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Did Cignetti's Words Fire Up OSU?

We can't have it both ways.

We be all in for a coach who makes all these statements about this team sucka and that team sucks and then cry about a team scoring on us in the final minute of a game that we had every opportunity to stop.

Loser mentality.
exactly,

guaranteed it was bulletin board material but cigs bravado has served us well this yr. who'd thought we would even be in games like this with all the national attention?

if you dish it you have to be able to take it. they won...credit to them

that doesn't mean it still wasn't a pussy move to end the game like that. o$u and fans are way too obnoxious/classless to ever take the high road.

that's not the last time we'll meet, we will play again and I'll also guarantee cc reminded day when they shook hands that he won't forget it....

on to the next game AT HOME where we have the opportunity to make statement of our own. I hope we take advantage.....

and finally, that last td didn't mean sh!t as far as playoffs/ranking are concerned. everybody and their grandmother could see it for what it was
 
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With losses by Colorado, Mississippi, Alabama and BYU, it looks like Indiana will still make the twelve team NCAA football playoffs unless they stumble badly against Purdue. But I hope that Coach Cignetti learned a valuable lesson. You never say that any opponent sucks and you especially don't do that if your opponent is OSU. I have never heard of better bulletin board material than that if you are OSU. The only good thing about yesterday is that OSU now considers IU a worthy opponent but Cignetti needs to eat some humble pie and just shut up.
I don’t think something Coach said 9 months ago makes a bit of difference. I think the fact that we were rated number 5 and were undefeated possibly added to the motivation. But most likely, the fact that they have all 5 stars and 4 had more to do with it.
 
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We can't have it both ways.

We be all in for a coach who makes all these statements about this team sucka and that team sucks and then cry about a team scoring on us in the final minute of a game that we had every opportunity to stop.

Loser mentality.
I don’t care about them scoring. I care about them getting into victory formation and then running it in. Did they think they had to run a trick play? That’s definitely bush league.
 
With losses by Colorado, Mississippi, Alabama and BYU, it looks like Indiana will still make the twelve team NCAA football playoffs unless they stumble badly against Purdue. But I hope that Coach Cignetti learned a valuable lesson. You never say that any opponent sucks and you especially don't do that if your opponent is OSU. I have never heard of better bulletin board material than that if you are OSU. The only good thing about yesterday is that OSU now considers IU a worthy opponent but Cignetti needs to eat some humble pie and just shut up.

he was just riling up the crowd during Midnight Madness. He said PU and Mich suck too.

which they do.
 
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I don’t care about them scoring. I care about them getting into victory formation and then running it in. Did they think they had to run a trick play? That’s definitely bush league.
Somebody on X last night, associated with OSU or close to the program in some way ... said the locker room is not happy with Day making Henderson take a knee on his 32 yard run so Howard could do his little act in the end zone after scoring.
 
No, OSU had 8 guys who could be in the NFL now, come back for 3 goals. 1. To beat Michigan 2. To win the Big Ten 3. Win a National Title. The end of the game was a shot at IU but the beating was focus on a goal that without a victory over IU they wouldn’t have been able to achieve. It was more about the narrative that Day and OSU can’t win top 5 matchups or that he’s a terrible coach. The guy was literally a missed targeting call on MHjr or missed FG vs Georgia from a NC.

Look, I hope this becomes a rivalry! Is Day is dick? Maybe but Cig is too. I’m 32 and my entire life, Hell… My father’s entire life, OSU has been a national title contender. To become a rival means you are their equal.
Are you an IU undergrad but OSU post-grad?
I think you indicated that before?

Anyway, yesterday was my first trip over there in decades. The stadium itself….hasn’t changed a bit. The concourses under the stands are absolutely disgusting. I was shocked. I thought there would be some kind of amenities and overhaul but they looked like they haven’t invested a dime since 1940. Dirty. Pipes running overhead. Terrible lighting. The people at the concessions were ver, vety nice but the concession “stands” if you want to call them that, were tiny. Essentially cutouts in the side of the walls. The interior guts underneath the stands were absolutely archaic and not what I expected from a top shelf football school. I have been overly critical of Memorial Stadium and things like the t.v.’s but The Shoe and it amenities, or lack thereof, make IU’s stadium look like the Ritz-Carlton. I mean, it was mind boggling how bad it is there. Seating is fine but the aesthetics need a ton of work.
 
