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The real knuckleheads are the ones in the administration who self reported. Sampson was a good coach. Eric Gordon helped make him so.
We hired his equivalent - Kelvin Sampson.
The guy we should have gone after this time is Chris Beard. I'll never figure out why we didn't go hard after him.
What's he won more than Alford? Conference championships? FF appearances?
He wins, but so does Alford. What's the difference?
Yep. The donors love Dolson.
Sad to say, but at IU, bringing in the money far outweighs winning.
The donors must not care about basketball much or they would have ponied up for a big name coach by now.
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Medicre career since? Alford won 75% of his games at NewMexico, had 2 S16 at blue blood UCLA, and is in year 3 of a TEN year contractual at Nevada.
Because the Texas job was open and the only job Chris Beard was leaving Texas Tech for was Texas, his alma mater.
He failed to get out of the S16 with 5 drafted NBA players (three of them first rounders) and another 5* guard. He's the epitome of an underachiever. He's never gotten past the S16 and he's been a head coach almost 30 years. He took over a perfectly stable Nevada program and is currently running it into the ground.
We fired a guy who made 2 sweet 16s and a FF - and most of us thought we waited far too long to do so.
Steve Alford was a great player and an IU legend. He is a below-average coach. Besides, the guy we have now was a great player and an IU legend - yet some of you douchebags are ready to dump him after year 1. If Alford had achieved here what he achieved at Iowa and UCLA, you would have wanted him gone just like you wanted Mike Davis, Tom Crean, and Archie Miller gone.
No one is saying hire him today. That ship has long since sailed. The time to hire him was in 2001 or after Sampson was fired. We'll never know how he would've done here.
Why use revisionist history to advocate for a guy who has been decidedly average since 2001? If Steve Alford was currently at a blue blood competing for national titles every year that's one thing, but he was run off at Iowa, fired from another blue-blood whose in much better shape today than we he left, and is currently running a solid mid-major program back into the ground. He's not a good coach. My guess is Alford would have been fired over a decade ago had IU hired him in 2001, his resume speaks for itself.
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I never said to hire Alford. I am all for giving Woodson the time he needs. Some of you douchebags like to twist words to fit your narratives. I did say and still believe that Mike Davis NEVER should have been hired. It changed the course of IU bball to what we are now.
Wanted him gone? 2 Sweet 16s?
People will worship the next coach who gets us 2 Sweet 16s.
Where you do guys come up with this 'Alford is below average coach"?
I am almost certian they did not make a run at him. It sounds like we tried for Brad Stevens and after that is was Woodson and nobody else. Even though rumors were Scott Drew was interested.
I could not stand crean but knowing we fired him to hire somebody much worse is just painful. You are correct the next coach to get us to a sweet sixeteen will be a god. That is how low our program has fallen
I'm honestly not sure Crean is better than Archie. Have you compared his 4 years at UGA to Archie's at IU? Crean got very lucky by having Cody and Yogi fall into his lap. Also, Archie beat Syracuse in the tourney.
I was going off his IU years when he had his little run and did well on recruiting. Needless to say neither one of them is very good and Archie did so bad a few sweet sixeteens looked like a national title at this point. Crean was on a roll with recruiting for a year or so got blackman, Vonleh, lyles who decommitted, Williams, Yogi, etc.
27 years and 11 appearances. Screams great coach. Lol 22 years and 9 appearances for Crean. Same frigin coach.
Pearl has won more at tougher jobs. He’s won everywhere he’s been. And he’s super likable. He’s what we need to bring the fanbase back together.
Chris Beard wasn't coming to Indiana in the first place, let alone in a year where the Texas job was open.
This isn't rocket science. Nobody from IU ever made a run at Chris Beard because Chris Beard has zero desire to leave the state of Texas. It's well-documented.
But didn't he once invite a recruit over to a barbecue while coaching at Tennessee? We can't have a coach like that at IU.
He was hit with a 3 year show cause because of that incident and another assistant at a different program was convicted of a federal crime. Have you always been this big of a douchebag?
These posts from people….Alford and pearl. Lmao. Alford absolutely blew his IU audition at Iowa. Pearl will not be coaching a blue blood. Former or current. Ever.
"well-documented". By whom? Journalists? Message boards?
You must be very gullible. People proclaim their allegiance to a school or state all the time and then leave for more money
I'll bet you watch CNN, too.
Tougher jobs than Iowa? Who has won anything at Iowa?
Missouri State, whom he took to the Sweet 16?
New Mexico, which he took to the Sweet 16?
Likeable to who? Whoever he can bamboozle to come play for him Give me a break.
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He’s the same as Crean for gods sake. He sucks too. 27 years and 11 ncaa tournaments. Yes…he sucks.
There's a reason why Beard has coached for nearly the entirety of his career in west Texas, either as an assistant or at the D2 level. He went through a terrible divorce and didn't have custody of his kids who all live in Abilene. He was never leaving west Texas while his kids were school-aged.
I do my own research thank you. Beard to IU wasn't an option.
Good lord. Give it up. I get it. He’s the IU fans pet. You where probably kin to the folks who threw a massive fit when the Pacers drafted Miller.I'm glad you're not prone to hyperbole.
He could be a 2 hour plane ride from his kids in Indy.
Your 'research' is only what you read from message boards.
You give it up. Saying Alfor sucks as a coach is about as stupid as it gets.
You may not want him - obviously you don't - but you don't have to tell lies to justify it.
He's not spending time with his kids in west Texas coaching basketball in Bloomington IN during the middle of the week nor are they flying to Indy every other Tuesday.
You couldn't be a bigger dumbass if you tried.
