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Pits were designed and bred from the jump to be agressive and to kill. They are four-legged sharks. Hard stop

There are generally sweet pits out there (until they aren't) and I don't trust the pets of friends and would never ever ever leave my child in the same room or yard with any agressive breed. Pit, Rot, Doby, chow, etc regardless of how sweet they may have been.
 
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Golden doodles are the perfect dog. Intelligence of a poodle, personality of a golden retriever.
Most doodles I have encountered are like 80% poodle and some of them do shed. Not attractive dogs and more high strung than a golden.
 
My family dog growing up was a pitbull that my dad rescued. She was the sweetest thing and was around long enough that my 21 year old got to play with her when she was young. Such a loving soul that dog was.

Since her, I've had two more until we got our frenchie. Each and every one has always been gentle and loving.

As long as people raise them the correct way, they are the most loving dogs around.

Stats suggest there is a big problem with them. It's literal child endangerment.
 
I had read that Pits did well on a temperament test. That being said, I would not let my dog or child be around one alone. My sister had a rescue just a small part pit. Their other dog was a lab. One day out of the blue, the part pit attacked the other over food. They had lived together for 5 years. Lab probably would have been killed if he hadn’t been fat. Pit attached and refused to let go, even when kicked.
 
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Nope. Some of the very sweetest dogs I know are pitties. That being said, some people shouldn’t be allowed to have them. They train them to attack.
I had read that Pits did well on a temperament test. That being said, I would not let my dog or child be around one alone. My sister had a rescue just a small part pit. Their other dog was a lab. One day out of the blue, the part pit attacked the other over food. They had lived together for 5 years. Lab probably would have been killed if he hadn’t been fat. Pit attached and refused to let go, even when kicked.
???

Do you really think you're going to stop a pit bull attacking your dog or child, without also being seriously injured in the process?

Solution = require the immediate spaying and neutering of all pit bulls and make breeding a pit bull a felony. Along with that, ban the ownership of pit bulls, with that portion of the law going into effect in 12 years.

There are plenty of other dog breeds that can be "very sweet." No one should have the right to own an animal that is an accidentally left open gate away from killing or maiming a child or other pet.
 
???

Do you really think you're going to stop a pit bull attacking your dog or child, without also being seriously injured in the process?

Solution = require the immediate spaying and neutering of all pit bulls and make breeding a pit bull a felony. Along with that, ban the ownership of pit bulls, with that portion of the law going into effect in 12 years.

There are plenty of other dog breeds that can be "very sweet." No one should have the right to own an animal that is an accidentally left open gate away from killing or maiming a child or other pet.
Good solution
 
???

Do you really think you're going to stop a pit bull attacking your dog or child, without also being seriously injured in the process?

Solution = require the immediate spaying and neutering of all pit bulls and make breeding a pit bull a felony. Along with that, ban the ownership of pit bulls, with that portion of the law going into effect in 12 years.

There are plenty of other dog breeds that can be "very sweet." No one should have the right to own an animal that is an accidentally left open gate away from killing or maiming a child or other pet.
Next you'll want to outlaw owning a tiger.

Fascist.
 
I had read that Pits did well on a temperament test. That being said, I would not let my dog or child be around one alone. My sister had a rescue just a small part pit. Their other dog was a lab. One day out of the blue, the part pit attacked the other over food. They had lived together for 5 years. Lab probably would have been killed if he hadn’t been fat. Pit attached and refused to let go, even when kicked.

Thanks for showing us your trashy side
 
???

Do you really think you're going to stop a pit bull attacking your dog or child, without also being seriously injured in the process?

Solution = require the immediate spaying and neutering of all pit bulls and make breeding a pit bull a felony. Along with that, ban the ownership of pit bulls, with that portion of the law going into effect in 12 years.

There are plenty of other dog breeds that can be "very sweet." No one should have the right to own an animal that is an accidentally left open gate away from killing or maiming a child or other pet.
How far down the line would this go? Only 100% pure pitbulls, or any dog with any % of pit in them?

Our current dog is a mutt. She has some "American Staffordshire Terrier" in her, no clue how much. I've previously owned pure collies growing up in Indiana and then later a german/lab mix, and she is the sweetest dog I've ever known (literally must always be laying on on or next to a human at all times) and also the stupidest (literally can't figure out to walk through a door that is partially open, whines until you open it completely).

If you tried to euthanize my dog, I would shoot you in the face.
 
???

Do you really think you're going to stop a pit bull attacking your dog or child, without also being seriously injured in the process?

Solution = require the immediate spaying and neutering of all pit bulls and make breeding a pit bull a felony. Along with that, ban the ownership of pit bulls, with that portion of the law going into effect in 12 years.

There are plenty of other dog breeds that can be "very sweet." No one should have the right to own an animal that is an accidentally left open gate away from killing or maiming a child or other pet.
I may agree. I just know two pit bull owners whose dogs are the sweetest. Phasing them out would probably be the best solution.
 
If you're going to get a Terrier...
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How far down the line would this go? Only 100% pure pitbulls, or any dog with any % of pit in them?