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Are you an IU undergrad but OSU post-grad?
I think you indicated that before?

Anyway, yesterday was my first trip over there in decades. The stadium itself….hasn’t changed a bit. The concourses under the stands are absolutely disgusting. I was shocked. I thought there would be some kind of amenities and overhaul but they looked like they haven’t invested a dime since 1940. Dirty. Pipes running overhead. Terrible lighting. The people at the concessions were ver, vety nice but the concession “stands” if you want to call them that, were tiny. Essentially cutouts in the side of the walls. The interior guts underneath the stands were absolutely archaic and not what I expected from a top shelf football school. I have been overly critical of Memorial Stadium and things like the t.v.’s but The Shoe and it amenities, or lack thereof, make IU’s stadium look like the Ritz-Carlton. I mean, it was mind boggling how bad it is there. Seating is fine but the aesthetics need a ton of work.
Yes, I am. I agree about Ohio Stadium. The suites and club seating are very nice though and they are adding a private lounge for members next year. The WiFi works great but the stadium itself is just that. I like it though. You can feel the history in it. People used to say the same thing about St. John arena and then they built the Schott and it now they complain that it’s too corporate and professional feel, not college. Remember, Ohio Stadium is over 100 years old. Remodeling the inside and bathrooms though would be a good idea though. There’s a few really good food options in the stadium. For instance near our seats yesterday they have a stand that makes very good burgers. You just have to look. I also like that they have beer and food vendors that come around too.

I sat with my brother and family. He has 4 season tickets and his father in law has 4 together in 26 A. He (my brother’s father in law) sold his Michigan tickets for $3400.
 
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exactly,

guaranteed it was bulletin board material but cigs bravado has served us well this yr. who'd thought we would even be in games like this with all the national attention?

if you dish it you have to be able to take it. they won...credit to them

that doesn't mean it still wasn't a pussy move to end the game like that. o$u and fans are way too obnoxious/classless to ever take the high road.

that's not the last time we'll meet, we will play again and I'll also guarantee cc reminded day when they shook hands that he won't forget it....

on to the next game AT HOME where we have the opportunity to make statement of our own. I hope we take advantage.....

and finally, that last td didn't mean sh!t as far as playoffs/ranking are concerned. everybody and their grandmother could see it for what it was

Generally speaking, I agree with the post.

The post-game handshake seemed anti-climactic. I’m not a great lip reader, but Cignetti seemed to take the high road and offer congratulations.

Ryan Day’s pre-game admonition to his team “to leave no doubt” was arrogantly par for the course not to mention the various end of game antics. Seems like an insecure bunch given the $20 million payroll.

Nevertheless, OSU was the better team, yesterday.
 
exactly,

guaranteed it was bulletin board material but cigs bravado has served us well this yr. who'd thought we would even be in games like this with all the national attention?

if you dish it you have to be able to take it. they won...credit to them

that doesn't mean it still wasn't a pussy move to end the game like that. o$u and fans are way too obnoxious/classless to ever take the high road.

that's not the last time we'll meet, we will play again and I'll also guarantee cc reminded day when they shook hands that he won't forget it....

on to the next game AT HOME where we have the opportunity to make statement of our own. I hope we take advantage.....

and finally, that last td didn't mean sh!t as far as playoffs/ranking are concerned. everybody and their grandmother could see it for what it was

Agree, for the last few decades IU didn't even rate a mention on an opponent's bulletin board so nice to be there if we were.
 
