wary of his time in the position of head coach. I know I made the comments about his “personality” and that shouldn’t factor in at all. I do agree with you there. That wasn’t meant to be the main factor of my comments. I like coaches who have spent time, 10+ years head coaching with several years of success. Dusty is in his 7th year as a head coach and 4 of those years were pretty mediocre. Maybe he’s developing and will be the next Coach K or RMK that we’d all kick ourselves for missing out on? Or, maybe he’s like a Tom Crean who also only had 8 years under his belt before IU and one magical run to the Final 4? The parallels in their tenures at FAU and Marquette are eerily similar. May’s first 4 years at FAU were pretty bad. But credit where credit is due, his last 2 were good.
Crean had a .664 record at Marquette and those first years looked an awful lot like May’s at FAU, where he finished .646.

That parallel makes me nervous.

Tom Crean had a future HOF player on his roster

 

[trailrunner]

I admit May is doing a pretty good job with Michigan, but IU could have had a chance to get him. He’s in his first year and making pretty good $. I just don’t see him wanting to make the move to IU this soon. Plus he would have to start all over again with the dumpster fire IU is at right now.

He started this season with the worst team in the league.

 

[HurryinHoosiers]

Wow, so clearly he wants it, he wants it bad. Holy sht.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

He started this season with the worst team in the league.

people are dumb, may should have been hired last year, hes not coming now. cronin aint my best friend but were involved in a horseownership group , with pitino, he wants the job , beard wanyts the job. be surprised howmany coaches have the same agent. i think beard is dolsons 1st choice , if he doesnt get cleared mick will be our coach next year, and he will do a helluva job

 

[Thcgh]

Cool story bro. But why? Can you give any reason why? Or is it more of a feeling thing?

Ok so let’s talk success and IU DNA. Which coach has taken two big conference bottom dwellers to the elite status? Whose background is directly influenced by RMK and who has more influence from Davis, Rupp et al?

 

[Thcgh]

And you admitted you are a tired, old lazy thinker that just wants to jump on the jock of any former IU connection because Warison wants to sniff on the fumes of 40 years ago. That’s the only reason lazy thinkers like yourself zero in on May. Because he has some “IU connection.”

Newsflash: IU basketball sucks. The whole enterprise needs a fresh reboot. You just think that the only solution is an IU guy. You were the same type on here doing cartwheels when Woody was hired because he played here.


Think outside the box.
IU basketball is a joke right now. Dolson isn’t going to use your narrow minded approach….Thank God!

I prefer TTU influence… does that meet your criteria? 😎

 

[CriticArisen]

Funny. All this talk about moral failings and Cuban a godfather of above reproach IU basketball. Look at Cuban’s history in Bloomington. I don’t hold it against him but hypocrisy for the burn in hell with no chance of redemption crowd.

 

[CriticArisen]

You better say alll the right prayers tomorrow, Pastor! The next hire has to be right. We’re counting on you.

We are screwed in that case with coaching but it will be someone darn well suited for the clergy.

 

[CriticArisen]

And you admitted you are a tired, old lazy thinker that just wants to jump on the jock of any former IU connection because Warison wants to sniff on the fumes of 40 years ago. That’s the only reason lazy thinkers like yourself zero in on May. Because he has some “IU connection.”

Newsflash: IU basketball sucks. The whole enterprise needs a fresh reboot. You just think that the only solution is an IU guy. You were the same type on here doing cartwheels when Woody was hired because he played here.


Think outside the box.
IU basketball is a joke right now. Dolson isn’t going to use your narrow minded approach….Thank God!

I hope he has balls enough to do it.

Many of these fans don’t have championship aspirations. Get a couple highly rated players and make the tournament and they will be happy enough and this board will be full of posters arguing ad infinitum about our wonderful coach and wait till next season. Participation trophy for making the tournament is good enough. No one admits to it now but just prior to this season many here said something like-Well he isn’t the greatest coach but with our NIL it’s gonna be a good season.

