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Dear Mr Dolson, you already hired a gun slingin’ sh!t talkin’ gangster …

Here's an angle to I've thrown out there that nobody seems to think about.

This is gonna be Dolson's hire. He gets to choose who is the coach. I'm sure he's under immense pressure to hire the correct guy.

With all the coaches in the world, and this being a top 10 job in America (and yes, just because we've made terrible coaching hires doesn't negate what we have to offer in terms of resources, NIL, facilities, ect), why would Dolson take a risk on someone that has that kind of baggage?

Sure, it could absolutely go perfectly fine with no hiccups, but if it doesn't, oh buddy, the backlash that would come down would be like no other.

I've heard Dolson isn't gonna risk putting the university in that situation when there are other routes to go.
Who did you hear from that said “Dolson isn’t gonna risk putting the university in that situation”?
 
Any heat would be illusory, IMO.

Why did the folks at Ole Miss not have any problem hiring him? You think they want him to leave?

This “heat” is the single biggest reason our basketball program has become so ordinary and moribund.


Didn't Ole Miss lose yesterday at home to miss st?

the only reason some of you guys want beard is b/c he coached w bobby at Tech. that's it.

c'mon, dudes. are we EVER going to move foreward?
 
Because that's what most normal Americans think. Why would IU do that? Just b/c Beard is a decent coach who worked for Knight?

Had he not worked for Knight, would you still want him?
Alf, first off, my question wasn’t directed to you. I just wanted to know where Baller heard that “Dolson wasn’t going to put IU in that position”. I’m good with inside information if it’s legit. Secondly, now that you’re in the mix, I’m trying to decipher what you mean by “most normal Americans”?
This post started by saying just hire Beard.
Obviously Dolson isn’t going to hire him or any other candidate without interviews. Im guessing most mean that he should be a candidate (and not just because he worked with RMK). The guy is definitely one of the top 10 coaches in the country, but is also one of the few coaches that would definitely say yes to IU if offered(based on past comments by him). If he is interviewed
(and he should be), and Dolson/Whitten feel he is the best candidate to get IU back to the desired culture, the that is who we should support…even your so-called normal Americans. Chill out dude. It will all work out. And by the way, who do you like?
None of our opinions will matter anyway. We just have to trust those opinions that do. That’s what they get paid for.
 
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

^^^^ Beard's offense ^^^^

Dolson gets lucky on a hire, the coach has 1 good season and now he's a coaching search guru. Hilarious.

And how do you know he got lucky?

Dolson made a good choice, let's see if he makes another one for basketball.
 
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We don’t have a reputation to tarnish either. We used to, but that ship sailed a long time ago…mostly because we were more concerned with protecting our reputation (or what we thought our reputation was) than we were with winning.

Kentucky hired Calipari. Did he have skeletons in his closet when they did? Did doing so tarnish their reputation?
In fairness, when Calipari was hired, they were what, ten years removed from their "death penalty"? In their case, it just kind.of reenforced their reputation.
 
So nothing has changed? Sounded as if something had.
It's the bite marks that have me scratching my head about the "official" story. Can't always judge events by the wrapping that lawyers decide to package it in.

That neat story seems to be good enough for a good number of people, but I'd be surprised if it's good enough for Dolson.
 
It's the bite marks that have me scratching my head about the "official" story. Can't always judge events by the wrapping that lawyers decide to package it in.

That neat story seems to be good enough for a good number of people, but I'd be surprised if it's good enough for Dolson.
I don't think IU talks to him, esp with a female POTU but guilty until proven innocent is the reality of domestic situations. Terrence Shannon was an exception.
 
I don't think IU talks to him, esp with a female POTU but guilty until proven innocent is the reality of domestic situations. Terrence Shannon was an exception.

I'm confident Dolson will (has) done his due diligence when I comes to Beard. He'll have access to much more then what we have from the media.. being able to go directly to people at Texas, ect, to hear the story why he left there without putting up a fight for his job.
 