With losses by Colorado, Mississippi, Alabama and BYU, it looks like Indiana will still make the twelve team NCAA football playoffs unless they stumble badly against Purdue. But I hope that Coach Cignetti learned a valuable lesson. You never say that any opponent sucks and you especially don't do that if your opponent is OSU. I have never heard of better bulletin board material than that if you are OSU. The only good thing about yesterday is that OSU now considers IU a worthy opponent but Cignetti needs to eat some humble pie and just shut up.
Not nearly as much as the gift touchdown resulting from the careless mistakes by Evans and Bomba .
 
Like you, I’m generally not big on coaches shooting off their mouths, but I don’t have an issue with it here. Cignetti has already explained that he made this (and other) bold statement early in his tenure in an attempt to fire up a downtrodden and indifferent fan base, and to generate interest in the program. It worked and, damn, with the exception of yesterday’s result, he’s been able to back up the brash talk.

OSU’s final series yesterday may have sent a message, but Cignetti’s comments last winter had nothing to do with yesterday’s special teams fvck-ups, falling behind, and State teeing off on a QB they knew was going to throw.

Beat Purdue!
I agree with the comment being made before the season started so it shouldn’t be cause to rile their fanbase. However, thanks to social media, it’s been replayed all season long as if it was said the night before the game. That said, we all had it instilled in our brains at a young age, “Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words…words are all I need to make me want to kick your ass!”
 
Yes, I am. I agree about Ohio Stadium. The suites and club seating are very nice though and they are adding a private lounge for members next year. The WiFi works great but the stadium itself is just that. I like it though. You can feel the history in it. People used to say the same thing about St. John arena and then they built the Schott and it now they complain that it’s too corporate and professional feel, not college. Remember, Ohio Stadium is over 100 years old. Remodeling the inside and bathrooms though would be a good idea though. There’s a few really good food options in the stadium. For instance near our seats yesterday they have a stand that makes very good burgers. You just have to look. I also like that they have beer and food vendors that come around too.

I sat with my brother and family. He has 4 season tickets and his father in law has 4 together in 26 A. He (my brother’s father in law) sold his Michigan tickets for $3400.
Their restrooms are as bad as I've seen. There was a noticeable sense of desperation at the stadium yesterday, especially in the first half, and OSU was over the top even by their standards. Ryan Day knew that he would be terminated if he lost yesterday and obviously couldn't control himself.
 
With losses by Colorado, Mississippi, Alabama and BYU, it looks like Indiana will still make the twelve team NCAA football playoffs unless they stumble badly against Purdue. But I hope that Coach Cignetti learned a valuable lesson. You never say that any opponent sucks and you especially don't do that if your opponent is OSU. I have never heard of better bulletin board material than that if you are OSU. The only good thing about yesterday is that OSU now considers IU a worthy opponent but Cignetti needs to eat some humble pie and just shut up.
C'mon Man. He's explained his reasoning that he basically sensed IU had accepted a losers mentality and he was tired of it. He's a smart guy, but he ain't perfect. That's a stretch. Cignetti wasn't here and said nothing about OSU sucking and yet we'd lost to them, what, 29 straight times? We're 10-1, and likely as hell to be 11-1 and in the college football playoffs, and you want to complain about something he said last January? I guess if you want to find something to complain about, you did, but the guy has taken us to a level no one would have thought possible in 1 friggin' year. I think we can forgive something as minor as that.

Besides, he wasn't lying!
 
C'mon Man. He's explained his reasoning that he basically sensed IU had accepted a losers mentality and he was tired of it. He's a smart guy, but he ain't perfect. That's a stretch. Cignetti wasn't here and said nothing about OSU sucking and yet we'd lost to them, what, 29 straight times? We're 10-1, and likely as hell to be 11-1 and in the college football playoffs, and you want to complain about something he said last January? I guess if you want to find something to complain about, you did, but the guy has taken us to a level no one would have thought possible in 1 friggin' year. I think we can forgive something as minor as that.

