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DEI killed any Semicon boom

Thanks for ruining economic progress Libs


Like his infrastructure with made in America mandates with no clue where any of it was actually made
 
Thanks for ruining economic progress Libs


No surprise. If you do business with the federal government or receive grants you will be subject to this. Why nobody connected those dots I don’t know. (I posted about this awful EO when it was issued). Same goes for the infrastructure funds.

 
No surprise. If you do business with the federal government or receive grants you will be subject to this. Why nobody connected those dots I don’t know. (I posted about this awful EO when it was issued). Same goes for the infrastructure funds.

Has anyone challenged that EO as unconstitutional?

Does it define the terms “equity” and “equitable?”
 
I know all of you guys hate DEI. I wish there was a time when we could apply for a job or a college application. We can have an equal chance for that job or college. No such time exists, you guys feel there is no racism or discrimination but none of you are black. People are afraid of the browning of America from our first black POTUS and VP. Maga wants to make America great again. They want to take away all our advancement and get rid of civil rights. Go back to state rights who do not give a dam about black people., none of you ask me about DEI Because it takes away the power of you guys, you do not want or see us as equal Anything to help black people you do not want, us equal. The founding Fathers did not include us in the constitution because they had slaves, They are trying to stop all the advancement of POC. Kill voting rights, stop lending for housing, ban our books and history trying to hide all the shit you guys have done. Keep us in poor sections of town, red-lining, and stop funding for public schools so we do not become educated. We will never be equal, all of our advancement came from the federal government. YOU got rid of AA except for the military, we can lay down our lives for our country but can not get an equal chance for a job that why we need DEI. We will never be included.
 
Has anyone challenged that EO as unconstitutional?

Does it define the terms “equity” and “equitable?”
Definitions are in this EO


I don’t know of a challenge.

I don’t think it is unconstitutional on its face, however a case might be made for unconstitutional application in some circumstances.
 
I know all of you guys hate DEI. I wish there was a time when we could apply for a job or a college application. We can have an equal chance for that job or college. No such time exists, you guys feel there is no racism or discrimination but none of you are black. People are afraid of the browning of America from our first black POTUS and VP. Maga wants to make America great again. They want to take away all our advancement and get rid of civil rights. Go back to state rights who do not give a dam about black people., none of you ask me about DEI Because it takes away the power of you guys, you do not want or see us as equal Anything to help black people you do not want, us equal. The founding Fathers did not include us in the constitution because they had slaves, They are trying to stop all the advancement of POC. Kill voting rights, stop lending for housing, ban our books and history trying to hide all the shit you guys have done. Keep us in poor sections of town, red-lining, and stop funding for public schools so we do not become educated. We will never be equal, all of our advancement came from the federal government. YOU got rid of AA except for the military, we can lay down our lives for our country but can not get an equal chance for a job that why we need DEI. We will never be included.
This post shows why DEI is futile. I posted two prolix EO’s about DEI. Not one mention of the two large elephants in the room

Absent fathers
Crappy education.
 
I know all of you guys hate DEI. I wish there was a time when we could apply for a job or a college application. We can have an equal chance for that job or college. No such time exists, you guys feel there is no racism or discrimination but none of you are black. People are afraid of the browning of America from our first black POTUS and VP. Maga wants to make America great again. They want to take away all our advancement and get rid of civil rights. Go back to state rights who do not give a dam about black people., none of you ask me about DEI Because it takes away the power of you guys, you do not want or see us as equal Anything to help black people you do not want, us equal. The founding Fathers did not include us in the constitution because they had slaves, They are trying to stop all the advancement of POC. Kill voting rights, stop lending for housing, ban our books and history trying to hide all the shit you guys have done. Keep us in poor sections of town, red-lining, and stop funding for public schools so we do not become educated. We will never be equal, all of our advancement came from the federal government. YOU got rid of AA except for the military, we can lay down our lives for our country but can not get an equal chance for a job that why we need DEI. We will never be included.
A point by point response for me (assuming that this is not a troll account, maybe against my better judgment):
I know all of you guys hate DEI.
I do not like it as it is instantiated now.
I wish there was a time when we could apply for a job or a college application.
I'm taking your "we" as black people in general. Black people can and do apply for and receive jobs and admissions to colleges. I think the use of "we" and "you" here, to cover all people of a particular skin color over all time is wrongheaded and part of the problem.
We can have an equal chance for that job or college.
Equal "chance" is different than what "equity," as defined by the current instantiation, calls for.
No such time exists, you guys feel there is no racism or discrimination but none of you are black.
I am not black. I'm not sure if you're correct that black people don't currently have the same chance to get a job or college admit. Here are some statistics that show a higher percentage of black students accepted at prestigious universities than the black population at large. How do you square that with this statement?

