Caleb Swannigan passed away
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He opted out of the bubble and never made it back.
Really not sure you were in the wrong. Seemed out of left field. I think the swanigan news hit some harder than others. Hopefully that's all it is.
I Did not have my post deleted. I have no need to “save face”. I Did not state anything in my post that was even 1/10th of what venom has been directed my way on this thread. Silly broilees....
Just stop it John. You seem to be trying to make this thread all about you. There was only one poster here, who went down a bad path, and these guys jumped him. You don’t need to pick a fight with anyone else here. Try not to be the ass you are on our boards In this thread about Biggie‘s death.
It's also entirely possible that he simply couldn't get timely appointments during the height of COVID before his problems were out of control. I know first hand and have permanent nerve damage now because it took me almost a year to get a needed surgery during that time
I'd say there are risks inherent to carrying around 8.4 lbs of weed and a big wad of cash that are not related to "personal use of weed". I'd also guess that folks who carry around that much weed and cash have a significantly shorter life expectancy, regardless of cause of death, aned probably more akin to the drugs you mentioned, and not "normal users of mj". It may not have been related to his death, or it may have just been another factor due to life style choices, but I'm not sure it's irrelevant.
You completely missed the point. According to the coroner,he died of natural causes. Are you people really this classless? Why bring up something like this(that obviously was not the reason for his death) on his day of passing? It's really a bad look,and of bitterly poor taste. I'm sure your family would love to read about any of your possible transgressions that were irrelevant to your death on your day of passing,wouldn't they?
..that would make your mom and/or kids feel great right?
Lifestyle choices, morbid obesity, diabetes, failure of support systems, and ignoring medical/health advice are all "natural causes". That is what is being pointed out. You may have missed the point
No you're completely missing the point. Not a single person on here has attributed marijuana to his actual death. But I guarantee you the average IU person on here doesn't realize the path Biggie has been down and the demons he's faced the last two years. He was a first round pick less than 5 years ago and last played in an NBA game less than 2 years ago. He was arrested a year and a half ago with 8 pounds of marijuana and was nearly double his playing weight less than 9 months removed from playing in his last NBA game. That isn't normal for a professional athlete not even in the prime of his career. Should have been a major red flag the path he was heading down and the lifestyle he was living. Don't disagree that it was likely an insensitive comment given the timing but doesn't make anything the OP said untrue. There were warning signs all over the place for a life spiraling out of control that ultimately ended in tragedy.
Not sure where you are coming up with the lack of support system. The support system around him is what got him to the NBA.
I think that's his point. He lost that support system once he got to the NBA. I don't think it's fair to assume guys like Painter, Barnes, former teammates, etc completely abandoned him once he moved on from Purdue but I do think it's a legitimate question ponder somewhere down the road consider how fast things went down hill. Probably not the right time for that now though however.
I think we should all offer our condolences to the Purdue family and move on from this thread. Nothing good is going to come from this from here on out.
So, when they got paid the agent commission or he no longer played for their team, did they stay on as his support system? I don't know that answer.
Ya. I highly doubt everyone said bye. Does it become more difficult when a guy is completely across the country? Yes. But I'm sure they were still there. Painter doesn't seem like the kind of guy to say bye. On top of that, tons of former teammates have come out posting about swanigan, so seems like a good relationship. PJ Thompson eluded to talking to him recently. It just seems like a very poor assumption with almost nothing to backup the statement.
Glad you admit to spewing non-sense to take shots at people. Have a good day.
What a shame. It makes me tho k he had.severe depression. I k now people who have.either type 1 or 2 and.deal with it.
I seem to remember when he got arrested that it was said that he and Barnes didn't really have a relationship anymore. Not saying that's Barnes' fault at all. You can only try so long until there is no point anymore.
Right I don't think everyone shut him out either and why I said it's not fair to assume. But he was living in Fort Wayne at the time of his death (not all the way across the country) and there were documented issues of legal troubles and irregular weight gain while living back at home. But at the end of the day, some people who need help in the worst way don't always accept that help and why this makes for a sad and unfortunate tragedy.
I didn't bring it up, I was just saying I could see lifestyle being a contributing factor, as it's not "natural" for a 25 yo old to die at that age. It's a former player of our rival school on an IU message board; not FB or instagram (ie. I seriously doubt his relatives are seeing this). I wouldn't post about something like this on a more "public" forum, but I think it's a reasonable discussion here. If you don't want to have it, well, you don't have to, right? I thought Jimmy's post was classless, if you think discussing any aspect of factors that may have contributed to his death is classless, then don't get involved in the discussion.
Ya. Thats what I had heard. I'd also heard Barnes had tried to move to Portland after Caleb was drafted. Couldn't tell ya if either are true though. I want to make that clear.
This is pathetic speculation from someone who has absolutely no idea what was going on in his life. Please give it a rest and have some respect.
You guys keep replying to the posts, without stating anything but venom. What did I state that is not true?
So all roads and planes were closed or not flying? Plus, You heard Barnes no longer had a relationship with CS. ok, got it.
you may want to do the same. Shouting down facts/truth is the way of the world now. 35 venomous posts directed to me, and nothing that I wrote is false.