Besides, he wasn't lying!
Yep, IU fb is on it's greatest run in our lifetime & this guy is complaining because of something CCC said 10-months ago. There's at least "one" in every crowd. :(
 
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With losses by Colorado, Mississippi, Alabama and BYU, it looks like Indiana will still make the twelve team NCAA football playoffs unless they stumble badly against Purdue. But I hope that Coach Cignetti learned a valuable lesson. You never say that any opponent sucks and you especially don't do that if your opponent is OSU. I have never heard of better bulletin board material than that if you are OSU. The only good thing about yesterday is that OSU now considers IU a worthy opponent but Cignetti needs to eat some humble pie and just shut up.
OSU is a superior team/program. They had a 99.9% chance of beating us regardless. Outcome would’ve been the same even if Cig said something like “I like you guys and I hope we can be friends!”
 
One of Cignetti’s assistants noted how his head coach’s “calculated” nature means that whatever he says, he means:

“What I’ve seen is that he’s telling people he had to get this place excited. He knows that he’s said things to get people excited. He did it because he knew he needed to set an expectation. Who would come in and say Ohio State and Michigan sucks, after you say Purdue sucks? Only him. To me, that’s calculated. That’s why we were able to beat Michigan — because he’d already come in on Day One and said, ‘F— these guys!’ You’ve got to think about what that means to a kid who has never beaten Michigan.”
 
But it was okay for you when Knight brought Jack the Donkey on his show to make an ass out of Purdue, right?

C’mon.
Context here. He said this stuff at a basketball game to rile up a crowd. He knows both of those programs and their tradition. He doesn’t truly think this.

IU has tried the “gentleman’s approach” before and all of this LEO. shit and welcoming in opponents like rolling out the red carpet. That’s not sports. Sports is all about being nasty and disliked. The game has changed. Like it or not, society now thrives in trash talk and social media taunts. Got to play the game the way it’s played now.


as our technology evolves, our humanity and civility disappears. as does our "manliness".

we are teaching ourselves to become 100% confrontational without the actual confrontation. i can't think of anything weaker.

and the destructiveness of it over the next couple decades will be very evident.
 
C'mon Man. He's explained his reasoning that he basically sensed IU had accepted a losers mentality and he was tired of it. He's a smart guy, but he ain't perfect. That's a stretch. Cignetti wasn't here and said nothing about OSU sucking and yet we'd lost to them, what, 29 straight times? We're 10-1, and likely as hell to be 11-1 and in the college football playoffs, and you want to complain about something he said last January? I guess if you want to find something to complain about, you did, but the guy has taken us to a level no one would have thought possible in 1 friggin' year. I think we can forgive something as minor as that.

Besides, he wasn't lying!
But even on Saturday's game day broadcast, 90 minutes before kickoff, he said "Google Me. I
Win. "Enough with that especially at that time. I am sure that Day and the Buckeyes were listening. Sometimes, it is best to just shut up and show your toughness on the field. That was one such time.
 
But even on Saturday's game day broadcast, 90 minutes before kickoff, he said "Google Me. I
Win. "Enough with that especially at that time. I am sure that Day and the Buckeyes were listening. Sometimes, it is best to just shut up and show your toughness on the field. That was one such time.
OSU’s pregame prep does not include watching GameDay.

It’s up to you if you don’t like it, but this is a weak critique of a guy who could win 11 games at IU and maybe get coach of the year honors. Good grief.
 
But even on Saturday's game day broadcast, 90 minutes before kickoff, he said "Google Me. I
Win. "Enough with that especially at that time. I am sure that Day and the Buckeyes were listening. Sometimes, it is best to just shut up and show your toughness on the field. That was one such time.
And maybe it's best if you don't post anymore if all you're going to do is troll? I've seen you do this very same thing on the basketball board too.
 
Somebody on X last night, associated with OSU or close to the program in some way ... said the locker room is not happy with Day making Henderson take a knee on his 32 yard run so Howard could do his little act in the end zone after scoring.
That seems strange. Did they really expect to break a 32 yard run wide open and have sent instructions in to go down on the 1? I'd think the running back made that decision on his own, especially since it wasn't necessary given how much they were up. It would have been a good strategy if they weren't already up 2 scores (to keep the ball and control it).
 