People are afraid of the browning of America from our first black POTUS and VP.
Some people are. I am not. I welcome it, if by that you mean the intermarriage of different people with different skin colors.
Maga wants to make America great again. They want to take away all our advancement and get rid of civil rights.
I am not MAGA, but I think this is ridiculous hyperbole.

Go back to state rights who do not give a dam about black people., none of you ask me about DEI Because it takes away the power of you guys, you do not want or see us as equal Anything to help black people you do not want, us equal.
I've done a lot in my own life to help disadvantaged people of all sorts, especially black people. I am not wealthy. I don't have much, if any power, to be taken away. I want to see all people everywhere treated equally under the law and with respect in all social situations.

The founding Fathers did not include us in the constitution because they had slaves,
Yes.
They are trying to stop all the advancement of POC.
Who is the "they" here? If it is today's white people or today's MAGA, I disagree.
Kill voting rights, stop lending for housing, ban our books and history trying to hide all the shit you guys have done.
I have not done any "shit." Nor is any person on this board responsible for what people who look like us did 25, 50, 100, 200, or 500 years ago. No books are being banned, and history regarding black people is told and retold. Voting rights for black people aren't being "killed," nor is lending.
Keep us in poor sections of town, red-lining, and stop funding for public schools so we do not become educated.
Inner-city schools are funded quite well in Chicago. Red-lining is illegal and has been for a long time. Money does not equal educational outcomes, though. In general, though, what you are complaining about are the results of poverty. Poverty has many, many different causes, and simplifying them all down to "white supremacy" is lazy thinking.
We will never be equal, all of our advancement came from the federal government.
No, advancement of black people was due to lots of very strong willed, smart, hard-working, black people in the past who spent vastly more of their time focused on achievement than victimhood. You belittle their achievements, at a time when terrible discrimination existed, when you say "all" advancement came from the federal government. And due to their efforts, under the law, you are as equal as I am.
YOU got rid of AA except for the military,
I didn't do that. The Supreme Court (including a black man) and some activist litigants did. AA has always been in tension with the 14th Amendment. Do you believe it was fair for Harvard to discriminate against Asian applicants so that more black applicants could be admitted?
we can lay down our lives for our country but can not get an equal chance for a job that why we need DEI.
DEI is much different than AA. You are conflating the two.
We will never be included.
I'm really sorry you feel that way. I disagree.
 
I know all of you guys hate DEI. I wish there was a time when we could apply for a job or a college application. We can have an equal chance for that job or college. No such time exists, you guys feel there is no racism or discrimination but none of you are black. People are afraid of the browning of America from our first black POTUS and VP. Maga wants to make America great again. They want to take away all our advancement and get rid of civil rights. Go back to state rights who do not give a dam about black people., none of you ask me about DEI Because it takes away the power of you guys, you do not want or see us as equal Anything to help black people you do not want, us equal. The founding Fathers did not include us in the constitution because they had slaves, They are trying to stop all the advancement of POC. Kill voting rights, stop lending for housing, ban our books and history trying to hide all the shit you guys have done. Keep us in poor sections of town, red-lining, and stop funding for public schools so we do not become educated. We will never be equal, all of our advancement came from the federal government. YOU got rid of AA except for the military, we can lay down our lives for our country but can not get an equal chance for a job that why we need DEI. We will never be included.
Even a random paragraph break in the middle third of that would have been appreciated.
 
