COL Andrey Kislovsky, AFU Odessa local territorial defense leader..

[cosmickid]

Patton wanted to team up with Nazis and take on the Soviet Union.

I'm not supporting their white supremicist positions, but I can't blame Zelensky for not condemning them at this time, when they're effectively fighting the Russians.

Zelensky also said they had been integrated into the Ukranian military, so they supposedly aren't an autonomous unit anymore.

The only real aspect of Azov that still applies is the name- they were named for a Defense Minister. Roots go all the way back to around 1982 and soccer hooligans who were "fans" of FC Metalist Kharkiv who were closely allied with the "ultras" (hooligans) of Spartak Moscow. As often happens, these ultras took on the role of paramilitary force, but they were more anti-Separatist than anti-Russian. It's complicated similar to the rivalries and ethnic jealousies in the Baltic and former Yugoslavia- the line between good and bad guys is muddled, and there are centuries of hidden bitterness just waiting to be exploited...

When "the Azov Battalion "used the 2014 Russian invasion as a pretext and justification for their territorial squabbles with "separatists", the brutality and questionable Fascist symbolism caused Ukrainian ministers to speak out and most of the pro-Fascist elements ended up leaving to pursue more overtly political interests. They kept the name and enough of the old guard remained that Putin could claim the unit was "Nazi", but that isn't really true. The hardcore Nazis left, and what really makes the situation even more difficult to decipher is that for the most part Nazis in Europe idolize Putin (the Man). A perspective published way back in 2014...

STRANGE BEDFELLOWS: Putin and Europe's Far Right on JSTOR

Alina Polyakova, STRANGE BEDFELLOWS: Putin and Europe's Far Right, World Affairs, Vol. 177, No. 3 (SEPTEMBER / OCTOBER 2014), pp. 36-40

www.jstor.org

And it's really disingenuous of Putin to claim he's trying to "de-Nazify" Ukraine (or Europe in general) since most of the Right Wing elements thruout Western Europe are pro-Putin in their orientation. They see him as the "savior of White Nationalist culture" and he's spent a great deal of the past 2 decades cultivating that image and utilizing Russian agents working within these "Right Wing parties" to undermine Western European Govts.

Why Putin Is Bolstering Europe's Far-Right Populism

While U.S. intelligence agencies investigate claims that Russia secretly hacked emails to help tip last year’s elections in favor of Donald Trump, Russia’s push to bolster far-right populist politicians in Europe has been far more blatant.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Patton wanted to team up with Nazis and take on the Soviet Union.

I'm not supporting their white supremicist positions, but I can't blame Zelensky for not condemning them at this time, when they're effectively fighting the Russians.

Zelensky also said they had been integrated into the Ukranian military, so they supposedly aren't an autonomous unit anymore.

Please share more of Patton's opinion of his Bolshevik allies...

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

The only real aspect of Azov that still applies is the name- they were named for a Defense Minister. Roots go all the way back to around 1982 and soccer hooligans who were "fans" of FC Metalist Kharkiv who were closely allied with the "ultras" (hooligans) of Spartak Moscow. As often happens, these ultras took on the role of paramilitary force, but they were more anti-Separatist than anti-Russian. It's complicated similar to the rivalries and ethnic jealousies in the Baltic and former Yugoslavia- the line between good and bad guys is muddled, and there are centuries of hidden bitterness just waiting to be exploited...

When "the Azov Battalion "used the 2014 Russian invasion as a pretext and justification for their territorial squabbles with "separatists", the brutality and questionable Fascist symbolism caused Ukrainian ministers to speak out and most of the pro-Fascist elements ended up leaving to pursue more overtly political interests. They kept the name and enough of the old guard remained that Putin could claim the unit was "Nazi", but that isn't really true. The hardcore Nazis left, and what really makes the situation even more difficult to decipher is that for the most part Nazis in Europe idolize Putin (the Man). A perspective published way back in 2014...

STRANGE BEDFELLOWS: Putin and Europe's Far Right on JSTOR

Alina Polyakova, STRANGE BEDFELLOWS: Putin and Europe's Far Right, World Affairs, Vol. 177, No. 3 (SEPTEMBER / OCTOBER 2014), pp. 36-40

www.jstor.org

And it's really disingenuous of Putin to claim he's trying to "de-Nazify" Ukraine (or Europe in general) since most of the Right Wing elements thruout Western Europe are pro-Putin in their orientation. They see him as the "savior of White Nationalist culture" and he's spent a great deal of the past 2 decades cultivating that image and utilizing Russian agents working within these "Right Wing parties" to undermine Western European Govts.