If he had won a couple more games and made the tournament this year, but out in the first round, many would say-Wait til next season, he ain’t the best coach but it’s gonna be good with our NIL.

In the last twelve years or so the IU presidents have changed, the AD’s have changed, the coaches have changed, but disastrous basketball results and IU fans clamoring for angelic coaches and a five star player have remained constant. Really the clamor for an angelic coach started all this off with RMK. The fire and brimstone crowd is strong in this one.

Persecuting others with no chance for redemption, and also misstating facts, was strong at the Salem Witch Trials and strong now in IU fandom.

 

[CriticArisen]

kkott has set out the most reasonable process on here. Have a list of candidates and do due diligence on your candidates without pre-conceptions and interference from fan noise and donor noise and make a decision. Announce your decision and the reasons for deciding so as appropriate.

 

[benhyoung14]

How many coaches have had the same response the day before they accepted their next job?

That being said, I think any offer is contingent on how the rest of the season goes for Michigan. If they end up winning the B1G, and making the sweet 16 in his first year, you offer atleast $5M/yr and complete control with heavy incentives. You go to the Simon's and Ferguson and say....you pushed to keep Woodson. Pony up the money for the right coach.

If he doesn't finish the season well, or doesn't accept, you go to plan B. We know Beard can coach but how true are any anger and domestic violence problems. Charges dropped or not, nobody wants another angry coach. You have to do your do diligence there. If not Beard then who? McCollom, Brownell, Shaka, the coaches with huge buyouts, or the coaches pushing 60? Whoever it is, has to have a history of coaching teams that are fundamentally sound teams. Regardless of age, it has to be the right coach. This wouldve been easy if this was 2024. No question it would be May.

 

[UTFO]

Persecuting others with no chance for redemption, and also misstating facts, was strong at the Salem Witch Trials and strong now in IU fandom.

I believe in 2nd chances, etc. Doesn't mean Beard doesn't come w risk.

Our University isn't out of line for having reservations about Beard. Some here just want to give him the job b/c he was at Tech w bobby, which is (sigh) NOT what we need.

Know I've said this before: but I have not forgotten the T Tech gear being sold at the gas station by where I grew up off Stop 11/135...during the weeks Davis took us to the F4. That was Tim and Karen's brainchild.

And let's not forget who was Knight's biggest supporters then: the loopers and their "mumbles" takes. Suing IU on behalf of RMK bc RMK couldn't keep his shit together. Turning the fanbase on itself, and RMK was only too happy to see it. IU versus RMK. RMK v IU.

Time to cut bait w that thinking, if IU is to thrive.

 

[CriticArisen]

I believe in 2nd chances, etc. Doesn't mean Beard doesn't come w risk.

Our University isn't out of line for having reservations about Beard. Some here just want to give him the job b/c he was at Tech w bobby, which is (sigh) NOT what we need.

Know I've said this before: but I have not forgotten the T Tech gear being sold at the gas station by where I grew up off Stop 11/135...during the weeks Davis took us to the F4. That was Tim and Karen's brainchild.

And let's not forget who was Knight's biggest supporters then: the loopers and their "mumbles" takes. Suing IU on behalf of RMK bc RMK couldn't keep his shit together. Turning the fanbase on itself, and RMK was only too happy to see it. IU versus RMK. RMK v IU.

Time to cut bait w that thinking, if IU is to thrive.

I appreciate the sincerity of your comments but just disagree as to the nature of the albatross. I believe it wasn’t RMK that led to this but rather it is the thinking that led to RMK’s dismissal and that has prevailed since is the albatross. You mention it, the idea that IU basketball is bigger than the coach and will be successful no matter who you plug in. I believe much of the thought at the time of RMK’s dismissal was-Who does he think he is. He needs to be put in his place and we will win without him.

