I have not scouted the guy but it seems many of us do not think he is that good or would be an addition we really need.Agree. I cannot see him bringing enough to the team to take the chance. Nor is he worth pushing out anyone on the current roster.
Good point Woody may well no the odds of TJD being a first round pick, drafted at all, sign a two way deal, or full development league.I would bet that Woodson knows what TJD is doing, or at least has a strong gut feeling. He's only a year out of the NBA, he still has deep contacts and knows which way the winds are blowing.
Count me as one that would LOVE for Dennis to pick IU.I have not scouted the guy but it seems many of us do not think he is that good or would be an addition we really need.
He is not picking IUCount me as one that would LOVE for Dennis to pick IU.
We had a solid defense last year. But we don't have a lock down wing defender. And that cost us in a handful of games. Dennis would immediately become our best defender. And would be a main rotation guy because of it.
If TJD comes back, he could be the missing piece that allows us to close out some of the close games against teams with stud wing scorers, that we weren't able to last year.
If TJD leaves, we'll need another good wing defender even more, because we'll have less protection behind our perimeter defense.
Offensively, he's at worst as good as what Rob and Trey were last year. So if his minutes come from them, my thinking is you can use their output as a benchmark, and any sort of improvement on Dennis part back to his earlier college days, and he starts to become a HUGE upgrade to our wing play, when also factoring how good he is defensively.
Having said all this, I would think he would have picked IU long ago if we were still in the running for him. In today's world, having a program like IU on your "short list" probably adds a few dollars to his NIL deal for whatever schools he's actually choosing from at this point.
Peegs? Lmao. Who else do you trust for info? Jen Psaki?It was reported on Peegs (who have direct contacts) that the staff was more than willing to oversign even if it meant pushing someone (or multiple players) out. They wanted both Dennis and McNeil. So stfu.
Don't be so sure about that.We would take him if he wanted to come regardless of TJD coming back or not, which we still don't know.
This is a Dennis decision, not a IU decision.
Disagree on this one. IMHO he is IU's to take or pass on.He is not picking IU
The Peegs staff has good info. Especially into the inner workings of the program. They sometimes inflate IU’s chances with players (Kaufman), though. There is no doubting that they have good inside sources, however.Peegs? Lmao. Who else do you trust for info? Jen Psaki?
He’s picking today at 4. IU has already been informed it’s not them.Disagree on this one. IMHO he is IU's to take or pass on.
That may or may not be true. Either way, (like yours) my opinion stands.He’s picking today at 4. IU has already been informed it’s not them.
That’s not a guarantee at all. I don’t think Woodson is a shell game type. Waivers do get handed out but we’ve seen in the past how tricky and inconsistent the NCAA is. You notice how quiet the transfer recruiting has gotten? I don’t believe that’s a coincidence. You can’t tell me if woody wants an upgrade he wouldn’t be looking at others. Roster is set. You won’t convince me otherwise.
Peegs? Lmao. Who else do you trust for info? Jen Psaki?
Did you even know he was committing today? It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. He is not coming to IU.That may or may not be true. Either way, (like yours) my opinion stands.
a few nba teams???? That is not true. Unless you mean they would like to have the opportunity for him to work out without wasting a draft pick (specifically a late first round pick on him). Zero teams have wanted or suggested that. Could change at the combine. I doubt it.
Rabjohns is just a reporter reporting what someone told him. Means dookyRabjohns is saying it's not IU and it's not IUs decision. Why would he make that spin if it's not what he's hearing?
And can you post anything without making it political?
Yes everyone knew he was committing today…Thanks FeepeeDid you even know he was committing today? It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. He is not coming to IU.
DD’s role wouldn’t be impacted by TJD.Rabjohns is just a reporter reporting what someone told him. Means dooky
IUs only reason to take him is if TJD leaves. Otherwise DD would likely be an unhappy role player.
The guy worked to convince ziti fans he is the shooter they felt he isn’t. He will make more $$ at other programs where he would be a key player.
Yet here you are thinking IU is going to land him. Delusional.Yes everyone knew he was committing today…Thanks Feepee
Rabjohns is just a reporter reporting what someone told him. Means dooky
IUs only reason to take him is if TJD leaves. Otherwise DD would likely be an unhappy role player.
The guy worked to convince ziti fans he is the shooter they felt he isn’t. He will make more $$ at other programs where he would be a key player.
Couldn't agree more.Count me as one that would LOVE for Dennis to pick IU.
We had a solid defense last year. But we don't have a lock down wing defender. And that cost us in a handful of games. Dennis would immediately become our best defender. And would be a main rotation guy because of it.
If TJD comes back, he could be the missing piece that allows us to close out some of the close games against teams with stud wing scorers, that we weren't able to last year.
If TJD leaves, we'll need another good wing defender even more, because we'll have less protection behind our perimeter defense.
Offensively, he's at worst as good as what Rob and Trey were last year. So if his minutes come from them, my thinking is you can use their output as a benchmark, and any sort of improvement on Dennis part back to his earlier college days, and he starts to become a HUGE upgrade to our wing play, when also factoring how good he is defensively.
Having said all this, I would think he would have picked IU long ago if we were still in the running for him. In today's world, having a program like IU on your "short list" probably adds a few dollars to his NIL deal for whatever schools he's actually choosing from at this point.
Of course it would and for two reasons.DD’s role wouldn’t be impacted by TJD.
You betThey don't play the same position, so please explain how TJD coming back would effect DD if he were to come here.