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Sorry, but when this opinion piece has shit like this in it

"Intel is also building fabs in Poland and Israel, which means it would rather risk Russian aggression and Hamas rockets over dealing with America’s DEI regime."​

...it's hard to take anything they say seriously.
 
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A point by point response for me (assuming that this is not a troll account, maybe against my better judgment):

I do not like it as it is instantiated now.

I'm taking your "we" as black people in general. Black people can and do apply for and receive jobs and admissions to colleges. I think the use of "we" and "you" here, to cover all people of a particular skin color over all time is wrongheaded and part of the problem.

Equal "chance" is different than what "equity," as defined by the current instantiation, calls for.

I am not black. I'm not sure if you're correct that black people don't currently have the same chance to get a job or college admit. Here are some statistics that show a higher percentage of black students accepted at prestigious universities than the black population at large. How do you square that with this statement?


Some people are. I am not. I welcome it, if by that you mean the intermarriage of different people with different skin colors.

I am not MAGA, but I think this is ridiculous hyperbole.


I've done a lot in my own life to help disadvantaged people of all sorts, especially black people. I am not wealthy. I don't have much, if any power, to be taken away. I want to see all people everywhere treated equally under the law and with respect in all social situations.


Yes.

Who is the "they" here? If it is today's white people or today's MAGA, I disagree.

I have not done any "shit." Nor is any person on this board responsible for what people who look like us did 25, 50, 100, 200, or 500 years ago. No books are being banned, and history regarding black people is told and retold. Voting rights for black people aren't being "killed," nor is lending.

Inner-city schools are funded quite well in Chicago. Red-lining is illegal and has been for a long time. Money does not equal educational outcomes, though. In general, though, what you are complaining about are the results of poverty. Poverty has many, many different causes, and simplifying them all down to "white supremacy" is lazy thinking.

No, advancement of black people was due to lots of very strong willed, smart, hard-working, black people in the past who spent vastly more of their time focused on achievement than victimhood. You belittle their achievements, at a time when terrible discrimination existed, when you say "all" advancement came from the federal government. And due to their efforts, under the law, you are as equal as I am.

I didn't do that. The Supreme Court (including a black man) and some activist litigants did. AA has always been in tension with the 14th Amendment. Do you believe it was fair for Harvard to discriminate against Asian applicants so that more black applicants could be admitted?

DEI is much different than AA. You are conflating the two.

I'm really sorry you feel that way. I disagree.
You are entitled to your opinion and yes you are not black. Your schools are not poorly funded. You are not red-lined, We get all the low-wage non-paying jobs. Why are you taking away the right to the polls? DEI is needed because the field is not equal. You are not black. How do you know? The black man on the Supreme Court might as well be black. Someone had to write into law to go to schools, restaurants, vote, jobs-housing
 
How do you know a black man's life? Someone had to make it into law b4 we get a chance Red lining illegal have you seen Chicago? or any CITY? Our schools are underfunded, books banned, our history taken away from us but yet everything is fair. Middle school students have to get parental permission to read certain books. Whats net to get permission to sit near a black person?
 
How do you know a black man's life? Someone had to make it into law b4 we get a chance Red lining illegal have you seen Chicago? or any CITY? Our schools are underfunded, books banned, our history taken away from us but yet everything is fair. Middle school students have to get parental permission to read certain books. Whats net to get permission to sit near a black person?
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How do you know a black man's life? Someone had to make it into law b4 we get a chance Red lining illegal have you seen Chicago? or any CITY? Our schools are underfunded, books banned, our history taken away from us but yet everything is fair. Middle school students have to get parental permission to read certain books. Whats net to get permission to sit near a black person?
You are entitled to your opinion and yes you are not black. Your schools are not poorly funded. You are not red-lined, We get all the low-wage non-paying jobs. Why are you taking away the right to the polls? DEI is needed because the field is not equal. You are not black. How do you know? The black man on the Supreme Court might as well be black. Someone had to write into law to go to schools, restaurants, vote, jobs-housing

How do you know a white man's life? How do you know what kind of school system I went through and how well it was funded?

