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I said in one of these threads that Colvin would be in the portal and there it is. Had a decently long conversation with someone close to that situation back in October and knew if Colvin wasn't a consistent starter this would be his last at PU.

He comes with some fan baggage so it would be a pass for me if IU were looking, we all know how IU doesn't like baggage.
 
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TDHoosier said:
I said on one of these threads that Colvin would be in the portal and there it is. Had a decently long conversation with someone close to that situation back in October and knew if Colvin wasn't a consistent starter this would be his last at PU.

He comes with some fan baggage so it would be a pass for me if IU were looking, we all know how IU doesn't like baggage.
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I’d heard that also. What does fan baggage mean?
 
TDHoosier said:
I said in one of these threads that Colvin would be in the portal and there it is. Had a decently long conversation with someone close to that situation back in October and knew if Colvin wasn't a consistent starter this would be his last at PU.

He comes with some fan baggage so it would be a pass for me if IU were looking, we all know how IU doesn't like baggage.
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Baggage? No thanks
 
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TDHoosier said:
I said in one of these threads that Colvin would be in the portal and there it is. Had a decently long conversation with someone close to that situation back in October and knew if Colvin wasn't a consistent starter this would be his last at PU.

He comes with some fan baggage so it would be a pass for me if IU were looking, we all know how IU doesn't like baggage.
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He$$ of a player but I would never want a PU transfer
 
I saw that PU picked up Oscar Cluff in the portal, 6-11” center from South Dakota State. There is apparently no truth to the rumors he has two left feet, based upon name alone.
 
TDHoosier said:
I said in one of these threads that Colvin would be in the portal and there it is. Had a decently long conversation with someone close to that situation back in October and knew if Colvin wasn't a consistent starter this would be his last at PU.

He comes with some fan baggage so it would be a pass for me if IU were looking, we all know how IU doesn't like baggage.
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The fans are trashing him.

So gross
 
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I saw that PU picked up Oscar Cluff in the portal, 6-11” center from South Dakota State. There is apparently no truth to the rumors he has two left feet, based upon name alone.
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He's very good, overall. But also pretty redundant with TKR. He's a very good interior defender, but won't help them, on offense or defense, away from the basket...in all likelihood.

Painter is infinitely better than Woodson was at figuring out how to thrive with the guys he has, though. So I suspect his version of the 2 post offense and defense will be quite a bit more effective than what Woodson mostly tried.
 
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IUNorth said:
He's very good, overall. But also pretty redundant with TKR. He's a very good interior defender, but won't help them, on offense or defense, away from the basket...in all likelihood.

Painter is infinitely better than Woodson was at figuring out how to thrive with the guys he has, though. So I suspect his version of the 2 post offense and defense will be quite a bit more effective than what Woodson mostly tried.
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Neither of them need to be outside shooters. If they can make a few to make the defense respect them, I’d take it, but 1 a game between the two is sufficient. Plenty if good outside shooters on the team. Why not let the more efficient shooters shoot. Cluff was brought in to rebound and have another post presence if TKR is in foul trouble.
 
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BoilerN said:
Neither of them need to be outside shooters. If they can make a few to make the defense respect them, I’d take it, but 1 a game between the two is sufficient. Plenty if good outside shooters on the team. Why not let the more efficient shooters shoot. Cluff was brought in to rebound and have another post presence if TKR is in foul trouble.
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We'll see how Painter manages it. I'm sure better than Woodson did. But having 2 bigs "clogging" the lane, isn't ideal. And while he was a good defender for SDSU, he isn't going to help Purdue's overall defense...he isn't a rim protector, and he doesn't guard the perimeter well enough to be effective guarding the pick and roll stuff most teams employ.

You're talking about him like he's a backup/depth type guy. You already had one of those in Berg. Cluff is quite a lot more than a guy to solidify the post "with TKR". He's going to play 30+ minutes, I'm sure. Now Painter has to deal with the effects of that.
 
IUNorth said:
We'll see how Painter manages it. I'm sure better than Woodson did. But having 2 bigs "clogging" the lane, isn't ideal. And while he was a good defender for SDSU, he isn't going to help Purdue's overall defense...he isn't a rim protector, and he doesn't guard the perimeter well enough to be effective guarding the pick and roll stuff most teams employ.

You're talking about him like he's a backup/depth type guy. You already had one of those in Berg. Cluff is quite a lot more than a guy to solidify the post "with TKR". He's going to play 30+ minutes, I'm sure. Now Painter has to deal with the effects of that.
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What? Do you listen to what you say? I bet they both just stand in the paint at all times. Probably for 8 seconds at a time. Maybe hold hands. No action or anything. Painter probably has no idea what he’s doing either… “clogging” lol

I guess we will see how his defense translates, won’t we. Just a guess, if painter can guard the pick n roll with someone like Edey, who was just tall, then he can figure it out with cluff.