That thinking hasn’t worked out and it seems to me continues until today and the current guise is NIL. Our NIL is so good that we will be successful with just a decent coach. I had coaches with anger issues and was fine with it because I believed they were working in the best interests of the team. The important thing was not how I felt but how we did as a team.

Outstanding coaches don’t conform to some simple set of rules. They have their own approach that works for them and likely doesn’t work for others. There isn’t some simple formula that you can follow. That is why being hypercritical of coaching candidates, and expecting some rigid profile, has high risk in my opinion.

If Dolson does evaluate candidates in good faith and conducts due diligence without preconceptions then that is the best I can hope for. I will support his decision and see how it plays out but if he starts with preconceptions and goes to the default candidate that minimizes criticism then much less patient with how it plays out.

 

[Pryght]

Wow, so clearly he wants it, he wants it bad. Holy sht.

What does he want bad, a raise and extension from Michigan? In that situation, only an absolute moron would have said no.

 

[Pryght]

I believe in 2nd chances, etc. Doesn't mean Beard doesn't come w risk.

Our University isn't out of line for having reservations about Beard. Some here just want to give him the job b/c he was at Tech w bobby, which is (sigh) NOT what we need.

Know I've said this before: but I have not forgotten the T Tech gear being sold at the gas station by where I grew up off Stop 11/135...during the weeks Davis took us to the F4. That was Tim and Karen's brainchild.

And let's not forget who was Knight's biggest supporters then: the loopers and their "mumbles" takes. Suing IU on behalf of RMK bc RMK couldn't keep his shit together. Turning the fanbase on itself, and RMK was only too happy to see it. IU versus RMK. RMK v IU.

Time to cut bait w that thinking, if IU is to thrive.

As unpalatable as it may be, we shouldn't have fired Sampson...and should hire Beard.

 

[Mustangar]

As unpalatable as it may be, we shouldn't have fired Sampson...and should hire Beard.

The NCCA gave him a 5 year band I believe

 

[Walt542]

May is not coming to IU. He said long before he got the UM job that he didn’t want the unreasonable expectations of the IU job. He is in the perfect situation. Lots of money but not the pressure of the IU job. I hope Dusty gets a big raise from Um out of this though.

 

[Wiedersehen]

Ha yea. Only one response possible from him on this question.

Well, he could have said “I’m flattered, but no, I’m not interested”. Instead he was about as vague as could be… which means he’s interested.

 

[Pryght]

Well, he could have said “I’m flattered, but no, I’m not interested”. Instead he was about as vague as could be… which means he’s interested.

No, it could easily mean he wants a contract extension and raise.

 

[Pryght]

May is not coming to IU. He said long before he got the UM job that he didn’t want the unreasonable expectations of the IU job. He is in the perfect situation. Lots of money but not the pressure of the IU job. I hope Dusty gets a big raise from Um out of this though.

Dusty not taking the Louisville job is further evidence that you may be correct.

 

[Pryght]

The NCCA gave him a 5 year band I believe

Mariachi?

 

[Vern Pain]

They played, grown men, Purdue at the worst possible time after a loss to OSU at home. It’s one of Michigan 2 losses.

Again, go watch the end of their tournament game against Northwestern last season. Watch that, then watch the ends of IU Maryland and IU Purdue this year. It's uncanny.

Their offense yesterday in the second half was as lifeless as anything IU has done of late.

Like I said,.If IU hires him, I hope it ends up being a home run.

 

[jmp7819]

Ask in this order:
Stevens (got to at least ask)
Beard
McCollum
May

BEARD 👍👍👍

 

[ANOTHERBANNERYEAR]

He started this season with the worst team in the league.

And hense another reason as to why he wouldn’t jump Michigan ship so quickly

 

[trailrunner]

And hense another reason as to why he wouldn’t jump Michigan ship so quickly

Your reasoning was that he would have to repair a dumpster fire. He just made chicken salad out of chicken sh1t in one season. Apparently he has that capability. And he negotiated an incredibly low buyout for some unknown reason.