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HE was not talking about the basketball program's reputation, he was talking about the university reputation. Ole miss is a garbage school. Athletic scandals hurt alumni giving to the university, by millions of dollars at high standards schools. You may only care about winning basketball and be willing to hire a scum bag that sullies the schools reputation just by walking on campus, but the people paid to protect the universty DO care about how they are perceived by their donors, peers and alumni. And having a winning basketball team is just not that damned important in the grand scheme of their responsibilities, nor should it be.
The same IU that is ranked 15th in the B1G academically. Pristine 😂
 
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Now do Ole Miss
The majority of the SEC is garbage. Throw out Vandy and UGA and what do you get? Quit moving rhr goalposts. Do you know what the 2 Clemson FB nattys have done for applications and admission requirements? Imagine IUBB AND IUFB as national powers? Quit thinking that IU is a respected educational institution just because you think it is. When I went to to med school there I was blinded by all the academic types telling us how special it would be that we had a by God IUSM education. Guess what? I left Indiana 28 years ago and it means exactly Jack squat
 
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I'm confident Dolson will (has) done his due diligence when I comes to Beard. He'll have access to much more then what we have from the media.. being able to go directly to people at Texas, ect, to hear the story why he left there without putting up a fight for his job.
There’s the PR worries…the moral issues…and then what I think is the actual reason Beard won’t get a look… the constant risk that they’d be one bad night away from having to cancel/fire him. And that risk won’t go away. 10 years from now…perfect gentleman for all of that time…and he gets drunk and gets in to an altercation. Fired immediately. Or 5 years from now, Fiancé has a rough stretch herself, and feels like doing a “tell all”…truth or not, fired immediately.
 
The majority of the SEC is garbage. Throw out Vandy and UGA and what do you get? Quit moving rhr goalposts. Do you know what the 2 Clemson FB nattys have done for applications and admission requirements? Imagine IUBB AND IUFB as national powers? Quit thinking that IU is a respected educational institution just because you think it is. When I went to to med school there I was blinded by all the academic types telling us how special it would be that we had a by God IUSM education. Guess what? I left Indiana 28 years ago and it means exactly Jack squat
Why the bitterness? Sorry it didn't work out for you. Most of us are proud of our IU diplomas and allowed it to work well for us.
 
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Believe if you want to or not, i really dont care. I've been pretty spot on when I bring stuff to the board.

As it stands now, he's not even in the book for potential candidates.
So now you’re stating you’ve not only heard that Dolson isn’t going to take a risk on Beard, but he also has a book of candidates. All I’m asking for is proof of your inside info. If it’s legit I’ll never suggest Beard as a candidate.
Wait.. what’s this I read from you at 8:38am? You said Dolson will do his due diligence on Beard. Why would Dolson even look into Beard if he isn’t even in the so called “book”?
Come on man. Just quit talking.
 
but is also one of the few coaches that would definitely say yes to IU if offered(based on past comments by him).
I've read plenty of comments by him about Knight, but not about Indiana. Never heard him say it's his dream job. In fact, he worked with Knight when Bob hated IU about as much as he possibly could. So, when has he ever said he aspires to go to Indiana? I'm not trying to argue with you, I just have Googled lots of interviews and I can't find any specific love for Bloomington, just Knight. I fear sometimes people project more onto this guy than is actually in his head/heart. I'm happy to be proven wrong if someone can point me to a quote, an article, anything that says he would love to coach at IU.
 
So now you’re stating you’ve not only heard that Dolson isn’t going to take a risk on Beard, but he also has a book of candidates. All I’m asking for is proof of your inside info. If it’s legit I’ll never suggest Beard as a candidate.
Wait.. what’s this I read from you at 8:38am? You said Dolson will do his due diligence on Beard. Why would Dolson even look into Beard if he isn’t even in the so called “book”?
Come on man. Just quit talking.

I don't say this very often and for only those that deserve it, but you are about the biggest idiot on these boards, and that's saying something.

You took a phrase I made up of a book and used it a literal way.

Jesus, sometimes stupid rises to the top... here you are.
 
So now you’re stating you’ve not only heard that Dolson isn’t going to take a risk on Beard, but he also has a book of candidates. All I’m asking for is proof of your inside info. If it’s legit I’ll never suggest Beard as a candidate.
Wait.. what’s this I read from you at 8:38am? You said Dolson will do his due diligence on Beard. Why would Dolson even look into Beard if he isn’t even in the so called “book”?
Come on man. Just quit talking.
IU hired a search firm last week. I'm certain that they've compiled a list of candidates that meet his stated criteria. I'm sure he'll conduct his due diligence on most candidates that are presented to him. Beard may or may not be on that list. If there's anything about being free of off campus issues that lead to termination by a previous employer, well.....

