CDC Abortion Numbers

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Facts - like the text of SCOTUS opinions and Constitutions and statutes - tend to get overlooked around here, and its odd that the numbers vary, but here is the CDC info about abortions, assuming anyone finds them relevant. One quirky question - is 630,000+ “unwanted” or “unhealthy” pregnancies an issue worthy of attention? If Covid had killed 600,000 in a year, wouldn't it still have been declared a crisis and prompted action? Anyway - from CDC:

“In 2019, 629,898 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. Among 48 reporting areas with data each year during 2010–2019, in 2019, a total of 625,346 abortions were reported, the abortion rate was 11.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, and the abortion ratio was 195 abortions per 1,000 live births.

From 2010 to 2019, the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 18%, 21%, and 13%, respectively. However, compared with 2018, in 2019, the total number increased 2%, the rate of reported abortions increased by 0.9%, and the abortion ratio increased by 3%.

Similar to previous years, in 2019, women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions (56.9%). The majority of abortions in 2019 took place early in gestation: 92.7% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (6.2%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (<1.0%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.

Early medical abortion is defined as the administration of medications(s) to induce an abortion at ≤9 completed weeks’ gestation, consistent with the current Food and Drug Administration labeling for mifepristone (implemented in 2016). In 2019, 42.3% of all abortions were early medical abortions. Use of early medical abortion increased 10% from 2018 to 2019 and 123% from 2010 to 2019.”

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[JamieDimonsBalls]

Facts - like the text of SCOTUS opinions and Constitutions and statutes - tend to get overlooked around here, and its odd that the numbers vary, but here is the CDC info about abortions, assuming anyone finds them relevant. One quirky question - is 630,000+ “unwanted” or “unhealthy” pregnancies an issue worthy of attention? If Covid had killed 600,000 in a year, wouldn't it still have been declared a crisis and prompted action? Anyway - from CDC:

“In 2019, 629,898 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. Among 48 reporting areas with data each year during 2010–2019, in 2019, a total of 625,346 abortions were reported, the abortion rate was 11.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, and the abortion ratio was 195 abortions per 1,000 live births.

From 2010 to 2019, the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 18%, 21%, and 13%, respectively. However, compared with 2018, in 2019, the total number increased 2%, the rate of reported abortions increased by 0.9%, and the abortion ratio increased by 3%.

Similar to previous years, in 2019, women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions (56.9%). The majority of abortions in 2019 took place early in gestation: 92.7% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (6.2%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (<1.0%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.

Early medical abortion is defined as the administration of medications(s) to induce an abortion at ≤9 completed weeks’ gestation, consistent with the current Food and Drug Administration labeling for mifepristone (implemented in 2016). In 2019, 42.3% of all abortions were early medical abortions. Use of early medical abortion increased 10% from 2018 to 2019 and 123% from 2010 to 2019.”

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Love is coming to us all.

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then I presume you would be comfortable paying more in taxes to support that welfare need?

i certainly am not

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

then I presume you would be comfortable paying more in taxes to support that welfare need?

i certainly am not

Not sure all those pregnancies were women on welfare, but you are right that addressing “mistake” pregnancies that turn into abortions is partially a tax issue. These numbers didn't really show how much.

And if I read that one stat correctly, 19% of pregnancy were terminated early one year? Thats a ridiculous number. How can almost 1 in 5 pregnancies be a mistake?

If I could cut what I view as needless spending elsewhere in state and federal budgets, I might not care much about “pregnancy prevention” budgets. I don’t complain about interstate roads i never drive on, so … trade offs and balances.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

For comparison as a "public health issue" - the CDC's final, official tally of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. for 2020 was 350,831.

Which got more attention as a public health issue?

Why are so many accidental or unhealthy pregnancies occurring?

Alcohol? Bad latex?

Surely BOTH sides of the debate (excluding hard core practicing Catholics) can agree that PREVENTING abortions by preventing unwanted or mistaken or health-risk pregnancies - is better than abortion?

In my day, we had "sex education" as part of 7th Grade PE. Ignorance was not an excuse.

 

[IndianaEd70]

The simple fact is that it's much more inexpensive for the taxpayer to pay for an abortion than 18 years of child welfare and medical expenses. On top of that a majorty of these people born in poverty are not significant contributors to society. If you don't believe that just spend some time sitting in Walmart and observing.

 

[outside shooter]

Why are so many accidental or unhealthy pregnancies occurring?

As a point of comparison, 10-20 percent of known pregnancies end in a miscarriage. But the actual number is likely higher, because many miscarriages occur very early in pregnancy — before you might even know about a pregnancy.

The random mutation that drives evolution makes reproduction a dicey business. You take a chance, get unlucky, and you have a miscarriage. But sometimes the body's detection system fails and a fetus that could have / should have miscarried instead must be aborted.