That seems strange. Did they really expect to break a 32 yard run wide open and have sent instructions in to go down on the 1? I'd think the running back made that decision on his own, especially since it wasn't necessary given how much they were up. It would have been a good strategy if they weren't already up 2 scores (to keep the ball and control it).
I think they just have a standing rule if they're up by more than 1 score and you get a breakaway, you go down at the 1 when under 2 minutes. I forget what show I was watching, but it sounds like those are pretty standard instructions for a lot of programs.
 
But even on Saturday's game day broadcast, 90 minutes before kickoff, he said "Google Me. I
Win. "Enough with that especially at that time. I am sure that Day and the Buckeyes were listening. Sometimes, it is best to just shut up and show your toughness on the field. That was one such time.
I'm not going to fault him, nor expect perfection. His personality is what makes him good, and I think it's a calculated move to try and affect the team or fanbase. It's like RMK, you have to take some of the bad with the good. The only person that matters if they have a problem with it is Dolson and he needs to address it with Cignetti if that's the case. Cignetti is arrogant, and needs that self-belief to be the coach he is. He didn't cross any improper lines and has backed up his words with his actions so far. We were going to need some breaks and exceptional performances to have a chance Saturday. But, we were there. We actually had the OSU fanbase fired up to play IU and beat our ass. They did. Just as Cignetti said, tip your hat, they are a great football team and showed us how far we have to go. But, we came a long way to create that game and environment and Coach C gets a long, long leash from me.
 
And maybe it's best if you don't post anymore if all you're going to do is troll? I've seen you do this very same thing on the basketball board too.
I am not a troll. I am a 77 year old IU fan who is a 1969 IU grad and who charged the field in 1967 after the Purdue win. I moved to Cleveland where I continued to attend at least one IU home game a year, usually homecoming, and went to LA this year to see the win over UCLA. I also coached basketball in Ohio for 25 years and yes, had to put up with the reality that IU never beat OSU in football. This was going to be the year. I knew it right after the UCLA game but I also knew how hard it would be to win in Columbus especially when OSU already had a loss and has to play Michigan next week. When I coached I never disrespected the other team. In basketball, you pretty much have to let the other guys shoot the ball and sometimes, guess what, it goes in. Why bad talk them at all to give them more motivation? In football, the best players regardless of the coach, win over 90% of the time. OSU has better players than us. They were already motivated. So yes, I understand why Cignetti said OSU sucks last winter but no I don't get it at all why he said numerous times on TV before the OSU game how much he wins. All that did was to motivate the Buckeyes even more and might even have put more pressure on some of our guys to perform beyond their normal limits. I am a die hard Hoosier fan with a lot of experience in the sports arena, albeit on a smaller scale. I want Cignetti to succeed more than you might ever know but I stand by my statement, that he made a mistake and deserved to be criticized.
 
I am not a troll. I am a 77 year old IU fan who is a 1969 IU grad and who charged the field in 1967 after the Purdue win. I moved to Cleveland where I continued to attend at least one IU home game a year, usually homecoming, and went to LA this year to see the win over UCLA. I also coached basketball in Ohio for 25 years and yes, had to put up with the reality that IU never beat OSU in football. This was going to be the year. I knew it right after the UCLA game but I also knew how hard it would be to win in Columbus especially when OSU already had a loss and has to play Michigan next week. When I coached I never disrespected the other team. In basketball, you pretty much have to let the other guys shoot the ball and sometimes, guess what, it goes in. Why bad talk them at all to give them more motivation? In football, the best players regardless of the coach, win over 90% of the time. OSU has better players than us. They were already motivated. So yes, I understand why Cignetti said OSU sucks last winter but no I don't get it at all why he said numerous times on TV before the OSU game how much he wins. All that did was to motivate the Buckeyes even more and might even have put more pressure on some of our guys to perform beyond their normal limits. I am a die hard Hoosier fan with a lot of experience in the sports arena, albeit on a smaller scale. I want Cignetti to succeed more than you might ever know but I stand by my statement, that he made a mistake and deserved to be criticized.
This is so overblown. We got beat by a better team. I refuse to believe that OSU needed to hear CCC say, "I win, Google me" in the pregame to get motivated to win. He said what he said early to get the fans fired up. OSU certainly wanted to prove a point. The only difference it made in the game was the last touchdown. Maybe they would've taken a knee instead of punching the last one in. Cignetti's words didn't cause our punter to drop a snap or our coverage team to forget how to tackle. We got beat by a team that is better at their place. Simple as that.
 
