you need to pay more attention to current trends in basketball.
Baylor didn't have any problem running the table against teams with big guys - big immobile guys are worthless (look at the NBA, they demand ball handling, you can't run the floor, dribble and pass effectively, there is no place in the game for you). If run properly with effective outside shooters the size issue becomes less important. Too many folks on this board are locked into old thinking. If the floor is spread, and you have effective ball handlers, bug guys that can't move well become a liability. If you take a lot of shots from outside, rebounds come out longer. Folks here need to replay the championship game and watch what Baylor did, or watch how Luke Garza becomes a non-entity (we did it to him in the first Iowa game when we somehow spread the floor on offense).
Look up their true shooting percentages and effective field goal percentages. Stewart was far better as a freshman than armaan last year in those categories. Armaan has never had an offensive rating above 100 (terrible). Stewart hasn’t had an offensive rating below 108 and his freshman year it was 112 which is very good.
The 4 has to be able to guard big guys when your one and only 5 gets 2 fouls in the first half. You can have your 6'7" rail up against Kofi if you want to but I don't think you will be a coach for long.
There's only three positions. A lead guard to start offensive action. A post to defend the lane, eat up weak side rebounds, roll and cut for dunks. And, everyone else. the everyone else can be anything from a 2nd PG to a stretch four, but they all need to be mobile, able to put it on the floor and shoot. It also allows for switching through multiple positions.
No the four can't guard two players at once, that's why you have a bench.
Was far better than Oladipo and Jordan as well. Tell us what that proves, eh? I mean other than your frail mastery of logical inconsistency.
Also the “guards” will be expected to rebound. Key is playing multiple spots.
Michigan used 6'8" Brandon johns, and 6'10" Austin Davis off the bench, with 6'8" Franz on the wing. They have 6'7" Livers... 7'1" Hunter.... huge team.
And Kofi never really won anything. They sure lit it up in the tournament. How’s those trees Purdue,UK, NC doing? They are getting run off the boards and out gunned. They constantly are out of position. Even getting out rebounded by “inferior size”. The leading rebounder OG Baylor was a guard by the way.
Lol. That’s not what’s being argued either. Timme has great footwork but still plays under the basket for sure. He also plays below the rim with lots of cuts to the basket. He’s no true center.
They only used one post at a time. 4 out, 1 in. if one of those four out does not have perimeter skills (like Race) then the defense just has his guy pack it in and it ruins spacing and clogs up driving lanes. Like every team has done to us for four years.
The five position has nothing to do with the conversation.
So I provided actual data of how Stewart was the better shooter, and you ignored it.
I am not locked into old thinking. A 210 lbs 6’7” guy can play the 4 if.... IF he provides more offense than he gives up on the defensive end.
You seem to have that part more that covered. However does makes for some ugly cherries.
He wasn’t injured at all his freshman year. It’s cool to admit you just made crap up about Oladipo and Hulls though.
Lordy but you're disingenuous. His freshman year was a wash. You're the only that ever cited it and only because it fits your narrative. My point was that there's a really long list of NBA Players that performed just as, if not more poorly as freshmen and that it proves less than nothing.
To be fair. those 2 forwards are used as the 1 in the 4 out. Hunter won’t be used like that he will be in the 4 spot. He will guard the 5 some but will most likely switch up. Not down. In Baylor’s system there are no true centers so it is a bit confusing on how players like that are listed/used.
You don’t think Stewart would have made a similar jump from freshman to sophomore year if he was only being asked to catch and shoot like armaan?
Agree, but your smalls better be able to rebound. Baylor’s “stretch” guy was really a power forward in a 6:5 body. He was a monster rebounder doing his work inside. I don’t remember him playing on the perimeter at all.
Shit premise. Go back and watch some tape - AF wasn't strictly catch and shoot.
You ignorant fool. Armaan Franklin never took 3s off anything but catch and shoot. I proved you a complete fool by providing you with the TS% and EFG% of both players. I’m assuming you don’t even know what TS% or EFG% are or how to look them up since you tried to claim Oladipo and Hulls (you did say Hulls) were worse than Stewart at one point, and they weren’t.
I agree with you on that but Hunter has more of the 4 skill set that works in the 4 out. It’s all in the skills and not so much size. The guards will be expected to rebound/crash the boards while the “big” blocks out. You can’t only look at size. Stop thinking the old way. Race and TJD better get better at shooting or they will be in the middle.
He did until the bigs got in foul trouble. Then he switched to the 5 spot for long stretches. If you notice Baylor extended the lead when they went small. Gonzaga couldn’t stay with them.
Again it has nothing to do with “old” way. If we play with Hunter at the 4 for long stretches of the game we will have nobody who can play interior defense or rebound at a high rate other that TJD. I promise you that was not the case with Baylor or any other team playing 4 out. You need multiple guys who can guard adequately inside as well as rim protect and rebound. It is not about size but Hunter does none of that well. He can spread the floor on the offensive end and that is it. He doesn’t even score consistently enough (thus far in his career) to sacrifice what he would give up on the defensive end. I literally watch probably 20 hours of basketball per week minimum and caoched as recently as 3 years ago. This idea that needing two people who can guard inside, rebound well, and rim protects is outdated is insane and makes me wonder if those spouting it understands anything about the game. Size is not everything I agree. But you need at least 2 people on the floor who can do what is required to play good interior team defense and rebound well. Hunter did neither well this year.
Race isn't starting? CMW will utilize the the 4 out 1 in when he has the players on the court to do it. Race had a decent 3 point shot in high school and It sounds like TJD is expected to take more outside shots, Being able to replace each other in the post during play would give some teams problems.
Lol. He’s not going to run a double post. You are saying we will play with 2 guys that can’t stretch the floor. I don’t give two craps how much you have watched or coached. The only way Race or TJD plays together is because one of them improves their shot enough to play the 4.
One of the last guys I would have cited to be able to play Baylor's game would be Hunter. I've said in other posts that that players like Lander and Hunter would get demolished in that kind of game, just not physically built to play at that level. I'm not stupid.
100% agree. Both need to be willing to shoot and make a solid %. You will get zero argument from me on that.
I don’t think Race should start, but Woodson could obviously disagree. We will find out in November.