From the lead writer on GBI:
"Since Swanigan's NBA career ended quickly and decisively, he'd become estranged from those who'd helped him along. He fell back into old habits, losing control of his weight, putting him in the dire health straits that ultimately took him. Drugs had become part of his life. Who knows what sort of counterproductive influences replaced those from his time in the spotlight." quote from Brian Neubert article on GBI
If no other poster attacks me, then this is my last reply.
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You really are a piece of sh!t. Venom my a$$. Gtfoh. Your last reply shouldn’t have even been your first.
It can be very difficult to do what the doctor wants.
Stop smoking, lose weight, exercise, etc.
Sorry for how that happened foryou. Unfortunately something we do not see in the media much is the number of people who suffered from the early lockdowns.
How many did not get a cancer check prescreen they needed? That new lump evaluated, or the chest pain looked at?
My neighbor died at 60, collapsed in his yard. The ambulance came and worked on him on the ground. Did not even try to get to a hospital. Emt told the wife their orders were not to put him in the ambulance or bring to the hospital unless he began to wake up with their work.
Probably would have passed away anyway but would have been nice to have let an emergency room team try.
Bro there's a time and a place, but there's never a time and a place to be this much of a dickhead.
Rest in piece to Caleb Swanigan, he was one hell of a basketball player.
Keep your toxicity on gold and black. No need to come on to a rivals board cursing like the rude, toxic poster that you are.
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From the lead writer on GBI:
"Since Swanigan's NBA career ended quickly and decisively, he'd become estranged from those who'd helped him along. He fell back into old habits, losing control of his weight, putting him in the dire health straits that ultimately took him. Drugs had become part of his life. Who knows what sort of counterproductive influences replaced those from his time in the spotlight." quote from Brian Neubert article on GBI
This is a mental health story, the phone call that so many people who knew Swanigan and loved Swanigan dreaded. The rest of that quote.
Your quote doesn't prove you correct. Could just as easily had been swanigan pushing those who wanted to help away. He was obviously cared about, otherwise no one would have dreaded the phone call (another line from that article). And there wouldn't have been the outpour from his former teammates.
You keep making the claim that everyone kicked him to the curb, the ask us to prove you wrong. You have no proof you are right and you've been extremely disrespectful in the process because you would rather push literally the stupidest agenda possible given the circumstances. You are being completely insensitive to the situation and rude to those who asked you to stop and told you time and place. People on here that I banter with all the time, agree with me here.
Not everything in life needs to have an agenda. Sometimes there is no agenda to push. This is one of those moments. This is instead a time to respect and remember the achievements Swanigan accomplished against all odds and the impact he had on those around him. A man just died and you are more concerned with how Purdue and Painter aledgely failed him. To be honest, idc who did or didn't reach out. There is a time and place and that isn't while paying respects to a tragic end.
From the lead writer on GBI:
"Since Swanigan's NBA career ended quickly and decisively, he'd become estranged from those who'd helped him along. He fell back into old habits, losing control of his weight, putting him in the dire health straits that ultimately took him. Drugs had become part of his life. Who knows what sort of counterproductive influences replaced those from his time in the spotlight." quote from Brian Neubert article on GBI
Jimmy, you simply don't get it. Estrangement is a two-way street. As has been pointed out, others could well have reached out to him pleading for a change in Swanigan's life and using moral suasion but the other person has to be receptive to the entreaties. If he rejected them, what are they supposed to do? You cannot force an adult to take heed of your advice - as much as you would hope that is the case.
Is it possible that everyone who had previously been close to him and supported him suddenly cut him off? Possible, but is it likely? Barnes cared for him when he was a nobody and Barnes did not have to do so. He was under no obligation. He supported Swanigan long before anyone thought that Caleb was going to develop the way that he did. So then when Caleb gets famous and well-paid, Barnes rejects him? And his former teammates who posted and evidently spoke with him rather recently cut him off as well? All of this sounds unlikely.
Even if Swanigan was cut from the NBA, he certainly had opportunity abroad which pays rather well. He did not pursue that at all. A more probable scenario is severe depression combined with drug abuse and a loss of motivation. Physical disease accelerates the psychological decline. Combine that with a likely genetic disposition towards disease and you get the witnessed outcome.
This is a tragedy, the full cause of it presently unknown despite your aspersions. You want to cast mud on others without having any facts.
Is it possible that everyone who had previously been close to him and supported him suddenly cut him off? Possible, but is it likely? Barnes cared for him when he was a nobody and Barnes did not have to do so. He was under no obligation. He supported Swanigan long before anyone thought that Caleb was going to develop the way that he did. So then when Caleb gets famous and well-paid, Barnes rejects him? And his former teammates who posted and evidently spoke with him rather recently cut him off as well? All of this sounds unlikely.
Even if Swanigan was cut from the NBA, he certainly had opportunity abroad which pays rather well. He did not pursue that at all. A more probable scenario is severe depression combined with drug abuse and a loss of motivation. Physical disease accelerates the psychological decline. Combine that with a likely genetic disposition towards disease and you get the witnessed outcome.
This is a tragedy, the full cause of it presently unknown despite your aspersions. You want to cast mud on others without having any facts.
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