People hating on the words of talking head Dakich, yet they know every thought he’s ever verbalized regarding IU. People need to understand what the media has known for years- drama, in the form of controversial statements, is what drives the ratings upward. Dakich is just doing his job, working for “The Man”. If he irritates you when you don’t like being irritated, eliminate the irritant by not listening to his show. If you are listening just for something to bitch about, continue on, secure in the knowledge that you’re making him more successful in doing so. “Hi, Dan! Personally, I like your show and would love to buy you a beer someday and listen to how you really feel. That said, I don’t listen to your show very often, only because I’m retired now and have other things to satisfy my life during those particular hours. If I ever do feel the need to be pissed off, it’s more convenient to find Facebook than it is a radio to listen to your show at some particular dial on the knob-I’m old school, in keeping with the retired old fart tradition. I no longer let the minor things get in the way of my enjoyment of life, later stage that it is.
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My understanding when he made the comment...he was talking about Lou Henson and Ill offering 100k to Eric and Eric choosing to come to IU despite the offer. Back then it was clear that Illinois did this often particularly Chicago area recruits. I did not listen to the whole show but that's how I heard it during the portion I tuned in.
So when Dakich says 'Eric Anderson didn't need $100,000 to come to Indiana like the current hero'....he's not suggesting that Archie cheated or had an unscrupulous advantage?
That's an interesting interpretation.
How about when he said Eric had the opportunity to take the money from Henson...which is an implied comparison? That's more of a hidden slam but maybe I'm just mis-characterizing again with my sea of lies.
Do I really have to explain this? The comments were about Langford’s motivation to choose IU. There is no evidence of any kind of impropriety between Archie and the Langfords or Archie and Addidas. Even the Addidas AAU payment in and of itself isn’t illegal, but a reasonable person could conclude that that is why he chose IU. It doesn’t mean Archie cheated.
Let’s be perfectly clear here...you have no idea who’s “innocent” or “guilty”...you just don’t.
And neither do I.
So either of us claiming either way is equally ridiculous.
I find it so entertaining how everyone has made a complete 180 in terms of how they view shoe companies influencing recruits since Romeo.
Since we landed Romeo this went from being dirty and an indictment on the coach to no big deal, coach has nothing to do with it. I wonder why...
Since we landed Romeo this went from being dirty and an indictment on the coach to no big deal, coach has nothing to do with it. I wonder why...
I knew there had to be a hidden reason as to why Knight openly hated Henson, leading Henson to call Knight his now infamous words of "classic bully". Henson cheated. Knight didn't.
Are you intentionally obtuse for a living? Once again, you make a blanket statement about what the fan base thinks and oversimplify the comparison to make some completely absurd point, in some warped effort to make us all feel guilty about something we as a group never believed in the first place. You know full well that the basis for this board's railing on the corruption in college basketball has been over players getting paid in return for choosing a school, with direct involvement by the program. The reason no one is seemingly wringing their hands over Langford is because anyone with half a brain (or no pathetic agenda to push) can see that Romeo's dad getting paid to coach an AAU team has no correlation to him choosing IU. The coaching staff wasn't even in place in Bloomington to have any influence in the matter, and if the mere presence of a shoe company sponsoring a summer league team is the issue, there was nothing to compel him to choose IU over any of the hundreds of schools aligned with the same shoe company.
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I'm not bashing but I'm asking. 2-3 years ago how many of you would honestly be onboard with that kind of recruiting tactic? I've read on here for years the bashing of Calipari and the likes for doing questionable recruiting tactics to ensure 5 star and one and done players. Dakich criticizing this is something bunches of you have done in the past. While I guess it is legal is it something you want associated with your program? It's quite obvious Dakich doesn't, stating pride in the program. I think he cares for IU BB and has stated numerous times he thinks they will be in the Top 10 before the season is over. I think Crean might have been bashed for it if were him. Again I'm just asking because it seems like a lot of programs are doing that. I'm not judging, just asking!!!
What recruiting tactic are you even talking about? I mean seriously what did IU do?