Why Putin Is Bolstering Europe's Far-Right Populism

While U.S. intelligence agencies investigate claims that Russia secretly hacked emails to help tip last year’s elections in favor of Donald Trump, Russia’s push to bolster far-right populist politicians in Europe has been far more blatant.

www.nbcnews.com

The term 'Azov' originally described an area around the town of Azov.....for a thousand years. The area of swamp and tidal bars has been a bone of contention for hundreds of years.

Please name a more covert activity than warfare.

You don't know shit about the Alt Right.

The Alt-Right that I associate with are not National Socialists, but they are Nationalists.

The Alt-Right that I associate with support their own race, history, customs and ethic.

The Alt-Right I associate with enjoy Putin poking the Globalists in the eye. As usual, any scrutiny of the Zsky narrative leads to a litany of lies and faked video propaganda.

'We' are greatly enjoying the squirming and scurrying as the lights are switched on and the rats and cockroaches turn on each other.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

The term 'Azov' originally described an area around the town of Azov.....for a thousand years. The area of swamp and tidal bars has been a bone of contention for hundreds of years.

Please name a more covert activity than warfare.

You don't know shit about the Alt Right.

The Alt-Right that I associate with are not National Socialists, but they are Nationalists.

The Alt-Right that I associate with support their own race, history, customs and ethic.

The Alt-Right I associate with enjoy Putin poking the Globalists in the eye. As usual, any scrutiny of the Zsky narrative leads to a litany of lies and faked video propaganda.

'We' are greatly enjoying the squirming and scurrying as the lights are switched on and the rats and cockroaches turn on each other.

Wow. Just wow.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Wow. Just wow.

Yikes

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

The term 'Azov' originally described an area around the town of Azov.....for a thousand years. The area of swamp and tidal bars has been a bone of contention for hundreds of years.

Please name a more covert activity than warfare.

You don't know shit about the Alt Right.

The Alt-Right that I associate with are not National Socialists, but they are Nationalists.

The Alt-Right that I associate with support their own race, history, customs and ethic.

The Alt-Right I associate with enjoy Putin poking the Globalists in the eye. As usual, any scrutiny of the Zsky narrative leads to a litany of lies and faked video propaganda.

'We' are greatly enjoying the squirming and scurrying as the lights are switched on and the rats and cockroaches turn on each other.

Gross

 

[UncleMark]

Wow. Just wow.

Yikes

Gross

They live among us.

And they support Trump.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

They live among us.

And they support Trump.

There are an equal number of misguided Marxist radical militants on the left that would take down our country if given the resources. They just don’t post honestly on an Indiana-based forum.

 

[IUINSB]

They live among us.

And they support Trump.

They support whomever they feel advances their particular agenda.

 

[UncleMark]

They support whomever they feel advances their particular agenda.

Enough said.

 

[Bowlmania]

The Alt-Right I associate with enjoy Putin poking the Globalists in the eye

Putin's not doing much eye-poking these days. He's been humiliated in Ukraine. His military is poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly led, and they're suffering heavy losses at the hands of Ukrainian forces.

Looks like Putin wasn't quite the genius you and your favorite ex-president thought he was. He sucks. And you're pathetic.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

They support whomever they feel advances their particular agenda.

Who wouldn't? Who doesn't?

 

[DANC]

Please share more of Patton's opinion of his Bolshevik allies...

I don't have any more - just what is common knowledge.

 

[DANC]

Putin's not doing much eye-poking these days. He's been humiliated in Ukraine. His military is poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly led, and they're suffering heavy losses at the hands of Ukrainian forces.

Looks like Putin wasn't quite the genius you and your favorite ex-president thought he was. He sucks. And you're pathetic.

He was smart enough to bluff - and continue to bluff - Biden into not intervening by providing jets to Ukraine.

Of course, that's not saying much. Any mention of Trump and Russian collusion gives any Democrat the vapors.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

Who wouldn't? Who doesn't?

Well, non-sociopaths for starters. Supporting one’s own interests over all and not seeing favorable compromise is pretty sad.

 

[Noodle]

The term 'Azov' originally described an area around the town of Azov.....for a thousand years. The area of swamp and tidal bars has been a bone of contention for hundreds of years.

Please name a more covert activity than warfare.

You don't know shit about the Alt Right.