The backup depth thing, I never said or acted like that. But thanks for confirming that cluff is a really good addition.
 
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none of this matters if someone is able to purchase Smith's departure. PU's fate next yr begins and ends there.
I think he stays, but have heard some crazy dollar amounts being mentioned. And chance to play for some up-tempo SEC teams.
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Most of his NIL is portable. He has been smart to strike deals with Stanley and a shoe company plus apparently does some NIL for a Tesla dealership to get a lease. He doesn't have to rely on PU for NIL.
 
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What? Do you listen to what you say? I bet they both just stand in the paint at all times. Probably for 8 seconds at a time. Maybe hold hands. No action or anything. Painter probably has no idea what he’s doing either… “clogging” lol

I guess we will see how his defense translates, won’t we. Just a guess, if painter can guard the pick n roll with someone like Edey, who was just tall, then he can figure it out with cluff.

The backup depth thing, I never said or acted like that. But thanks for confirming that cluff is a really good addition.
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Really? You want to compare him to Edey as an interior defender? Edey was an elite rim protector because of his extreme height and length, and good footwork for his size.
Cluff averaged 0.8 blocks per game in a mid major league. I’m sure you will get some scoring and rebounding out of him, but he isn’t likely to help much on defense.
 
BoilerN said:
What? Do you listen to what you say? I bet they both just stand in the paint at all times. Probably for 8 seconds at a time. Maybe hold hands. No action or anything. Painter probably has no idea what he’s doing either… “clogging” lol

I guess we will see how his defense translates, won’t we. Just a guess, if painter can guard the pick n roll with someone like Edey, who was just tall, then he can figure it out with cluff.

The backup depth thing, I never said or acted like that. But thanks for confirming that cluff is a really good addition.
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Ha ha... Cluff isn't a rim protector. Nothing Painter did with Edey is applicable to what he'll do with Cluff, or any other big man, for that matter. He's a monstrous anomaly that had you guys in fairy tale land for a couple years.

Now...Cluff is a high level big... Maybe he'll end up being a good addition, maybe he'll end up having the Hunter Dickinson effect? Painter has been pretty good at figuring things like this out...but there are some dynamics to Cluff that don't make a ton of sense for Purdue.

I'll check back near the end of next season to see how Cluff's presence imapacts guys like Loyer and Cox... and then obviously TKR as well. We've lived through what having two post centric bigs can do to a team. The freedom of movement in the "lane" 100% will be changed, and will be different with both Cluff and TKR, as primary post scoring threats. Might end up being great. As I said, Painter is pretty good at adapting. But he's gonna have to change how he gets the perimeter guys involved, without question.

***edited to add... I hope he goes back to the exact stuff he did when Edey was here, and Edey was playing alongside TKR. Everything worked great back then. I'm sure Cluff will effectively mimic Edey's impact. Hope he plans on that for sure!!!!
 
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Courtsensetwo said:
The fans are trashing him.

So gross
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You are a serial fabulist. Your claim is false. I went to the GBI free board to check; anyone else can do this. The last thread begun there was March 23rd, before Colvin's announcement so where is the trashing there? That board is effectively dead. Over on GBI, in the KC board, people are sad to see him go but wish him well. On the free board on the Purdue Rivals site, there are 5 pages of posts with basically the same distribution of commentary. To claim that he is being "trashed" on the board is nonsense and anyone who thinks otherwise can simply go there and see for themselves because I did.

Classic courtsense, make things up.
 
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IUNorth said:
Ha ha... Cluff isn't a rim protector. Nothing Painter did with Edey is applicable to what he'll do with Cluff, or any other big man, for that matter. He's a monstrous anomaly that had you guys in fairy tale land for a couple years.

Now...Cluff is a high level big... Maybe he'll end up being a good addition, maybe he'll end up having the Hunter Dickinson effect? Painter has been pretty good at figuring things like this out...but there are some dynamics to Cluff that don't make a ton of sense for Purdue.

I'll check back near the end of next season to see how Cluff's presence imapacts guys like Loyer and Cox... and then obviously TKR as well. We've lived through what having two post centric bigs can do to a team. The freedom of movement in the "lane" 100% will be changed, and will be different with both Cluff and TKR, as primary post scoring threats. Might end up being great. As I said, Painter is pretty good at adapting. But he's gonna have to change how he gets the perimeter guys involved, without question.

***edited to add... I hope he goes back to the exact stuff he did when Edey was here, and Edey was playing alongside TKR. Everything worked great back then. I'm sure Cluff will effectively mimic Edey's impact. Hope he plans on that for sure!!!!
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Why would cluff’s presence hurt cox and Loyer? It’s like you are begging Purdue to suck. First it was they can’t afford people. Then it was they can afford to keep their own because they are Painter guys. Then it was they paid all their money to cluff.