Adidas sponsored Tim Langford's AAU team before Archie Miller even became head coach. It had nothing to do with IU and it was completely legal. A few of the other schools on his list were also Adidas schools so there is literally no proof that it even pushed him to IU. Was IU not supposed to recruit him because of his dad's legal AAU team 2 years ago?
Dan Dakich's goal was to start a circle jerk for Purdue fans and to rile IU fans up for ratings. At the expense of a kid and a family that have done nothing wrong, all while dragging IU's own through the mud. That's my problem with him and why I think he's an absolute clown and joke of a human being.
IU did nothing wrong either it's all just hopeful conspiracy theory stuff for rival schools to get off on.
Nobody wanted Crean here because he was a shitty coach that didn't win enough, bottom line. If he was landing kids like Langford it would have likely taken care of itself. Now go back to your board and stop asking stupid questions that have no merit.
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looks like this has spun sideways almost as much as the same topic on GBI. This is why DD shouldn't have said it....his comments took the focus immediately from Eric's passing, to shoe company payments and Lou-Doo payoffs. Someone mentioned earlier- Dakich must be loving it....used Eric's death to increase interest (good or bad) in his brand on the air. Just wish he could have said some nice things about Eric as a person, and kept his mouth shut regarding anything else. Maybe I'm just getting old and out of touch.
I am not onboard with that recruiting tactic. If shoe companies are influencing player choice of school by paying parents or AAU funding, even if it is legal or even if it occurs before the player has been offerred a schollie, then it is a violation of recruiting ethics at the very least. I am not onboard with that, no.
But I don't have any information to weigh judgment and even if Dan does, he has not come forward with it.
But I don't have any information to weigh judgment and even if Dan does, he has not come forward with it.
I listened to the segment and I think Dan’s feelings were genuine. He wasn’t trolling. He was emotional about Anderson and he was just getting it off his chest.
So, because Romeo's dad had an AAU team that Adidas sponsored (legally I might add) IU wasn't supposed to recruit him? Do you even know how stupid that sounds? Dan, is this you?
Have fun landing any players worth a damn or winning anything of note with that mentality. Also, enjoy watching the top programs (Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UNC ect..) go in dry every chance they get. Trust me, I know their fans won't feel bad.
Choppy, your passive aggressive comments are irritating, but we know that you are an idiot. What recruiting tactics from IU are you writing about? IU has nothing to do with Adidas and Romeo's dad. Why are you trying to implicate Archie as doing something wrong? Archie was not even the coach of IU when Romeo's dad organized the team.
Please comment on CSwanigan's guardian, an agent and a broilee grad, forcing Caleb to join the broilee team after CS clearly picked MSU as where he wanted to play. CS had his agent force him to go to broileeland. I just assume PorkChop must have paid the agent and CS to come to Lafayette to underachieve. See how easy it is to accuse and infer? Choppy, you are sloppy, and a FattMatt loser.
Before you get an answer, maybe give us your thoughts on the recruiting tactics of Frank Kendrick re: Luther Clay.
I don't know the details of the AAU situation. But suffice it to say the funding of that organization is akin to buying influence. It is recruiting done by a business instead of a school, with Adidas holding sway over branding negotiations when they "deliver".
It is slimy business and certainly breaks the rules of what amateurism is. What is a recruiting violation if buying a high school kid through your adidas rep isn't one of them? I could care less what UK and Duke are doing.
They should probably get rid of shoe contracts with schools altogether and just let the high level kids have personal contracts before they ever go to college, that way they can stop complaining about how terrible a free college education is.
To answer your specific question (there are a ton of themes in this thread which makes for good reading) if Archie is cheating, particularly in a Bill Self way, then he should be shot into the sun.
That would be more damaging to our reputation than any silly one year player.
The issue for me is we haven't established a pattern yet. The recruiting narrative isn't any different than what every coach has been able to do.
We've always gotten five and four stars, especially from the Midwest.
Chris Holtman has signed a couple of five stars...where are his accusations?