The Alt-Right that I associate with are not National Socialists, but they are Nationalists.

The Alt-Right that I associate with support their own race, history, customs and ethic.

The Alt-Right I associate with enjoy Putin poking the Globalists in the eye. As usual, any scrutiny of the Zsky narrative leads to a litany of lies and faked video propaganda.

'We' are greatly enjoying the squirming and scurrying as the lights are switched on and the rats and cockroaches turn on each other.

Well I guess you’ve just admitted what most of us already know. You’ve officially taken off your hood, I suppose.

 

[zeke4ahs]

The term 'Azov' originally described an area around the town of Azov.....for a thousand years. The area of swamp and tidal bars has been a bone of contention for hundreds of years.

Please name a more covert activity than warfare.

You don't know shit about the Alt Right.

The Alt-Right that I associate with are not National Socialists, but they are Nationalists.

The Alt-Right that I associate with support their own race, history, customs and ethic.

The Alt-Right I associate with enjoy Putin poking the Globalists in the eye. As usual, any scrutiny of the Zsky narrative leads to a litany of lies and faked video propaganda.

'We' are greatly enjoying the squirming and scurrying as the lights are switched on and the rats and cockroaches turn on each other.

When someone tells you who they are , believe them. Mas has told us again and again who he is.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

He was smart enough to bluff - and continue to bluff - Biden into not intervening by providing jets to Ukraine.

Of course, that's not saying much. Any mention of Trump and Russian collusion gives any Democrat the vapors.

Putin knows that significant numbers of US citizens are working to put the Clinton-Oblamea clique where they belong.

Prison or the grave.....

There will be a reckoning.

 

[Noodle]

Putin knows that significant numbers of US citizens are working to put the Clinton-Oblamea clique where they belong.

Prison or the grave.....

There will be a reckoning.

These posts have crossed the line.

 

[DANC]

Putin knows that significant numbers of US citizens are working to put the Clinton-Oblamea clique where they belong.

Prison or the grave.....

There will be a reckoning.

Oh, there will be a reckoning. And it will come with a bullet in Putin's head or him dead of poisoning.

 

[IUINSB]

Putin knows that significant numbers of US citizens are working to put the Clinton-Oblamea clique where they belong.

Prison or the grave.....

There will be a reckoning.

Break out the tiki torches.
Mas and his oath keepers to the rescue.
Thanks for the warning, Adolph.

Edit: The RINOs, you forgot the RINO. They go first.

 

[DANC]

Break out the tiki torches.
Mas and his oath keepers to the rescue.
Thanks for the warning, Adolph.

Edit: The RINOs, you forgot the RINO. They go first.

I'm hoping he's sobered up after posting that.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Oh, there will be a reckoning. And it will come with a bullet in Putin's head or him dead of poisoning.

That is always a solution, right?

 

[IUINSB]

Putin knows that significant numbers of US citizens are working to put the Clinton-Oblamea clique where they belong.

Prison or the grave.....

There will be a reckoning.

Oh, there will be a reckoning. And it will come with a bullet in Putin's head or him dead of poisoning.

That is always a solution, right?

"Prison or the grave....."

Well, it sure seems to be your solution.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Well, non-sociopaths for starters. Supporting one’s own interests over all and not seeing favorable compromise is pretty sad.

Where did you find 'over all' in the post?

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

"Prison or the grave....."

Well, it sure seems to be your solution.

Seth Rich's parents could advise you about solutions.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Why didn't you throw in that he's a democrat too, with that list of accomplishments?

And a Mouseketeer..

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

I had to see what Mas was responding to and lo and behold it was your slander. You are despicable. You are a despicable POG masquerading as a smart guy. Shame on you. Shame on this forum for allowing you.

You wouldn’t have lasted a week in Ranger School. You’d be the guy whimpering in the patrol base because you were cold and hungry. You would be the guy that gave us all motivation to not be like you. Much like the real conservatives do here.

Apologize for your slander. Immediately.

I am not Ranger qualified.
I served as an infantry trained scout in a regular Army Armored Cavalry Regiment for a year in RVN.

Whether or not a Ranger qualified soldier served in 75, his presence always was of benefit to other troops, as his enhanced abilities helped make them safer.

The entire Snopes article is effluent, designed to soil a sitting US Senator, who is Ranger qualified, and a Combat Veteran, by useless worms who would faint at their first smell of death.

Call yourself Ranger all you want.