For the record, I've lived in Chicago and it's near inner-ring suburbs for 24 years.

Why do you keep using the word "you?" I am not taking away the right to the polls--all white people are not some uniform blob of moral responsibility--anymore than you are out participating in gang violence.

Black people do not get "all the low-wage non-paying jobs."

 
How do you know a white man's life? How do you know what kind of school system I went through and how well it was funded?

For the record, I've lived in Chicago and it's near inner-ring suburbs for 24 years.

Why do you keep using the word "you?" I am not taking away the right to the polls--all white people are not some uniform blob of moral responsibility--anymore than you are out participating in gang violence.

Black people do not get "all the low-wage non-paying jobs."

ALL those young men's lives our wasted through gang violence and drugs. Have you checked out South Carolina employment . Black people are the first to let go. Who's state is that? Haley and Scott are one of the poorest states number 7 in the nation. You may not personally but there are laws on the books taking away voter rights.
 
ALL those young men's lives our wasted through gang violence and drugs. Have you checked out South Carolina employment . Black people are the first to let go. Who's state is that? Haley and Scott are one of the poorest states number 7 in the nation. You may not personally but there are laws on the books taking away voter rights.
Can you list, and link to, those specific laws “on the books taking away voter rights?”
 
ALL those young men's lives our wasted through gang violence and drugs. Have you checked out South Carolina employment . Black people are the first to let go. Who's state is that? Haley and Scott are one of the poorest states number 7 in the nation. You may not personally but there are laws on the books taking away voter rights.
Makes Tim Scott election to the senate even more amazing.
 
They want to take away all our advancement and get rid of civil rights

does this fit into your civil rights narrative ?

First it was the kid in OH, now a girl in MO. But, it doesn't matter because it's just more black on white crime, which is far more common than the reverse.


ALL those young men's lives our wasted through gang violence and drugs

That's because your culture supports that behavior and lifestyle. Asian Americans used to be on the poorer end of the spectrum as well and have faced lots of discrimination, but they differ in two ways: 1) hard work and 2) belief and focus on education. They are now the top earning ethnic group in not only the U.S., but globally. Why? Culture. Same for Jews and other ethnic groups.
 
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ALL those young men's lives our wasted through gang violence and drugs. Have you checked out South Carolina employment . Black people are the first to let go. Who's state is that? Haley and Scott are one of the poorest states number 7 in the nation. You may not personally but there are laws on the books taking away voter rights.
Jim Clyburn
 
Can you list, and link to, those specific laws “on the books taking away voter rights?”
They are taking away college voting, they are taking away early voting, and voting on Sundays. Just to name a few.
 
does this fit into your civil rights narrative ?

First it was the kid in OH, now a girl in MO. But, it doesn't matter because it's just more black on white crime, which is far more common than the reverse.




That's because your culture supports that behavior and lifestyle. Asian Americans used to be on the poorer end of the spectrum as well and have faced lots of discrimination, but they differ in two ways: 1) hard work and 2) belief and focus on education. They are now the top earning ethnic group in not only the U.S., but globally. Why? Culture. Same for Jews and other ethnic groups.
The Asians help you guys get rid of AA, but again we have poor schools, poor jobs, and poor housing. Yes, its a culture of racism and discrimination.
 
The Asians help you guys get rid of AA, but again we have poor schools, poor jobs, and poor housing. Yes, its a culture of racism and discrimination.

Asians are doing what now?

Yea, you have those things because the majority of black children are born out of wedlock and to dysfunctional households. It's all part of that whole culture thing that you keep dismissing. You are claiming they are cause, when they are actually effects.
 
Asians are doing what now?