There hasn't been a kid in my mind with a funny recruiting narrative. There's been no Noah Vonleh's who probably couldn't point to Indiana on a map. There's been no Thomas Bryant's who witnessed Crean get showered with boos, who again probably couldn't find Indiana on a map commit (along with a billion other east coast kids).
There are no Shittu's, Barrett's and Makur's who have known handlers who surprise everyone and commit.
Make fun of the crystal balls all you want but recruiting stories tend to be straight forward. When a Zion picks Duke out of nowhere or a DeSousa picks Kansas out of nowhere... that's a funny recruitment.
Anyway, I believe Romeo fell into our lap thanks to the FBI. I believe he chose IU thinking of his local brand. I don't think he would have if the FBI didn't attack Louisville and Kansas.
As far as the AAU payment deal. One IU has nothing to do with that unless they are directing Adidas to direct him to IU. Obviously they weren't in the past. Seems like Kansas was their preferred pet.
Secondly a ton of player parents are getting paid by shoe companies to run a team. Al Durham's dad was. Trevon Bluett's dad was. I'm sure there has been a Purdue player's dad who coached and was paid by the shoe sponsor.
Dakich coached junior in AAU. I'm willing to bet he didn't front the travel money for the team.
Did Langford's dad possibly take advantage of it? Possibly. That's not an IU issue though in my opinion.
My original beef with Dakich is he's tying a AAU thing and making it an IU thing, which is quite the accusation and another example of him taking pot shots at us. So f#$k him. He's been nothing but a weight on this program since he first got here and was given Isaiah's number the year after he went pro.
Had he transferred to Ball State instead of Roway...we would have won more games and Dakich would be getting ready to retire from a life of insurance sales in the region.
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Vanderbilt was/is a Nike school. But i guess somebody with an agenda would just say they were never really a contender. That it was just to show no bias.
lol IU did nothing wrong bro. Archie wasn't even at IU yet, and he had nothing to do with who sponsored Tim Langford's AAU team.
Langford so far from what we've gathered took the money legally and I'm glad he was sponsored by Adidas. Because if not (and he had other Adidas options)if Romeo went somewhere else I don't know how we would score outside of Morgan.
I'm glad we got him for a year legally because he's a damn good player and he makes a big difference on this team.
I didn't mention Miller. Buying influence is like schmooze money when businesses wine and dine their clients, only in the case of pre-college or college athletes, it is against the rules. So they make sure all of the funneling occurs before a school ever gets involved and that way it appears clean.
In this case, whether it happened or not depends on who was paid and how much. A small stipend to coach a team and supply a few tournament fees is probably fine, but if it goes beyond that it is essentially stamping a shoe brand on a kid then helping to steer him to an appropriate school of good standing with the brand.
Let me reinforce that I am only speaking on a hypothetical. I do not know any details on if any excessive payments were made. I hope nothing like that happened.
This is a lot of you just filling in the blanks. No proof that any of this happened, and I seriously doubt it happened.
Keep joining Purdue fans in filling in the blanks though. IU is completely clean and will continue to be clean.
Should have ended that post after the first 3 words.
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He also has presented some pretty good observations to quite a few
listeners and viewers.
Why anyone would listen to the jaded mouth piece that was on the staff that cheated and set IU back a decade or more is beyond me. If only you could buy him for what he is worth and sell him for what he thinks he is worth. The guy is a friggin joke.
And your memory is held in such very high esteem hereabouts. As for "a different tune" - do you know anything that's not achey-man music?
Fine, you first. You can start by not making disingenuous leading remarks like the one above, which is effectively the same as saying, "No one here knows if you've had unprotected sex with livestock. Claiming to know for sure either way is silly and biased at best."
DD is clearly butthurt that he was not a part of the 30 for 30 episode. Inserting himself and calling names
Let's be honest. Neither one of us know if fpeaugh has sex with animals or not. It would be disengenuous for either of us to claim yes or no.
Let's be honest. Neither one of us know if fpeaugh has sex with animals or not. It would be disengenuous for either of us to claim yes or no.
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