20% seems high. But 5-10% of preganacies resulting in medically necessary abortions doesn't seem so bizarre.

 

[hoot1]

As a point of comparison, 10-20 percent of known pregnancies end in a miscarriage. But the actual number is likely higher, because many miscarriages occur very early in pregnancy — before you might even know about a pregnancy.

The random mutation that drives evolution makes reproduction a dicey business. You take a chance, get unlucky, and you have a miscarriage. But sometimes the body's detection system fails and a fetus that could have / should have miscarried instead must be aborted.

20% seems high. But 5-10% of preganacies resulting in medically necessary abortions doesn't seem so bizarre.

Shooter, you bring up an important fact regarding the "unborn" and how the subject can be misunderstood by the general public on a subject which can become highly emotional as it involves strongly held moral values.

For example, according to this informed source in part states the following,

The nationwide online survey found that 55 percent of people in the United States believe that miscarriage happens in 5 percent or less of all pregnancies. But in reality, miscarriages end 15 to 20 percent of reported pregnancies, according to the researchers.

The 15 to 20 percent equates to from 750,000 to 1,00,000 of the unborn pregnancies.

 

[zeke4ahs]

For comparison as a "public health issue" - the CDC's final, official tally of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. for 2020 was 350,831.

Which got more attention as a public health issue?

Why are so many accidental or unhealthy pregnancies occurring?

Alcohol? Bad latex?

Surely BOTH sides of the debate (excluding hard core practicing Catholics) can agree that PREVENTING abortions by preventing unwanted or mistaken or health-risk pregnancies - is better than abortion?

In my day, we had "sex education" as part of 7th Grade PE. Ignorance was not an excuse.

Republicans don’t want sex ed in the schools any more. Remember?

 

[zeke4ahs]

As a point of comparison, 10-20 percent of known pregnancies end in a miscarriage. But the actual number is likely higher, because many miscarriages occur very early in pregnancy — before you might even know about a pregnancy.

The random mutation that drives evolution makes reproduction a dicey business. You take a chance, get unlucky, and you have a miscarriage. But sometimes the body's detection system fails and a fetus that could have / should have miscarried instead must be aborted.

20% seems high. But 5-10% of preganacies resulting in medically necessary abortions doesn't seem so bizarre.

And now I’ve been reading about cases, particularly in Texas, where both women and doctors are quizzed after a miscarriage, to make certain it wasn’t actually an abortion. So they have to prove their innocence during an emotional and vulnerable time perio.

 

[76-1]

Republicans don’t want sex ed in the schools any more. Remember?

No..., they just don't want it to start prior to 3rd grade... Remember?

 

[T.M.P.]

Republicans don’t want sex.

fify

 

[zeke4ahs]

No..., they just don't want it to start prior to 3rd grade... Remember?

Hmmmm https://www.3newsnow.com/news/polit...ex-ed-school-choice-at-sunday-rally?_amp=true

 

[zeke4ahs]

fify

Well they have to have sex occasionally or how do they get their “domestic supply of infants? “

 

[T.M.P.]

Well they have to have sex occasionally or how do they get their “domestic supply of infants? “

They are forced to .... by their wives. It's why they hate women.

 

[bub-rub]

How can almost 1 in 5 pregnancies be a mistake?

What was the name of your Dungeons & Dragons club in college?

 

[hoot1]

And now I’ve been reading about cases, particularly in Texas, where both women and doctors are quizzed after a miscarriage, to make certain it wasn’t actually an abortion. So they have to prove their innocence during an emotional and vulnerable time perio.

This bring up the problem of how women and doctors can be facing criminal charges when a pregnancy ends depending on how laws are written concerning abortion.

I can see doctors and women being under suspicion if they simply answered they didn't know what caused the miscarriage.

Causes of miscarriage according to this source are many. Including the following,

Infection.

Exposure to environmental and workplace hazards such as high levels of radiation or toxic agents.

Hormonal irregularities.

Improper implantation of fertilized egg in the uterine lining.

Maternal age.

Uterine abnormalities.

Incompetent cervix.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

What was the name of your Dungeons & Dragons club in college?

My D&D was of a different sort - they called it “drunk and disorderly.”

 

[76-1]

Hmmmm https://www.3newsnow.com/news/polit...ex-ed-school-choice-at-sunday-rally?_amp=true

Try harder...

One candidate for Governor of Nebraska (who most people in the country have never heard of) hardly can be considered representative of every Republican...

Find an nationally known elected official of some stature and get back to me... Wannabe Dog Catchers don't count...

 

[Crayfish57]

They are forced to .... by their wives. It's why they hate women.