I am not a troll. I am a 77 year old IU fan who is a 1969 IU grad and who charged the field in 1967 after the Purdue win. I moved to Cleveland where I continued to attend at least one IU home game a year, usually homecoming, and went to LA this year to see the win over UCLA. I also coached basketball in Ohio for 25 years and yes, had to put up with the reality that IU never beat OSU in football. This was going to be the year. I knew it right after the UCLA game but I also knew how hard it would be to win in Columbus especially when OSU already had a loss and has to play Michigan next week. When I coached I never disrespected the other team. In basketball, you pretty much have to let the other guys shoot the ball and sometimes, guess what, it goes in. Why bad talk them at all to give them more motivation? In football, the best players regardless of the coach, win over 90% of the time. OSU has better players than us. They were already motivated. So yes, I understand why Cignetti said OSU sucks last winter but no I don't get it at all why he said numerous times on TV before the OSU game how much he wins. All that did was to motivate the Buckeyes even more and might even have put more pressure on some of our guys to perform beyond their normal limits. I am a die hard Hoosier fan with a lot of experience in the sports arena, albeit on a smaller scale. I want Cignetti to succeed more than you might ever know but I stand by my statement, that he made a mistake and deserved to be criticized.
A lot of assumptions, all negative. Whatever dude.
 
I am not a troll. I am a 77 year old IU fan who is a 1969 IU grad and who charged the field in 1967 after the Purdue win. I moved to Cleveland where I continued to attend at least one IU home game a year, usually homecoming, and went to LA this year to see the win over UCLA. I also coached basketball in Ohio for 25 years and yes, had to put up with the reality that IU never beat OSU in football. This was going to be the year. I knew it right after the UCLA game but I also knew how hard it would be to win in Columbus especially when OSU already had a loss and has to play Michigan next week. When I coached I never disrespected the other team. In basketball, you pretty much have to let the other guys shoot the ball and sometimes, guess what, it goes in. Why bad talk them at all to give them more motivation? In football, the best players regardless of the coach, win over 90% of the time. OSU has better players than us. They were already motivated. So yes, I understand why Cignetti said OSU sucks last winter but no I don't get it at all why he said numerous times on TV before the OSU game how much he wins. All that did was to motivate the Buckeyes even more and might even have put more pressure on some of our guys to perform beyond their normal limits. I am a die hard Hoosier fan with a lot of experience in the sports arena, albeit on a smaller scale. I want Cignetti to succeed more than you might ever know but I stand by my statement, that he made a mistake and deserved to be criticized.
Well, we just beat UM the week before, were you complaining then, or through any of the other first 9 games, prior? What he said about the schools sucking was 10 months ago, to fire up a fan base, in front of a full bball crowd to tell them he wasn't coming here to lose and expected to take on the best in the conference. Do I think they noticed it and put a little extra mustard on their part to rub the upstart Hoosiers nose in it? Of course. What did that mean in the game? They punched the last TD in instead of taking a knee. That was it, imo. They were super charged up to prove they're still the big dog and you aren't coming in to the 'Shoe and getting anything less than their best shot.

Sounds like you've had a bee in your bonnet about this since he said it and he made it take 13 weeks to air it out. Again, for that I give him credit. It played zero part in the outcome of the game.
 
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