Dolson can select a candidate. He can negotiate terms with said candidate. When it's all said and done, he has to get Pam Whitten's approval, and the BOT approval. Beard would be DOA.

Anyway, why would you think anyone would divulge their source of "inside" info, in a free message board, to the likes of you 😄
 
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I've read plenty of comments by him about Knight, but not about Indiana. Never heard him say it's his dream job. In fact, he worked with Knight when Bob hated IU about as much as he possibly could. So, when has he ever said he aspires to go to Indiana? I'm not trying to argue with you, I just have Googled lots of interviews and I can't find any specific love for Bloomington, just Knight. I fear sometimes people project more onto this guy than is actually in his head/heart. I'm happy to be proven wrong if someone can point me to a quote, an article, anything that says he would love to coach at IU.
Love for IU or not, he is an elite coach who would definitely say yes. Maybe the only one of his caliber who would be a definite yes if asked. That shouldn’t be scoffed at.
 
Not sure what your major was but you may want to research specific rankings for disciplines. Better than what many want to believe.
He was in med school but agree with you disciplines are important. At the end of the day if you are not underemployed it’s about the best you can expect nearly everywhere.
 
Worst case for me is Calipari. The Arkansas donors and the IU donors are drinking the same bitter medicine. Their’s is even a bit worse.
 
The majority of the SEC is garbage. Throw out Vandy and UGA and what do you get? Quit moving rhr goalposts. Do you know what the 2 Clemson FB nattys have done for applications and admission requirements? Imagine IUBB AND IUFB as national powers? Quit thinking that IU is a respected educational institution just because you think it is. When I went to to med school there I was blinded by all the academic types telling us how special it would be that we had a by God IUSM education. Guess what? I left Indiana 28 years ago and it means exactly Jack squat
FWIW , Texas, A&M and Florida???? are all well regarded. The rest are shit.
 
So that means it's OK for them to hire someone you keep calling immoral, unethical, and lacking character?

You're confused. The rep of a winning basketball program has nothing to do with the upstanding moral character of its coaches. You're talking about two different things, while taking shots at another university that you think has no morals because it doesn't have a historic success in basketball. I can just hear their board of trustees in a meeting:

"should we hire this guy? We think he beat his girlfriend."

"Sure, who cares? we don't win much in basketball so no one will care."

If we had hired a football coach last year who you thought beat his wife, would you have cared? Would the fan base? The local media? Of course they would have, despite IU "never being know for" their football program and "zero history" there.
I’m not the one confused. No, it’s not ok. I’d be livid if I was an Ole Miss grad. Im not. I don’t care about what they do. You asked why they hired him and I gave a reason. I really don’t know or care. Not sure what you are arguing about here.
 
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I’m not the one confused. No, it’s not ok. I’d be livid if I was an Ole Miss grad. Im not. I care about what they do. You asked why they hired him and I gave a reason. I really don’t know or care. Not sure what you are arguing about here.
So you think the background investigation they claim they did showed that he was a raging alcoholic and abuser, but they hired him anyway because they don't care about image?
 
Why am I "trying to pull all of IU down?" Because I asked a question? Skip the ad hominem and try to focus on the topic at hand.

Your "reasoning" is as confused as zeke's. Why would a school's academic reputation* have anything to do with the moral character of its basketball coach?

Has Kansas's academic reputation sunk "below Southern Indiana" because they still have Bill Self? No.

Did Xavier's rankings slip because they rehired Sean Miller? No.

Did North Carolina's reputation as a superior academic public school (much higher renowned than Indiana) suffer when the cheating with made-up classes surface? No.

*Academic rep and moral "high standards" also don't necessarily go hand-in-hand. Check out the Water Cooler for discussion of the rampant anti-semitism on elite campuses and their cowardly administrations.
You’re getting more condescending every post. I’m not really sure what your reasoning is here. Are you trying to make excuses in advance for hiring Beard? Or are you just trying to be argumentative? You actually think North Carolina’s reputation didn’t suffer after their academic scandal? And you’rs calling other people confused? Sorry, but you, sir, are no Brad Stevens.
 
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