Our current dog is a mutt. She has some "American Staffordshire Terrier" in her, no clue how much. I've previously owned pure collies growing up in Indiana and then later a german/lab mix, and she is the sweetest dog I've ever known (literally must always be laying on on or next to a human at all times) and also the stupidest (literally can't figure out to walk through a door that is partially open, whines until you open it completely).

If you tried to euthanize my dog, I would shoot you in the face.
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Golden Doodles. Ugh. Don't get me started. Who ever decides to pollute the genes of the one true breed should be round up and put into camps.
I don’t understand this attitude. People LOVE golden doodles. And I’m not sure which breed you consider the “one true breed” but that breed still exists.
 
I had read that Pits did well on a temperament test. That being said, I would not let my dog or child be around one alone. My sister had a rescue just a small part pit. Their other dog was a lab. One day out of the blue, the part pit attacked the other over food. They had lived together for 5 years. Lab probably would have been killed if he hadn’t been fat. Pit attached and refused to let go, even when kicked.

We had a pug, a PUG, that we had to get rid of because he attacked my middle child when she was young (she was six) because he thought she was trying to get in his food when all she was doing was getting a toy that was a couple feet away from his food/water bowl. We had to quarantine the dog and had animal control out to the house to check him out and then after all that rehomed him to a older, single lady that knew the story that had pugs all her life.

He wasn't eating the food at the time so it was just out of the blue. Little guy caused six stitches. He was 2 and had never had any outward aggression toward anyone.

I only tell this story becaue you never know when a dog will attack.
 
How far down the line would this go? Only 100% pure pitbulls, or any dog with any % of pit in them?

Our current dog is a mutt. She has some "American Staffordshire Terrier" in her, no clue how much. I've previously owned pure collies growing up in Indiana and then later a german/lab mix, and she is the sweetest dog I've ever known (literally must always be laying on on or next to a human at all times) and also the stupidest (literally can't figure out to walk through a door that is partially open, whines until you open it completely).

If you tried to euthanize my dog, I would shoot you in the face.
Show me where I said anything about euthanizing dogs. Tough guy.
 
Show me where I said anything about euthanizing dogs. Tough guy.
It was a failed joke. I was trying to exaggerate how irrationally people love their pets (me included).
 
Shoot them all. Lots of other breeds of dogs out there to carry on the species of Dogs If there is one species that becomes extict and its pitbulls the world will be better for it I Hate them and think most of the owners do it to try and show the world they arent that bad. Just euthenise and get rid of them. If you like dogs find a different breed.
Thank you for your detailed analysis.
 
We had a pug, a PUG, that we had to get rid of because he attacked my middle child when she was young (she was six) because he thought she was trying to get in his food when all she was doing was getting a toy that was a couple feet away from his food/water bowl. We had to quarantine the dog and had animal control out to the house to check him out and then after all that rehomed him to a older, single lady that knew the story that had pugs all her life.

He wasn't eating the food at the time so it was just out of the blue. Little guy caused six stitches. He was 2 and had never had any outward aggression toward anyone.

I only tell this story becaue you never know when a dog will attack.
Oh my goodness, a pug??? My dog before my current was a pug. That’s crazy.
 
We had a pug, a PUG, that we had to get rid of because he attacked my middle child when she was young (she was six) because he thought she was trying to get in his food when all she was doing was getting a toy that was a couple feet away from his food/water bowl. We had to quarantine the dog and had animal control out to the house to check him out and then after all that rehomed him to a older, single lady that knew the story that had pugs all her life.

He wasn't eating the food at the time so it was just out of the blue. Little guy caused six stitches. He was 2 and had never had any outward aggression toward anyone.

I only tell this story becaue you never know when a dog will attack.

if it were a pit, she’d be dead.
 
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I've got a crazy cat story to, which is why i have forbidden my family from having cats EVER.
People can talk about dogs for intruder protection but I will tell you if you have a decent size cat with full claws and you throw it at an intruders head, claws first You will win every time.
 
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People can talk about dogs for intruder protection but I will tell you if you have a decent size cat with full claws and you throw it at an intruders head, claws first You will win every time.

So, when we lived in Fort Wayne, my now wife started feeding this stray cat that turned out to be pregnant. She was the nicest thing, but I asked her to stop because I didn't want the cat to have the babies around our house because I didn't want our kids to get connected to them (we had two dogs at the time and didn't have any room nor time for more animals). She didn't listen. One day I go out to my car and leave for work, pull out and look forward after I back up and three cat had her litter under my car. I instantly called my wife and told her that she had the kittens and that they were in the drive and that she needed to take care of them before I got home that night. A couple hours later, she shows up with a box and in the box is a blanket with one kitten in it. She tells me she called animal control and they came out and when they did, mama cat took the kitten she had and hid it (she knew the hiding spot). While mama cat was gone, my wife asked what they would do with the litter and mama cat and they said they don't have room for them so they would be put down. Animal control gets the rest of the litter and mama cat, but my wife, knowing that she just basically killed all these cats, couldn't give up this one baby kitten so she waited until they left and went and got it and brought it to me and was like what do we do? We ended up bottle feeding that little guy for MONTHS, waking up in the middle of the night to make sure he would eat. That wasn't the problem though. Because he didn't have mama cat or other cats to tame him around to teach him to be nice, he would walk up to you, start purring and all of a sudden turn into demon cat and scratch the shit out of you. It was the damndest thing. He would love on you and then just turn on a dime. He lasted about eight months with us until we could find someone to take him.

