So, since I have done that, does that mean you will listen to my (conservative) observations and suggestions?
Dianne Feinstein - Completely ridiculous.
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So, since I have done that, does that mean you will listen to my (conservative) observations and suggestions?
My mind has the ability to make parallel comparisons on a plain that most people can't even imagine.
I swear there is a section of the spectrum named, joe_hoopsier!
LMAO Like everyone hasn't been in a classroom for at least 12 years of their life.
You act like the only people who know what goes on in a classroom are teachers, like it's some big mystery.
My oldest graduated after junior year so she was only in school for 11 years and went to kindergarten in a church without classrooms 🤣
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Lmao. I watch doctors on tv all the time and go a couple times a year. Heck I’m even great at checking out web md. Can I do your next surgery? What an inane statement. Because you were in a school somewhere 50 years ago you are some kind of expert? Sure thing.
I'd be fine with just passing a law to get rid of Feinstein.
LMAO If you are taught by the doctor every day for 12 years, and you graduate with a license that says you passed, sure.
And you comparing an elementary, Jr High, an High School to a doctor's training just shows how out of touch you are.
If we actually had an altruistic congress in both houses, they would agree to term limits. But we don’t, and there isn’t a single member in congress who gives a rat’s behind about any of us. Feinstein no different than strom Thurmond and Jesse helms who all slept through their last 5-10 Years. They all should have gone away a long time ago.
High school.
First I will say my suggestions need to start in elementary school. My list:
1) A focus needs to be placed on personal responsibility. No more late work is acceptable. If you fail, then you fail.
2) Students need to learn to cope with failure, disappointment, and rejection. They are coddled and don't know how to handle difficult situations.
3) Eliminate conversations with "I feel" and start using "I think".
4) Every high schooler needs a year of education on life skills such as insurance, taxes, mortgages, investments, budgeting, etc. Things that adults have to deal with.
5) Students need to put in more sweat equity in the maintenance of the school. Pick up trash, clean tables, sweep floors, etc.
I have more but I'll leave it at those for now.
Be honest zeke. How many “experts” at managing a classroom really knew what they were talking about? I listened to my stoker talk for years about required education courses given by people who didn’t know how to teach. A good teacher is about intangibles, such as self-confidence, preparation, control of anger, tolerance, and much more. I think it’s fair to say any educated person knows what a well-managed classroom looks and feels like and all can tell the difference between effective and ineffective teachers. Teachers obviously have the benefit of experience, but experience alone doesn’t make a bad teacher into a good one.
At least a modicum of shop class, I remember freshman yr we switched 2 weeks with home ec and I still use things I learned in that 2 weeks . Granted I had aptitude for shop classes. My shop teacher put my Sr project on a cart and took it to the teachers lounge to show them. But just some basic life skills of some simple things to take care of yourself.
Yep. Everyone should have shop, home ec, automotive, and general home repair. Sadly, maybe even a self defense class.
Everyone knows that teaching is a lot more stressful than being air traffic controller, driving a race car at over 200 mph, being a fighter jet pilot with missiles coming at you, etc. Those Ukrainian soldiers don't know what stress is.
What happens in classrooms has changed massively over the past 40 years. Parents used to be involved but many...many pay no attention and won't even return the teacher's phone calls or emails. They blame teachers for the failure of their own children both academically and behaviorally.
I'd add personal financial management. I can't count the number of Sailors I've had that didn't know the first thing about it. That's why soon as I got into a position to require it, I made every new Sailor see the Financial Counselor for an interview. If they couldn't prove they knew how to balance a check book, understand loan interest, or otherwise know how to manage their personal finances they were required to attend some training we set up for that. The results were that my last two ships had very few issues with stupid personal finance issues. It works.
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So true. The only thing a lot of people know is to spend, spend, spend. To me most of it is just plain common sense but a lot of people sure don't get it.
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“An high school” shows how little you paid attention when you were in school, Danno. And if you go to school for 6 years for education and get a degree, then I’ll listen to what you say about schools. Speaking of out of touch. What a hypocrite you are.
If you think teaching isn’t one of the more stressful occupations out there, you aren’t paying attention. It’s a little silly comparing it to those occupations… race car driver? Although the lock downs, shooter drills, storming school boards etc have added a degree of safety concerns. It used to just be worrying about kids that would hit you or spit on you, but no longer. This thread right here is exactly why all the good teachers are leaving the profession. Numbers at colleges are plummeting and everyone will wonder why no one wants to teach anymore. Teachers go to school for six years, have multiple in class experiences and then student teach. But everyone wants to tell you how to do your job. ( This actually isn’t the case in real life. I never had a single time where a parent was disrespectful, second guessing or concerned about what was being taught) My guess is it’s the large percentage of people, like most of you, who don’t even have kids involved anymore but feel like you know exactly what needs to be done to straighten these darn kids up. Just like we did 50 years ago in my last class experiences…..
I agree with much of that, but teaching in high school is very different than teaching in elementary. I feel statements are essential. You teach children to use that instead of using their fists . It’s not an either or situation. Our high school has always taught life skills, in fact we started in elementary. I just assumed they all still do.
No late work for high schoolers maybe. For elementary that’s not always going to work. We had a work crew that rotated and helped the custodians.
Right nobody said experience alone. Would you like to respond to my point?
You are the one who suggested some kind of expertise is needed to evaluate teaching. My response was that it doesn’t take an expert to know what a well-managed classroom looks llike or to know the difference between an effective and ineffective teacher. I noted that many “experts” in the area really aren’t. I also noted good teachers have traits you don’t learn in class. I also noted the only factor teachers have over parents in these areas is the teacher’s experience. Would you care to discuss the other sources of teacher expertise you referred to as you belittled parents who comment on the quality of education their kids receive?
That’s pretty unfair. First of all, stress is more often than not a subjective issue. Stress is highly situational. I know a couple of lawyers who hated practicing law, went into teaching, and thrived.
Every occupation has stress at different times. I also think it is highly arrogant of you to suggest that only a teacher can know “what needs to be done to straighten these darn kids up.”. Many kinds of people have important things to say about that.
I think the problem is people want things NOW. Defered gratification is a foreign concept to them. They also don't realize how interest rates on borrowed money can sap them.
My parents never learned this. They were hard workers and lived a simple lifestyle, but absolutely could not manage money and we always had a pile of unpaid bills. I never knew how to break out of that cycle until I got married and my wife straightened me out. Once you understand, the concept of money management is simple and easy (think Dave Ramsey). But just getting to that mindset is impossible for some.
PT Barnum said there's a sucker born every minute and, boy, was he right.