DUMB , like every post you make

 

[Crayfish57]

And now I’ve been reading about cases, particularly in Texas, where both women and doctors are quizzed after a miscarriage, to make certain it wasn’t actually an abortion. So they have to prove their innocence during an emotional and vulnerable time perio.

You missed part of your period.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Try harder...

One candidate for Governor of Nebraska (who most people in the country have never heard of) hardly can be considered representative of every Republican...

Find an nationally known elected official of some stature and get back to me... Wannabe Dog Catchers don't count...

You said they didn’t want that. Some do.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Try harder...

One candidate for Governor of Nebraska (who most people in the country have never heard of) hardly can be considered representative of every Republican...

Find an nationally known elected official of some stature and get back to me... Wannabe Dog Catchers don't count...

https://www.aclu.org/other/campaigns-undermine-sexuality-education-public-schools. Or a list of multiple organizations that want it out of schools?

 

[76-1]

https://www.aclu.org/other/campaigns-undermine-sexuality-education-public-schools. Or a list of multiple organizations that want it out of schools?

Once again..., get back to me with some organization that actually represents the Republican Party..., not a list of obscure organizations that literally no one has ever heard of... 🙄

You framed it, and I quote: "Republicans"...

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

Surely BOTH sides of the debate (excluding hard core practicing Catholics) can agree that PREVENTING abortions by preventing unwanted or mistaken or health-risk pregnancies - is better than abortion?

It's a valid point that needs to be emphasized more, but I'd suggest that historically, conservatives have been far more unwilling to support or provide contraception to poor areas (via subsidization, welfare mechanisms). If we stop to think about it, supplying contraception is far more cost effective and healthier than abortion, but more importantly, it would actually help reduce the amount of kids that the lowest quartile of the population has (i.e., those not wanting to or able to have an abortion).

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

fify

Untrue. I’m a big fan of it.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Try harder...

One candidate for Governor of Nebraska (who most people in the country have never heard of) hardly can be considered representative of every Republican...

Find an nationally known elected official of some stature and get back to me... Wannabe Dog Catchers don't count...

hey, if GOPers can blame BLM on dems (which was not instigated by any dem politician), then some random GOP politician definitely counts.

 

[mcmurtry66]

hey, if GOPers can blame BLM on dems (which was not instigated by any dem politician), then some random GOP politician definitely counts.

Cori Bush says hi

 

[SqueakyClean]

It's a valid point that needs to be emphasized more, but I'd suggest that historically, conservatives have been far more unwilling to support or provide contraception to poor areas (via subsidization, welfare mechanisms). If we stop to think about it, supplying contraception is far more cost effective and healthier than abortion, but more importantly, it would actually help reduce the amount of kids that the lowest quartile of the population has (i.e., those not wanting to or able to have an abortion).

Bear in mind though that there's even portions of the far right that believe that contraception is not allowed either. I think that particular brand of conservative has been slowly decreasing in size over the years, but it still does exist.

 

[hoot1]

As a point of comparison, 10-20 percent of known pregnancies end in a miscarriage. But the actual number is likely higher, because many miscarriages occur very early in pregnancy — before you might even know about a pregnancy.

The random mutation that drives evolution makes reproduction a dicey business. You take a chance, get unlucky, and you have a miscarriage. But sometimes the body's detection system fails and a fetus that could have / should have miscarried instead must be aborted.

20% seems high. But 5-10% of preganacies resulting in medically necessary abortions doesn't seem so bizarre.

Bear in mind though that there's even portions of the far right that believe that contraception is not allowed either. I think that particular brand of conservative has been slowly decreasing in size over the years, but it still does exist.

Those who are super pro life consider sperm and eggs to be the basic ingredients of life. They see most forms of contraception including pulling out to be a sinful act.

IMO, this isn't about being far right politically, but is a moral value taught by some religions such as Catholicism.

Sex to them is for reproduction, not sinful pleasure.

 

[outside shooter]

Those who are super pro life consider sperm and eggs to be the basic ingredients of life. They see most forms of contraception including pulling out to be a sinful act.

IMO, this isn't about being far right politically, but is a moral value taught by some religions such as Catholicism.

Sex to them is for reproduction, not sinful pleasure.

Rank-and-file Catholics, at least in the USA, generally do not buy into the crap that the church "leaders" throw out there. They laugh at the out of touch old white guys. American Catholics generally support contraception. I doubt that there is even much difference in rates of pro-choice Catholics vs. pro-choice Protestants.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

The bullshit each side willingly believes about the other - and the inappropriately-broad brush used to paint that bullshit across all “they” - is excruciating.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

The bullshit each side willingly believes about the other - and the inappropriately-broad brush used to paint that bullshit across all “they” - is excruciating.

That's all I've been saying.
Maybe they'll listen to you.