CBS Ranks Best in College Sports
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Every team ahead of IU has a better football program.
Way to go, Fred. Year ten and this is the crap you have produced.
Is this a surprise? This is based on only last year's results. Not the "program," but one year. Although it's pretty sad that we would have likely been lower if not for the success of the women's basketball team.
IU was voted a few years ago as the worst Power 5 D1 football program since the BCS era began.
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IU has a better Basketball program than Penn State and Nebraska.
Fred Glass still being employed shows how much IU actually cares about Athletics.
Notice that a Purdue fan couldn’t wait to come over here and tell us this. If we were top 10, would this be posted? Lol.
Based on what? Your hopes and dreams? Nebraska won 22 games the year before last and 13 Big ten games, IU hasn't accomplished that in 3 seasons. (They also have owned us on the court) Penn State did just win 26 games and the NIT, IU couldn't get out of the second game.
IU has missed the tournament for 3 straight years, you could argue that the programs are maybe comparable but that's all you can argue. Right now IU is one of the worst programs in the BIG10. We can't even make the tournament.
Calling it a full blown gasoline induced dumpster fire is probably an understatement at this point. Anyone who doesn’t see that is living in fantasy land.
The Negative Nancies forget that IU's basketball program is considered the third most valuable in sports. Correction - they don't care because they aren't IU basketball fans.
IU is valuable because of the history, fan support, and the love for basketball in the state. It has nothing to do with the (lack of) success on the court because IU fans tend to show up regardless.
Just because you have low expectations doesn't mean the rest of us have to, it also doesn't make me a fan of another team to have a differing opinion. I call it like I see it and IU/Rutgers/Illinois are the only programs in the BIG10 to have won less than 20 games each of the last 3 years.
If it changes (and I hope it does) I'll change my tune, but for now we suck.
Posted on the Purdue site as well for general info. Not really proud of the Purdue rating so I got no pleasure in posting it here. If the Purdue rating was higher I probably would not to avoid snarky comments like.....
Get out of here with the “low expectations” bullshit. I don’t have low expectations for IU basketball at all. I have no patience for the never ending pessimism and sniping from the Negative Nancies here and half of those people are obviously not IU fans.
I understand someone being sick and tired of all the pessimistic posts. It makes it even more difficult to take because frankly they have every reason to be pessimistic, especially if they are die hard IU fans with high expectations. Back in the late 90s this forum (peegs/IIBF?) was full of negativity and those years now look like glory years compared to now.
Sure, there are probably a handful of high volume posters that aren’t even IU fans. Some are negative nancies, but there are also people in the everything is great camp that aren’t IU fans either.
One of my favorite posters, “Pater”, recently said something to the effect of: He finds himself agreeing with the negative nancies and the sunshine pumpers at the same time, and that he suspects many people fall somewhere in the middle. I think I’m in that camp. The negativity does seem like the beating of a dead horse at times, and it can get grating. But here’s the thing: trying to silence it will make it worse. Calling those posters names will not help. Swearing at them and other clear violations of forum rules will not silence them. It only makes those posters appear to be unhinged teenagers that can’t handle criticism of a program that does have major problems.
Winning is the only thing that can silence them.
And when I mean winning, I mean sustained, consistent excellence over several years.
I've lost my patience with the storm cloud farting anti-IU trolls. I expect honest criticism and evaluation which isn't what those trolls do. They post nothing of value.
I disagree with you, winning won't silence the "critics." Exhibit one is Fpeaugh. He wanted Crean fired after three years if what I've read on here is true? I've also read posts by him saying things like, "Crean is better then Miller, and I wish Crean was still here because he is so much better than Miller," yada, yada, yada, and that he wants Crean back when compared to the job Miller is doing. Fpeaugh is a troll and will be on here bitching until the end of the world because that's what he does. There are many people who post here that are just like Fpeaugh. Aloha Hoosier is totally right in the things he says about the posters have nothing better to do than to bitch on this board every day.
Were all of those people bitching about Crean when we had 3 sweet sixteens in a row, a couple of big ten titles and an elite eight? You remember, from 2014-2017? DWS
How can one argue that winning won’t silence the critics when we haven’t seen sustained, CONSISTENT, excellence over any recent number of years? We have fans that named the “wat” shot in a meaningless game. Would fans of any elite program ever do that?
Listen, if we were Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, or MSU and our last 18 years mirrored IUs last 18, what would the fans be saying? Isn’t it entirely reasonable to be a negative Nancy?
I used to live and die IUBB. I think IU will be much improved this year, be a top 25 team, easily make the tourney, and be in the top 5 of a weaker league. But, I could say the same thing about the Golden Gophers in any given year. My standards for IU basketball, and my expectations have been lowered quite a bit. The passion is lower. I will still try to watch a bunch of games, hope they win and enjoy being a fan.
As for those negative Nancies perhaps some are anti IU trolls. Perhaps some are IU fans that expect us to be elite, and the fires of passion burn brightly in their souls.
Either way, if you want people to stop complaining, then don’t give them things to complain about.
Even with 20/20 hindsight you wouldn’t have fired Crean after year 3 and hired Stevens???? What is wrong with you? I was right then and was attacked far worse than I am now. And I’m confident I’ll be right on Archie too.
Look, we’ve made the NCAA Tournament 4 times in 11 years. FOUR. F-O-U-R!
Yet you think the realistic, “negative” posters are the problem? That we’re the ones being unreasonable? You must be too young to remember anything before Crean.
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Here is a what-if: Had Coach Tom Crean’s 2012-2013 team won the national championship in that run where Syracuse beat us with zone (us playing injured Jordan Hulls), would he still be coaching here, warts and all? Does winning a NC immunize a coach at IU?
IU never had a chance in that game though. There was no chance in hell Crean was going to break down the Syracuse zone.
For once we agree. The "Hulls was injured" excuse is just that. A healthy Hulls wouldn't have made a difference in the way Crean chose to attack that defense.
The other most idiotic game plan he ever came up with was dribble driving into the lane against A.J. Hammons, the best shot blocker in the league and perhaps in the country. Crean tried that in both games that year.
Yes he would be and he would’ve deserved to be. That would mean after Syracuse he would’ve still won 3 more games. If you can prove you can win it you deserve to stay. Not to mention the momentum he would’ve gotten.
Actually, its dropped to 5 now. A passionate strong fan base has been abused far too long. They took it for granted. There won’t be another 5+ years of such tolerance without accelerated fallout
We've discussed this before. If you were the AD @ IU you would fire both the BB & FB coaches as often as you change your shoes. If I was the IU AD, I wouldn't run coaches off like you say you would. And, Brad Stevens was never coming to IU, so your claim about hiring Steven after Crean's 3rd year is patently false. And, firing Crean in 2011 and bringing in a new BB coach, absolutely would've meant IU would not have won the BIG 10 regular season title in 2012-2013, because we would've been two years into another new BB coach. But, that fact is totally lost on you.
Maybe you fell out of your wheel chair after Crean's 3rd season and you bumped your head, and you can't remember things as well as you think you do?
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No name Brad Stevens at Butler making less than $1 million per year was going to turn down the IU job at $3-4 million? Ummmm ok? That’s all I need to know about you.
Other than the Butler and Celtics job, what other college jobs did Stevens accept? That's all I need to know about you. He was such a hot commodity and was looking to make more money, yet no other college was able to lure him away from Butler, but he would've accepted the IU job? Really? It's that simple? Only in your mind it is.
Rather short and limited data set. No wonder Little Brother grads run over here with it, rare that they would be that highly ranked.
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