Yea, you have those things because the majority of black children are born out of wedlock and to dysfunctional households. It's all part of that whole culture thing that you keep dismissing. You are claiming they are cause, when they are actually effects.
Not all black families are dysfunctional, yet you do not want to admit your policies of racism, poor schools, or redlining. You say nothing about all the property white people have stolen or the plight of black farmers. You know nothing about black people.
 
They are taking away college voting, they are taking away early voting, and voting on Sundays. Just to name a few.
You actually haven’t named any. And who is “they” - it’s always the proverbial “they” - and where are “they” doing all this “taking away?”

A little short on specifics.
 
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They are taking away college voting, they are taking away early voting, and voting on Sundays. Just to name a few.

Why would taking away college voting affect black people, Willdog? Wouldn't it disproportionately benefit them?
 
Not all black families are dysfunctional, yet you do not want to admit your policies of racism, poor schools, or redlining. You say nothing about all the property white people have stolen or the plight of black farmers. You know nothing about black people.

Literally > 2 out of ever 3 are born into dysfunction and that's not including the shitty parents that are present.

In 1991, 68% of black children were born outside of marriage (where 'marriage' is defined with a government-issued license).[4] In 2011, 72% of black babies were born to unmarried mothers,[5][6] while the 2018 National Vital Statistics Report provides a figure of 69.4 percent for this condition
 
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You actually haven’t named any. And who is “they” - it’s always the proverbial “they” - and where are “they” doing all this “taking away?”

A little short on specifics.
Your gop legislature in several states Texas, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi Georgia, and Tennesee just to name a few,
 
Literally > 2 out of ever 3 are born into dysfunction and that's not including the shitty parents that are present.

In 1991, 68% of black children were born outside of marriage (where 'marriage' is defined with a government-issued license).[4] In 2011, 72% of black babies were born to unmarried mothers,[5][6] while the 2018 National Vital Statistics Report provides a figure of 69.4 percent for this condition
The white fathers were even higher, you know why . There were more of them but nobody talks about that.
 
Thanks for ruining economic progress Libs


JDB, your post offers an interesting take on how a bipartisan bill dealing with a broad range of initiatives (national defense, funding businesses, hiring employees, etc.) can become controversial once administered by the executive branch.

This CATO Institute commentary article illustrates all the strings attached to this bill which can and might be challenged in court or in the public political arena.

On the subject of DEI the article in part states...

Third, there’s a random assortment of social policy baked into the subsidy application. For example, applicants must provide an “equity strategy” discussing the specific steps they’ll take “to attract economically disadvantaged individuals and promote diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility” (DEIA). (This DEIA factor is also one of the aforementioned “Good Jobs Principles” that applicants are encouraged to adopt.)
 
JDB, your post offers an interesting take on how a bipartisan bill dealing with a broad range of initiatives (national defense, funding businesses, hiring employees, etc.) can become controversial once administered by the executive branch.

This CATO Institute commentary article illustrates all the strings attached to this bill which can and might be challenged in court or in the public political arena.

On the subject of DEI the article in part states...

Third, there’s a random assortment of social policy baked into the subsidy application. For example, applicants must provide an “equity strategy” discussing the specific steps they’ll take “to attract economically disadvantaged individuals and promote diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility” (DEIA). (This DEIA factor is also one of the aforementioned “Good Jobs Principles” that applicants are encouraged to adopt.)
Why do these acronyms always grow in length? DEIA now?
 
governments and nonprofit foundations have lost their minds over deia etc. every application - how has your organization incorporated, how has your board incorporated, how do you incorporate deia in your programs, how do you measure the impeact of deia in your programs, just on and on. i've volunteered for decades and with the advent of all this endless crap it's really losing its appeal. and the money floating around for stuff is out there. so much money available
Why do these acronyms always grow in length? DEIA now?
 
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Why do these acronyms always grow in length? DEIA now?

Good question.

The "A" in accordance with Executive Order 14035 adds "Accessibility" to DEI.

The explanation being without accessibility for the handicapped attempts to achieve diversity, equity, and inclusion cannot be achieved.
 
Even a random paragraph break in the middle third of that would have been appreciated.
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