He's never going to be the focal point of any offense he goes to, so don't start with that either.
Link to where I sad that?Yet here you are thinking IU is going to land him. Delusional.
Of course it would and for two reasons.
TJD here means a cut is required
TJD here means DD role as a scorer and PT is reduced
don’t get me wrong I would take him either way for depth but he will be a key figure making more $$$ elsewhere Imho Woody passes.
That’s ridiculous. DD is no scorer. He’s a 3 and D guy. Even without TJD he would be the 4th or 5th option.Of course it would and for two reasons.
TJD here means a cut is required
TJD here means DD role as a scorer and PT is reduced
don’t get me wrong I would take him either way for depth but he will be a key figure making more $$$ elsewhere Imho Woody passes.
NopeThat’s ridiculous. DD is no scorer. He’s a 3 and D guy. Even without TJD he would be the 4th or 5th option.
Now you are backtracking. You started out saying you disagreed with me when I said he wasn’t coming to IU. It’s okay to admit you were wrong.
Disagree on this one. IMHO he is IU's to take or pass on.
Here you go Courty. I said “He is not picking IU”. You replied with the above.Link to where I sad that?
why so upset about this?
OmgHere you go Courty. I said “He is not picking IU”. You replied with the above.
Lol your opinion did change.Omg
My opinion hasn’t changed
IUs to take with low expectations or pass.
You disagree…good for you
Had that been my opinion, And not known that he was committing today (all over the internet) I would have did exactly that. Neither was the case.Lol your opinion did change.
Me: IU is not getting Dennis.
You: I disagree. He’s IU’s to take or pass.
Me: He is committing today at 4 (you clearly didn’t know). He is not coming to IU.
You: That may or not be true.
You: My guess is that Woodson passes.
So you went from telling me I was wrong about him not coming to IU to “guessing” Woodson will pass on him. You could have simply said “oh I didn’t see he was committing today. Thanks for the info on him not coming to IU”.
Regardless...if he doesn't choose IU...it kinda bums me out.Lol your opinion did change.
Me: IU is not getting Dennis.
You: I disagree. He’s IU’s to take or pass.
Me: He is committing today at 4 (you clearly didn’t know). He is not coming to IU.
You: That may or not be true.
You: My guess is that Woodson passes.
So you went from telling me I was wrong about him not coming to IU to “guessing” Woodson will pass on him. You could have simply said “oh I didn’t see he was committing today. Thanks for the info on him not coming to IU”.
There is evidence in this thread that it was in fact your opinion.Had that been my opinion, And not known that he was committing today (all over the internet) I would have did exactly that. Neither was the case.
if your goal is just to argue in circles, it looks like our old pal Ordy may have snuck back onto the FB forum. He would love this.
hope this helps.
You do understand optics plays a part at some Universities. IU being one of them. Imho Woody isn’t going to make a player leave just to get a minor upgrade. I think we absolutely would’ve taken both before the deadline. Again this is my opinion. It’s looking like this is the case to me. I don’t care what the pundits are saying.Any player forced out after the deadline is given a waiver. This is a NCAA rule, not something just made up. If a player transfers after the deadline but before a team fills all the allotted scholarships, then the player wouldn't get a waiver.
The reason transfer recruiting has gotten quiet is because the kids we wanted have either committed or in Dennis's case, are about to commit. If Dennis wanted to commit, we would have taken him. This isn't hard to understand.
You can choose to believe it or not, but that's what it is.
LolThere is evidence in this thread that it was in fact your opinion.
You are starting to live up to your GBI name, Courtdense.
I don’t think he really moves the needle. Horribly inefficient against mid major competition. I was against him from the beginning, and I remain so.Regardless...if he doesn't choose IU...it kinda bums me out.
I think a player like him could have been the difference between IU's ceiling being a fringe B10 Title contender, to being a legit Final Four/Natty contender.
He potentially solved one of our issues from last year, that doesn't appear that we've solved with roster changes for this next year...which was guarding/slowing down really good wing players. Boeheim, Champagne, Davis, Branham, etc... we blew a lot of leads late in games because we couldn't stop guys like that. Dennis would have changed that dynamic.
As it stands, without a guy like him...assuming TJD is back...I still think we can make marked improvements and contend for a B10 title. But that weak point against elite level wing scorers, will hold us back at some point.
I think he’s saying defensively at the wing. While I think he was a slight upgrade overall I do think defensively he’s a lot better. Maybe 1-2 games better. That’s about it.I don’t think he really moves the needle. Horribly inefficient against mid major competition. I was against him from the beginning, and I remain so.
You do understand optics plays a part at some Universities. IU being one of them. Imho Woody isn’t going to make a player leave just to get a minor upgrade. I think we absolutely would’ve taken both before the deadline. Again this is my opinion. It’s looking like this is the case to me. I don’t care what the pundits are saying.
IMO If Woody made an offer it was going to be as a role player and if he introduced him to the NIL guys I suspect their projections for him were modest.You do understand optics plays a part at some Universities. IU being one of them. Imho Woody isn’t going to make a player leave just to get a minor upgrade. I think we absolutely would’ve taken both before the deadline. Again this is my opinion. It’s looking like this is the case to me. I don’t care what the pundits are saying.
Agree. I still think a shooter should have been the priority. At this point I would start JHS alongside XJ and Bates in the backcourt.I think he’s saying defensively at the wing. While I think he was a slight upgrade overall I do think defensively he’s a lot better. Maybe 1-2 games better. That’s about it.