I like winning games more than counting stars
Cig Agrees to New Contract
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Well be sure when you count 1 through 10 successful years that you start with this year as #1. Very big difference in coaches working with all talent. Which is why this season is #1.
We have a one year sample of his coaching with the "one 4 star athlete and the rest 3 and 2 stars" and IU hasn't lost yet.
Let's say your right and 10-0 isn't sustainable with those "middles of the road" players, I would be ecstatic with next year being 7-3 or 8-2 at this point of the season. IU isn't Alabama................ yet!
Also, wasn't CCC heavily involved with recruiting at Alabama? IIRC, Saban gave him credit with helping him early on at Alabama.
$555,000 (JMU) to $8,000,000.
Indiana locks up football coach Curt Cignetti through 2032 with new deal
Indiana football has moved quickly to lock up coach Curt Cignetti to a new deal amidst the program's historic 10-0 start, details here:sports.yahoo.com
Ain’t too shabby.
Yes, Cig was recruiting coordinator when they got the Julio Jones class that vaulted Alabama into the Natty a couple years later. He knows how to get the kids.
Where Cig is different is his focus on productivity. He gets guys that produce, not just any 2* or 3*.
With the transfer portal, he can execute this approach with precision. He can scour the JMU's of the world or MAC kids entering the portal looking for a larger platform.
The WR and RB group on this year's team showcases his strategy and how effective it can be....
Is it 9 million, or 8 million? Some articles say 8, "including a 1 million retention bonus", the others say 8, "plus a 1 million retention bonus" each year. Which would be 9 .
I assume some writers just don't know the english language. But I still dont know. How can an "average annual compensation be 8", but then have an extra million as well?
iuhoosiers.com says "eight-year contract with an average annual compensation of $8 million, as well as an additional annual $1 million retention bonus."
I assume some writers just don't know the english language. But I still dont know. How can an "average annual compensation be 8", but then have an extra million as well?
iuhoosiers.com says "eight-year contract with an average annual compensation of $8 million, as well as an additional annual $1 million retention bonus."
It's probably 8 per year, but there's a 1 mil bonus awarded if he's still the coach on some particular calendar day, likely well after the coaching carousel is usually done spinning (like, March or something).
I'm guessing here, but that kind of bonus seems designed to reward him for sticking around.
If so it's nine mil per year average then. Since it's always included.
It's not a 'make the CFP' get a bonus, 'win 9 games' get a bonus.
Maybe the only difference is they're saying the poaching buyout is the 8 mil average times remaining years. Not 9 time remaining. Since it's a 'bonus'.
It's not a 'make the CFP' get a bonus, 'win 9 games' get a bonus.
Maybe the only difference is they're saying the poaching buyout is the 8 mil average times remaining years. Not 9 time remaining. Since it's a 'bonus'.
Hard to say without seeing the contract. Some buyout terms may be linked to the remaining AAV, or not. Might just want to encourage loyalty with the prospect of a mid-six figure check (after taxes) coming down the pike.
This is a fair criticism, but a faulty analog. IU paid a market price for a head coach and staff with a proven record of success, and subsequently enjoyed the benefit of their investment.
I read CCC made $550k at JMU..and has realized $4M in a performance/incentive laden agreement. The new deal is worth $72Million...
The previous Coach had no Head Coaching experience, and nowhere near the amount of resources this staff has. Also no NIL or portal(auction) to build a team.
Apples and rutabagas.
He was not going to Florida. Florida had already announced that Napier was staying and with the issues with Golden probably not a good time to fire your football coach. There were 90 thousand at the Swamp to watch the Gators beat LSU.
How many IU fans, given a guarantee that Coach Cig would win at least 10 games this season, would have suggested Dolson sign him to an 8 million dollar contract up front? There is no way in hell anyone (other than Cig himself) truly thought 10-0 possible in Cig's first season; likely 11-0 and possibly an undefeated regular season. They paid the man and rightfully so. Now, Dolson should send a memo to the other 17 teams in the B1G telling them to get on their football calendars and erase all the "W's" they marked in advance next to IU's name: P.S. welcome to the CIGTEN !!!
I've read most of the string here. So not a bunch of insight here...
