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Can Sean Miller Survive College BB Corruption Trial

In an administrative hearing, like an NCAA investigation, the rules of evidence are less restrictive when compared to a criminal trial.
Plus, I believe the NCAA's rules create an affirmative obligation to cooperate on the part of the school, coach, player, administrator, whatever (i.e. they gotta testify in full even if it is against themselves).
 
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What? Sampson’s infractions were about as minor as you can get.
I agree the phone call violations "were about as minor as you can get", but there is nothing acceptable about the skipping-class and drug-related stories we heard during Sampson's term.
 
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You self report the tiny stuff so you can be "honestly" shocked and appalled when the big stuff comes out. "We self report everything we are aware of , check your records and you will see"
Self reporting is too naive to be successful.
 
He was fired
But Restaurant Bench Rick Pitino insists he did nothing wrong.
Extra-marital affair in public with a waitress in a restaurant, paying for her abortion and then lying about it, Prostitutes for players and recruits, got caught paying $150K for players.
Slick Rick Pitino had it all going on. What a sleazeball.
 
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Thing is, they don't have Miller or Ayton saying anything. They just have Dawkins and Richardson running their mouths about him...like idiots.

It will be interesting to see if Richardson, Alkins, Trier, or Ayton cooperate with an NCAA investigation. Seems unlikely.

Will Wade's thing is worse and LSU just reinstated him. That's wild. Maybe the NCAA is about to be abolished, I dunno. That one makes no sense.
The NCAA didn't have Andre McGee talking publicly in order to protect Pitino
who was aware. McGee was made to look like a lone rogue.

The NCAA are trying to prove that Dawkins and Book Richardson are the
main culprits and are making them talk because they may get jail time.
The coaches and AD's (main offenders) are protected as much as possible
which is a real shame.
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The NCAA didn't have Andre McGee talking publicly in order to protect Pitino
who was aware. McGee was made to look like a lone rogue.

The NCAA are trying to prove that Dawkins and Book Richardson are the
main culprits and are making them talk because they may get jail time.
The coaches and AD's (main offenders) are protected as much as possible
which is a real shame.
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The NCAA has no ability to leverage possible jail time into cooperation in a NCAA investigation. The only threat they have to hang over the coaches' heads are show-cause orders and lifetime bans from participation. What you're typing has no basis in reality.
 
Sean Miller and Tom Izzo are obviously untouchable for some reason and neither are going anywhere anytime soon.
 
But Restaurant Bench Rick Pitino insists he did nothing wrong.
Extra-marital affair in public with a waitress in a restaurant, paying for her abortion and then lying about it, Prostitutes for players and recruits, got caught paying $150K for players.
Slick Rick Pitino had it all going on. What a sleazeball.
throw in the white suits and dyed, jet black hair, and you get the complete picture
 
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The NCAA didn't have Andre McGee talking publicly in order to protect Pitino
who was aware. McGee was made to look like a lone rogue.

The NCAA are trying to prove that Dawkins and Book Richardson are the
main culprits and are making them talk because they may get jail time.
The coaches and AD's (main offenders) are protected as much as possible
which is a real shame.
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the ncaa has nothing to do with this investigation. this is the fbi's baby, doing the ncaa's job for them
 
Sampson did hardly anything compared to what's going on now. Ridiculous
And our punishment wasn't very heavy. We gave up a scholarship and had some restrictions on recruiting for a year. We didn't even get a tournament ban. Did self reporting help us? Maybe, maybe not. The NCAA didn't give us any other penalty that what we already offered up so it certainly didn't hurt us.
 
Sean Miller and Tom Izzo are obviously untouchable for some reason and neither are going anywhere anytime soon.
I think it's more like the reputations of MSU and Arizona. These programs
don't want to start from scratch with new coaches and athletic directors it
takes to long.
 
I hope he doesn't survive. There may not be specific proof for a trial setting, but I believe he's as guilty as they come. That's an opinion based on the facts made public.
 
You think the NCAA is somehow working behind the scenes with the federal prosecutors? On a forum full of idiots, you and coach win.
Not a chance. This isn't phone calls its only paying players. The NCAA could care less.
 
So what they launched an investigation into North Carolina and did nothing. You make it sound like serious penalties are coming just cause they launched an investigations. It's all for show imo.
I make it sound like that? I just posted a link.

You said the NCAA "could(n't) care less". I showed that was wrong since they are actually investigating. I gave no predictions on how that investigation would return out.
 
So what they launched an investigation into North Carolina and did nothing. You make it sound like serious penalties are coming just cause they launched an investigations. It's all for show imo.
So what NCAA bylaw did North Carolina violate?

What they did and what they would have LIKED to do are two totally separate things. If you want to blame anyone, blame the accrediting agency that should have shut North Carolina down.

https://amp.newsobserver.com/opinion/editorials/article186179403.html
 
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As they should. They should fight to defend themselves and fight for the benefit of their school.
I just think it's funny that anyone thinks the gutless NCAA will bring the hammer down on Arizona. They will have to vacate some wins and reduce scholarships for a few years. The penalties are a joke
 
I just think it's funny that anyone thinks the gutless NCAA will bring the hammer down on Arizona. They will have to vacate some wins and reduce scholarships for a few years. The penalties are a joke
You think Arizona should be punished before an investigation has occurred? And you think UNC should’ve been punished even though they didn’t violate NCAA rules? The only joke here is your tortured logic.
 