You earned it.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

I am not Ranger qualified.
I served as an infantry trained scout in a regular Army Armored Cavalry Regiment for a year in RVN.

Whether or not a Ranger qualified soldier served in 75, his presence always was of benefit to other troops, as his enhanced abilities helped make them safer.

The entire Snopes article is effluent, designed to soil a sitting US Senator, who is Ranger qualified, and a Combat Veteran, by useless worms who would faint at their first smell of death.

Call yourself Ranger all you want.

You earned it.

I think the Snopes article was correcting a mistake they originally made - when they said Cotton can’t call himself that because he wasn’t in the 75th - by way of the West Point instructor explaining that grads of the Ranger course are entitled to call themselves Ranger. And I agree.

I also agree that Cotton saying he served “as a Ranger” is misleading and a problem.

 

[cosmickid]

The term 'Azov' originally described an area around the town of Azov.....for a thousand years. The area of swamp and tidal bars has been a bone of contention for hundreds of years.

Please name a more covert activity than warfare.

You don't know shit about the Alt Right.

The Alt-Right that I associate with are not National Socialists, but they are Nationalists.

The Alt-Right that I associate with support their own race, history, customs and ethic.

The Alt-Right I associate with enjoy Putin poking the Globalists in the eye. As usual, any scrutiny of the Zsky narrative leads to a litany of lies and faked video propaganda.

'We' are greatly enjoying the squirming and scurrying as the lights are switched on and the rats and cockroaches turn on each other.

Ok the original name derives from the Sea of Azov. For some reason I misread the name of Interior Minister Avakov (who formed the brigade) as Azov, so that's my mistake.

But the larger point stands, the battle between pro-Putin separatists and Azov fighters is essentially a battle between two factions of competing paramilitary groups with Neo-Nazi sympathies. Putin's claim of de-Nazifying Ukraine (and Don Bas in particular) is supreme gaslighting.

As to your claims of "faked video propaganda", does this qualify?...This was posted by Denis Pushilin (Putin's puppet in Donetsk) to his Telegram Channel. Imagine that, the head of the Donetsk People's Republic (pro-Putin separatists fighting Azov) has a TELEGRAM channel.

You're familiar with Telegram, aren't you Mas? The preferred social media communication site for American White Supremacists and Neo-Nazi Fascists everywhere...

So here is Pushilin awarding the "St Georges Cross II" to a fighter named as Lt Roman Vorobyov who was cited for leading a force that killed 40 "militants"- which in Donetsk equals pro-Ukrainians (likely Azov)... So according to Putin's narrative, Lt Vorobyov killed 40 "Nazis"...

Except someone forgot to tell Vorobyov that "Nazis" were the enemy. Because the "pro-Putin hero" forgot to change his uniform coat, and "mistakenly" wore the one with the pro-Nazi patches. Not only is he wearing a Valknut (Odin's knot) patch favored by Neo-Nazis everywhere, but he's also sporting the skull & crossbones worn by the Waffen SS, particularly the SS 3rd Panzer Totenkopf.

Pro-Russian Fighter With Nazi Patches Gets Medal for Killing 'Nazis'

A pro-Russian soldier can be seen in a video wearing an emblem used by Nazi Germany's Waffen-SS and a symbol of interlocking triangles from Norse mythology commonly used by neo-Nazis.

www.newsweek.com

 

[cosmickid]

I think the Snopes article was correcting a mistake they originally made - when they said Cotton can’t call himself that because he wasn’t in the 75th - by way of the West Point instructor explaining that grads of the Ranger course are entitled to call themselves Ranger. And I agree.

I also agree that Cotton saying he served “as a Ranger” is misleading and a problem.

My roommate at IU was chief cadet of ROTC and was commissioned after graduating. After basic he went thru both Airborne and Ranger schools, and while he referred to himself as a Ranger he never claimed he "served as a Ranger"...

I don't have any more - just what is common knowledge.

Mas is basically celebrating Patton's anti-Semitism, and would no doubt fully endorse this diary entry, recorded for posterity...

Patton diary entry, September 15, 1945: Evidently the virus started by Morgenthau and Baruch of a Semitic revenge against all Germans is still working. … Harrison and his ilk believe that the Displaced Person is a human being, which he is not, and this applies particularly to the Jews, who are lower than animals.” Patton ...​

 

[Bowlmania]

Putin knows that significant numbers of US citizens are working to put the Clinton-Oblamea clique where they belong.

Prison or the grave.....