1. Cignetti wins. We have not seen his best IU Football team yet...and this is a great IU football team.
2. Dolson did a great job with this hire. I agree with the posters that he was in some way, shape or form "held back" in the basketball hiring process. I don't know if the Buckner stories are true or just internet drivel. I have faith in Dolson. Oddly if he wasn't just a born and bred type of Hoosier...one could argue that somewhere, there's a program that would find Scott as an attractive candidate for their open AD position. Heidi would never let him take another position
Inasmuch as Scott bleeds Cream and Crimson...Ms. Dolson is ... well ... she's OG Hoosier.
3. I remember articles written about Ms. Whitten when she was hired. That she was a football fan/aficionado. I believe her support and desire to have a successful program cannot be understated.
4. There'll be a lot of pressure when it's time to hire a new basketball coach (and I'm not speculating on the timeline here), however, Dolson's hiring trajectory (as it were), the NIL engagement program-wide, history and intangibles...tend to make me confident that we'll have a more inspiring hire.
1. Cignetti wins. We have not seen his best IU Football team yet...and this is a great IU football team.
2. Dolson did a great job with this hire. I agree with the posters that he was in some way, shape or form "held back" in the basketball hiring process. I don't know if the Buckner stories are true or just internet drivel. I have faith in Dolson. Oddly if he wasn't just a born and bred type of Hoosier...one could argue that somewhere, there's a program that would find Scott as an attractive candidate for their open AD position. Heidi would never let him take another position
Inasmuch as Scott bleeds Cream and Crimson...Ms. Dolson is ... well ... she's OG Hoosier.3. I remember articles written about Ms. Whitten when she was hired. That she was a football fan/aficionado. I believe her support and desire to have a successful program cannot be understated.
4. There'll be a lot of pressure when it's time to hire a new basketball coach (and I'm not speculating on the timeline here), however, Dolson's hiring trajectory (as it were), the NIL engagement program-wide, history and intangibles...tend to make me confident that we'll have a more inspiring hire.
Contract details are out. Big raise for the assistants. Buyout is large too. We’re all in.
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Yoinks. Probably a 100% guarantee. I wonder what Cig has to pay if he walks...hopefully also a lot.
Unfortunately, no. Only $13 million the first year, and it goes down from there.
Darn. I don’t know what’s market, but that’s lower than I hoped. For a quick data points I see Bama paid UW $12M for Kalen and Lanning’s is currently $20M. Oh well.
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A few more details in this article:
Curt Cignetti not only one getting a raise. Assistant salary pool now among highest in FBS.
Curt Cignetti not only one getting a raise. Assistant salary pool now among highest in FBS.
Curt Cignetti not only one getting a raise. Assistant salary pool now among highest in FBS.
IU football's $11 million assistant coaches salary pool would rank among highest in FBS. For example, Ohio State assistants make $11.43 million.
www.indystar.com
Yeah, slight bummer but Cig had all the leverage, so fingers crossed.
At his age I'd think the risk of him getting poached is only in the next couple years.
That assistant salary pool will put us among the most in the nation, I would think.
Certainly most amongst the Big 10.
Yeah, I doubt there's any risk. Unless family reasons to live elsewhere.
Would he leave the job that made him quite wealthy, and the only stress is what he puts on himself? And has decent resources to compete? Coaching is stressful at that level, of course he wants to come through. But we've got to be about the least demanding power conference job out there. Until we get thoroughly spoiled and bratty of course. Even then we should be below most fanbases and NIL donors.
An expensive, but great, deal for us too!
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With this contract, assistant money, rev share funded, NIL continuing to climb, facilities work coming soon, and playing in one of the top-2 conferences… the bar is getting high for another program to offer materially more.
Good stuff. Now we got to hope this staff keeps improving. We’ll see, they're our best chance.
Good stuff. Now we got to hope this staff keeps improving. We’ll see, they're our best chance.
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We have to get the big uglies in the trenches to compete with the speed and size of the Michigans, Ohio State, and Oregons. Their talent is biggest and faster and will grind us down. Have to get more top recruits down the road. This is no disrespect to Cig, it was just apparent in the 2nd half of Michigan and all of Ohio State.
Yeah, that will increase your margin for error, generally speaking.
Also, quality depth is needed. I’m sure he’s well aware of it, too.
I agree that these guys are the best chance Indiana University has ever had or probably ever will have of becoming a top football program. I am very happy to see IU put everything they can into it. It is a miracle it has gotten this far!