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You think Arizona should be punished before an investigation has occurred? And you think UNC should’ve been punished even though they didn’t violate NCAA rules? The only joke here is your tortured logic.
Lol Miller is going nowhere. Slap on the wrist at best. Bank it. Investigation will be a shame.
 
You think Arizona should be punished before an investigation has occurred? And you think UNC should’ve been punished even though they didn’t violate NCAA rules? The only joke here is your tortured logic.


UNC had classes you didn't have to go to, do any work for or take any tests for. You just signed up for it and you passed. SINCE the classes were offered to non athletes the school was not in violation.

So UNC basketball is fine.

UNC degree is utterly worthless. You have to do work for the University of Phoenix degree at least.

UNC Scandal
An unusual B-plus grade on a football player's transcript has unearthed an academic fraud scandal involving athletics at UNC-Chapel Hill. That grade ultimately pointed to nearly 190 lecture-style classes that never met from 1999 to 2011, as well as hundreds of bogus independent studies that had no instructor and date back to 1993.

All of this happened within the Department of African and Afro-American Studies and was largely the work of the department manager, Deborah Crowder, and to a lesser extent, department chairman Julius Nyang'oro.

A new report by a former top U.S. Justice Department official found that keeping athletes eligible was at the heart of the scheme. Nearly half the students enrolled were athletes, with some football and basketball players relying heavily on these "GPA booster" classes. Even a professor who later became UNC's faculty leader steered athletes to the classes.


Read more here: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/unc-scandal/article72207687.html#storylink=cpy
 
I think it's more like the reputations of MSU and Arizona. These programs
don't want to start from scratch with new coaches and athletic directors it
takes to long.
Too bad. Fire both coaches and take away schollies. Burn the programs to the ground and have them suffer at the bottom.
 
UNC had classes you didn't have to go to, do any work for or take any tests for. You just signed up for it and you passed. SINCE the classes were offered to non athletes the school was not in violation.

So UNC basketball is fine.

UNC degree is utterly worthless. You have to do work for the University of Phoenix degree at least.

UNC Scandal
An unusual B-plus grade on a football player's transcript has unearthed an academic fraud scandal involving athletics at UNC-Chapel Hill. That grade ultimately pointed to nearly 190 lecture-style classes that never met from 1999 to 2011, as well as hundreds of bogus independent studies that had no instructor and date back to 1993.

All of this happened within the Department of African and Afro-American Studies and was largely the work of the department manager, Deborah Crowder, and to a lesser extent, department chairman Julius Nyang'oro.

A new report by a former top U.S. Justice Department official found that keeping athletes eligible was at the heart of the scheme. Nearly half the students enrolled were athletes, with some football and basketball players relying heavily on these "GPA booster" classes. Even a professor who later became UNC's faculty leader steered athletes to the classes.


Read more here: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/unc-scandal/article72207687.html#storylink=cpy
Hate to break it to you, but nearly every NCAA school has steered athletes to courses and majors in order to maintain eligibility. It’s been going on for decades, including at schools like Purdue and Indiana. Ask any Purdue fan about the curriculum set up for Glen Robinson and Cuonzo Martin or the go to majors for athletes. And for IU fans, the General Studies major has long been a haven for athletes, as have been certain courses known to demand little of the “student”. Jim Harbaugh complained about this practice at Michigan, though one wonders how seriously he considers it an issue when his player, Rashan Gary, scores a 9 on the Wonderlic exam administered to NFL Combine attendees.

But, before anyone can take those classes and pursue those majors, they must be admitted to school. Many athletes only make it in based on a special exceptions standard, something that nearly every school in the BiG and Power 5 school does. The recent pay for admission scandal makes clear that even highly prestigious universities are willing to set aside admissions slots based on athletic abilities. So, before anyone addresses bogus classes and majors, there’s the issue of bogus admissions.

So, at what point does the NCAA intervene? A class? A major? An admission? And if they begin to make qualitative decisions regarding academic programs, who is the arbiter of those standards? In the end, the NCAA understandably said “no, thanks”, and fans should be glad they did.
 
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Hate to break it to you, but nearly every NCAA school has steered athletes to courses and majors in order to maintain eligibility. It’s been going on for decades, including at schools like Purdue and Indiana. Ask any Purdue fan about the curriculum set up for Glen Robinson and Cuonzo Martin or the go to majors for athletes. And for IU fans, the General Studies major has long been a haven for athletes, as have been certain courses known to demand little of the “student”. Jim Harbaugh complained about this practice at Michigan, though one wonders how seriously he considers it an issue when his player, Rashan Gary, scores a 9 on the Wonderlic exam administered to NFL Combine attendees.

But, before anyone can take those classes and pursue those majors, they must be admitted to school, many athletes only make it in based on a special exceptions standard, something that nearly every school in the BiG and Power 5 school does. The recent pay for admission scandal makes clear that even highly prestigious universities are willing to set aside admissions slots based on athletic abilities. So, before anyone addresses bogus classes and majors, there’s the issue of bogus admissions.

So, at what point does the NCAA intervene? A class? A major? An admission? And if they begin to make qualitative decisions regarding academic programs, who is the arbiter of those standards? In the end, the NCAA understandably said “no, thanks”, and fans should be glad they did.
Degree in 3.

Your post is spot on, BTW. Well done. The last thing the member schools of the NCAA want anyone to look at is the admission “standards” the schools allow (and have allowed for literally a hundred years) for “student-athletes.”
 
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