There will be a reckoning.

Fvck your "reckoning." And if the country sucks so bad, then get the hell out and take the assbreaths who like your repulsive posts with you.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

My roommate at IU was chief cadet of ROTC and was commissioned after graduating. After basic he went thru both Airborne and Ranger schools, and while he referred to himself as a Ranger he never claimed he "served as a Ranger"...

Mas is basically celebrating Patton's anti-Semitism, and would no doubt fully endorse this diary entry, recorded for posterity...

Patton diary entry, September 15, 1945: Evidently the virus started by Morgenthau and Baruch of a Semitic revenge against all Germans is still working. … Harrison and his ilk believe that the Displaced Person is a human being, which he is not, and this applies particularly to the Jews, who are lower than animals.” Patton ...​

Correct. I would never say I served as a Ranger. Your roommate is correct too.

 

[cosmickid]

Seth Rich's parents could advise you about solutions.

Another bonkers conspiracy theory. Not only did Rich leave the bar much later than he normally would, but he travelled a totally different route than he usually took. The key to ambushing someone is that you identify patterns and prey on their predictability. Seth's movements that night were far more unpredictable than any study of his routine would have uncovered...

Beyond that, he was still alive and conversed with the medics in route to the hospital. Which brings up two points... What hitman shoots and wounds his target with a survivable shot, when a headshot is basically fatal? IIRC, the medics actually thought Seth would survive, and didn't feel his wounds were fatal, until shock set in...

Also in the same vein, if your job is to kill someone why wouldn't you make sure to administer a fatal blow, instead of leaving your victim conscious and able to provide a description? No way he was shot by any type of professional "hit man"...Of course the whole supposed rationale for wanting to kill him is bonkers in the first place, beyond all the glaring mistakes a "professional" supposedly made...

 

[IUINSB]

Seth Rich's parents could advise you about solutions.

Are you referring to the parents who received a settlement from Fox News for the lies Fox spread about their son's murder?

The parents whose spokesperson called the conspiracy theorists "disgusting sociopaths"?

If so, the spokesperson definitely had you nailed.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

My roommate at IU was chief cadet of ROTC and was commissioned after graduating. After basic he went thru both Airborne and Ranger schools, and while he referred to himself as a Ranger he never claimed he "served as a Ranger"...

Mas is basically celebrating Patton's anti-Semitism, and would no doubt fully endorse this diary entry, recorded for posterity...

Patton diary entry, September 15, 1945: Evidently the virus started by Morgenthau and Baruch of a Semitic revenge against all Germans is still working. … Harrison and his ilk believe that the Displaced Person is a human being, which he is not, and this applies particularly to the Jews, who are lower than animals.” Patton ...​

Just keep in mind, genius, that International Jewery declared total war on Germany in 1933, well before the N.S. controlled the dying Weimar Republic.

The damage to Weimar Germany caused by this war contributed to the rise of the N.S.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Are you referring to the parents who received a settlement from Fox News for the lies Fox spread about their son's murder?

The parents whose spokesperson called the conspiracy theorists "disgusting sociopaths"?

If so, the spokesperson definitely had you nailed.

I'm not Fox.

Funny, lots of so called 'conspiracy theories' are now known to be factual.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Another bonkers conspiracy theory. Not only did Rich leave the bar much later than he normally would, but he travelled a totally different route than he usually took. The key to ambushing someone is that you identify patterns and prey on their predictability. Seth's movements that night were far more unpredictable than any study of his routine would have uncovered...

Beyond that, he was still alive and conversed with the medics in route to the hospital. Which brings up two points... What hitman shoots and wounds his target with a survivable shot, when a headshot is basically fatal? IIRC, the medics actually thought Seth would survive, and didn't feel his wounds were fatal, until shock set in...

Also in the same vein, if your job is to kill someone why wouldn't you make sure to administer a fatal blow, instead of leaving your victim conscious and able to provide a description? No way he was shot by any type of professional "hit man"...Of course the whole supposed rationale for wanting to kill him is bonkers in the first place, beyond all the glaring mistakes a "professional" supposedly made...

So, your (old) mantra was that it was a robbery then? But the supposed robber didn't take his cell phone, wallet and keys..

Is Julian Assange wrong?

 

[DANC]

That is always a solution, right?

It is when he commits mass murder.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Fvck your "reckoning." And if the country sucks so bad, then get the hell out and take the assbreaths who like your repulsive posts with you.

Easy...don't read them Snowflake.