Purdue is not iu. Not much to worry about here based on the past. Iu didn’t work because ballo didn’t fit the team and iu had zero shooters. But I told you this preseason. Just face it, Purdue has a top 20 roster and made a good addition.
 
IUNorth said:
Ha ha... Cluff isn't a rim protector. Nothing Painter did with Edey is applicable to what he'll do with Cluff, or any other big man, for that matter. He's a monstrous anomaly that had you guys in fairy tale land for a couple years.

Now...Cluff is a high level big... Maybe he'll end up being a good addition, maybe he'll end up having the Hunter Dickinson effect? Painter has been pretty good at figuring things like this out...but there are some dynamics to Cluff that don't make a ton of sense for Purdue.

I'll check back near the end of next season to see how Cluff's presence imapacts guys like Loyer and Cox... and then obviously TKR as well. We've lived through what having two post centric bigs can do to a team. The freedom of movement in the "lane" 100% will be changed, and will be different with both Cluff and TKR, as primary post scoring threats. Might end up being great. As I said, Painter is pretty good at adapting. But he's gonna have to change how he gets the perimeter guys involved, without question.

***edited to add... I hope he goes back to the exact stuff he did when Edey was here, and Edey was playing alongside TKR. Everything worked great back then. I'm sure Cluff will effectively mimic Edey's impact. Hope he plans on that for sure!!!!
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How about 12 boards a game? That makes a ton of sense. Only took six 3’s but made 4. Purdue must have been near the bottom of the NCAA in blocks last year. Rebounding was a problem. Jacobsen and Cuff will help remedy that. Pretty sure Painter can “figure” out how to use these guys and not hurt TKR’s production. We basically played the entire season without a 5 on the floor.
 
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TDHoosier said:
I said in one of these threads that Colvin would be in the portal and there it is. Had a decently long conversation with someone close to that situation back in October and knew if Colvin wasn't a consistent starter this would be his last at PU.

He comes with some fan baggage so it would be a pass for me if IU were looking, we all know how IU doesn't like baggage.
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This is what I was talking about on another thread.He isn't transferring. He is quitting. Why can't he buckle down and earn a starting spot?
 
apm1003 said:
You are a serial fabulist. Your claim is false. I went to the GBI free board to check; anyone else can do this. The last thread begun there was March 23rd, before Colvin's announcement so where is the trashing there? That board is effectively dead. Over on GBI, in the KC board, people are sad to see him go but wish him well. On the free board on the Purdue Rivals site, there are 5 pages of posts with basically the same distribution of commentary. To claim that he is being "trashed" on the board is nonsense and anyone who thinks otherwise can simply go there and see for themselves because I did.

Classic courtsense, make things up.
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There are other platforms out there dipshit. I haven't looked at GBI or on3
 
VanPastorMan said:
So he will become a better shooter at another school? What I worry about with all this is kids don't have to stick it out anymore.
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Stick it out for whom? It's a year to year team these days. PU seemed immune to it for awhile but they'll start seeing turnover too. The kids need to cash in while they can.

IU has what 3 players left between its 2 bball teams right now?
 
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Stick it out for whom? It's a year to year team these days. PU seemed immune to it for awhile but they'll start seeing turnover too. The kids need to cash in while they can.

IU has what 3 players left between its 2 bball teams right now?
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You got me thinking. The new system makes it easier for players to quit if the going gets tough or they get more money at a school. So there is no interest in those who created this system to develop young men and women. Plus with all these transfers then will less people graduate? So what are the adults in the room doing? No toughness. No loyalty. No love.
 
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How about 12 boards a game? That makes a ton of sense. Only took six 3’s but made 4. Purdue must have been near the bottom of the NCAA in blocks last year. Rebounding was a problem. Jacobsen and Cuff will help remedy that. Pretty sure Painter can “figure” out how to use these guys and not hurt TKR’s production. We basically played the entire season without a 5 on the floor.
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Cluff (not Cuff) will help you with rebounding and scoring. But like TKR, he isn’t going to help with rim protection and blocks. He averaged 0.8 blocks per game in an inferior league.
 
IUNorth said:
He's very good, overall. But also pretty redundant with TKR. He's a very good interior defender, but won't help them, on offense or defense, away from the basket...in all likelihood.

Painter is infinitely better than Woodson was at figuring out how to thrive with the guys he has, though. So I suspect his version of the 2 post offense and defense will be quite a bit more effective than what Woodson mostly tried.
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No doubt they want the offense and defense to look like it did with Edey. They needed rim protection this year and need to keep Renn out of foul trouble. I think this is a good fit for them.
 
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Cluff (not Cuff) will help you with rebounding and scoring. But like TKR, he isn’t going to help with rim protection and blocks. He averaged 0.8 blocks per game in an inferior league.
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Rebounding is what Purdue needed more than anything, so seems like a great addition.
 
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