I'll never have another cat as long as I live.
 
So, when we lived in Fort Wayne, my now wife started feeding this stray cat that turned out to be pregnant. She was the nicest thing, but I asked her to stop because I didn't want the cat to have the babies around our house because I didn't want our kids to get connected to them (we had two dogs at the time and didn't have any room nor time for more animals). She didn't listen. One day I go out to my car and leave for work, pull out and look forward after I back up and three cat had her litter under my car. I instantly called my wife and told her that she had the kittens and that they were in the drive and that she needed to take care of them before I got home that night. A couple hours later, she shows up with a box and in the box is a blanket with one kitten in it. She tells me she called animal control and they came out and when they did, mama cat took the kitten she had and hid it (she knew the hiding spot). While mama cat was gone, my wife asked what they would do with the litter and mama cat and they said they don't have room for them so they would be put down. Animal control gets the rest of the litter and mama cat, but my wife, knowing that she just basically killed all these cats, couldn't give up this one baby kitten so she waited until they left and went and got it and brought it to me and was like what do we do? We ended up bottle feeding that little guy for MONTHS, waking up in the middle of the night to make sure he would eat. That wasn't the problem though. Because he didn't have mama cat or other cats to tame him around to teach him to be nice, he would walk up to you, start purring and all of a sudden turn into demon cat and scratch the shit out of you. It was the damndest thing. He would love on you and then just turn on a dime. He lasted about eight months with us until we could find someone to take him.

I'll never have another cat as long as I live.
Inside I have had Maine Coon mutts and they are so laid back. Current one is going on 18 and you would never know.

I have always fed strays and kept them as barn cats outside, I had on that a friend that was staying with me in a spare room for a bit had stopped and picked up as a kitten laying on the rd. He was small black cat with a huge head . The cat got left with me and he was a pitbull of cats and just meaner than hell ........except to me. I had him for yrs. In the winter he knew I would be lighting up the stove in my workshop and was like a heat seeking missle. When he was ready to go out he was ready but one day out in my shop he was asleep and I was running a board through my planer. I didnt have a dust collector hooked up yet so was just letting chips fly. This is a 24'' machine with a 10 hp motor on it so it makes noise. He finally woke up after I covered him shook the chips off and gave me a dirty look. He finally had a run in with a coon that took out part of a back leg and I decided best thing was to put him out of pain but It wasnt easy to do. I wouldnt have wanted him in my house, I did bring him in a few times and he had a house on my porch but he was the toughest little guy. I had left my truck window down and he had gotten in and asleep behind my seat. About 1/4 down the road he wok up and wasnt happy I turned around and got him home but he was bouncing off the windows. He was around 7-8 yrs with a vacation for almost a yr in the middle and surprised he returned.
 
Inside I have had Maine Coon mutts and they are so laid back. Current one is going on 18 and you would never know.

I have always fed strays and kept them as barn cats outside, I had on that a friend that was staying with me in a spare room for a bit had stopped and picked up as a kitten laying on the rd. He was small black cat with a huge head . The cat got left with me and he was a pitbull of cats and just meaner than hell ........except to me. I had him for yrs. In the winter he knew I would be lighting up the stove in my workshop and was like a heat seeking missle. When he was ready to go out he was ready but one day out in my shop he was asleep and I was running a board through my planer. I didnt have a dust collector hooked up yet so was just letting chips fly. This is a 24'' machine with a 10 hp motor on it so it makes noise. He finally woke up after I covered him shook the chips off and gave me a dirty look. He finally had a run in with a coon that took out part of a back leg and I decided best thing was to put him out of pain but It wasnt easy to do. I wouldnt have wanted him in my house, I did bring him in a few times and he had a house on my porch but he was the toughest little guy. I had left my truck window down and he had gotten in and asleep behind my seat. About 1/4 down the road he wok up and wasnt happy I turned around and got him home but he was bouncing off the windows. He was around 7-8 yrs with a vacation for almost a yr in the middle and surprised he returned.

How big do main coons get?

When me and my wife got together, her parents had two cats that were the size of two smaller medium sized dogs. These two were literally 20-25 pounds and I for the life of me have no idea what kind of cats they were.
 
How big do main coons get?

When me and my wife got together, her parents had two cats that were the size of two smaller medium sized dogs. These two were literally 20-25 pounds and I for the life of me have no idea what kind of cats they were.
Likely coons, mine is a mixed mutt but at around 7-8 he was a good 18 lbs . I never changed his diet he is about 8-9 lbs now almost like he knew to take care of himself? Doesnt jump like he used to but if I didnt tell someone at 18 seems like a 8 year old cat .
 
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