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Brunk visited by IU coaches today

He could choose to test the NBA for the feedback. I wouldn't blame him and it would be a good experience.

Good one!

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If Eastern could do it last year, Green could do it this year.
 
Unfortunately the problem isn't his physical skillset, but more his mental. I think CTC often overlooked "fire, motor, moxy, etc..." in favor of athleticism or offensive skillset. He just didn't value aggressive, physical players with more limited offensive skills, as other coaches do. The only guy like that I can think of he ever got was Freddie McSwain, and then we had a 6'6" guy playing in the post. It's almost like he preferred "nice" guys... Cody, Vic, Juwan, Justin, OG... It's really hard to think of guys we've had in the last 10 years that you'd describe as fiery, fierce, aggressive... anyone come to mind?
Tom Coverdale
 
Did your source know that Forrester was going to transfer?
He had heard both Damezi and Jake. He thinks the staff would like to keep Anderson because he can shoot and his length. Just got to get his mind right. I heard from one guy Anderson was a pain in the ass to coach on the Indiana All-Stars.
 
He had heard both Damezi and Jake. He thinks the staff would like to keep Anderson because he can shoot and his length. Just got to get his mind right. I heard from one guy Anderson was a pain in the ass to coach on the Indiana All-Stars.
damezi can shoot? news to me
 
can't think of many nasty players on the team in recent yrs. I have seen something I never thought I would see...guys on the bench, laughing and cutting it up, late in the game during an eventual home loss. Something I never thought I would see. Many yrs ago, no one on the team would dare even smile if we were in the process of losing a home game. Practice the next few days would have been living hell. Sucks when you realize that much of the long time fan base seems to care more about the Ws and Ls than some guys on the team. Culture thing and it's CAM's job to fix during the off season. Needs to change fast.

I think it's more of the AAU mindset rubbing off. These guys go to tournaments and play so many games, it's no big deal to lose some, and it just doesn't matter to them all too often. It's surpising because one of the biggest proponents for AAU seem to be college coaches, because they can "see so many recruits at once", but then look at all the bad habits it instills in those recruits.
 
I think it's more of the AAU mindset rubbing off. These guys go to tournaments and play so many games, it's no big deal to lose some, and it just doesn't matter to them all too often. It's surpising because one of the biggest proponents for AAU seem to be college coaches, because they can "see so many recruits at once", but then look at all the bad habits it instills in those recruits.

Lot of truth to this.

AAU doesn't have to be a dirty word. If a player gets with the right program, it can help their visibility AND their game. I've seen lots of kids develop the right way thru AAU. But, without question, it can sure instill a lot of bad habits.
 
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I think it's more of the AAU mindset rubbing off. These guys go to tournaments and play so many games, it's no big deal to lose some, and it just doesn't matter to them all too often. It's surpising because one of the biggest proponents for AAU seem to be college coaches, because they can "see so many recruits at once", but then look at all the bad habits it instills in those recruits.
could not agree more. I guess the key is to go after kids who, along with their game, just cannot stand losing.

Or is that just a pipe dream coming from an old fan who still believes kids should think like we did 30 yrs ago? I'm not handling getting old very well.
 
could not agree more. I guess the key is to go after kids who, along with their game, just cannot stand losing.

Or is that just a pipe dream coming from an old fan who still believes kids should think like we did 30 yrs ago? I'm not handling getting old very well.
I'm only 27 years old, but I can't stand the nonchalant, lackadaisical attitudes I've seen in a good number of these kids coming out of the high school/AAU ranks. I don't care if you're a surefire lottery pick or a walk-on -- you sure as hell better have ZERO tolerance for losing.
 
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I'm only 27 years old, but I can't stand the nonchalant, lackadaisical attitudes I've seen in a good number of these kids coming out of the high school/AAU ranks. I don't care if you're a surefire lottery pick or a walk-on -- you sure as hell better have ZERO tolerance for losing.
that's why I grew to love Coverdale as a player. Least athletic kid on the court, but you knew that no one was gonna be more pissed off about losing the game that Tom. And that drove him to play harder than most. That edge seems to be missing with most players today. Mabye that's the 'nasty' that KKnot was referencing...I still play pick up club rec ball on Saturdays against a variety of aged people including kids half my age. Always have found it helpful to step on the court to play, just a little bit pissed off. (have to do something to compensate for the 20" of vertical I've lost over the yrs)
 
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I think it's more of the AAU mindset rubbing off. These guys go to tournaments and play so many games, it's no big deal to lose some, and it just doesn't matter to them all too often. It's surpising because one of the biggest proponents for AAU seem to be college coaches, because they can "see so many recruits at once", but then look at all the bad habits it instills in those recruits.
Exactly. AAU has too many games. Impressing potential college coaches is what is important in AAU. Winning and losing becomes numb to the players. It is just another game. You go to AAU games to watch a player or two, not to watch the "team". You tweet the outstanding moves or individual plays made by a player or an individual's game stats. Not the team stats. AAU is about showcasing the individual player. HS and College are about the team, not the individual.
 
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could not agree more. I guess the key is to go after kids who, along with their game, just cannot stand losing.

Or is that just a pipe dream coming from an old fan who still believes kids should think like we did 30 yrs ago? I'm not handling getting old very well.
Carsen Edwards sure seems like one of those kids that hates losing. His coach and the refs stole his last game from him.
 
Carsen Edwards sure seems like one of those kids that hates losing. His coach and the refs stole his last game from him.
No they didn't steal a game from them.
Missed FT, and a bad pass did help lose the game. Edwards was driven and played hard, but ultimately missed a FT and threw a bad pass to seal the loss.
 
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No they didn't steal a game from them.
Missed FT, and a bad pass did help lose the game. Edwards was driven and played hard.

Harrms not being a good rebounder, and Eifert in the game to rebound while Tre sitting on bench watching...you get that rebound, you win. The refs weren't making personnel choices, or blocking out. Your coach and players were.

first post troll.
 
Lot of truth to this.

AAU doesn't have to be a dirty word. If a player gets with the right program, it can help their visibility AND their game. I've seen lots of kids develop the right way thru AAU. But, without question, it can sure instill a lot of ad habits.
AAU helps their visibility.
That in a nutshell is what AAU was designed for.
 
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No they didn't steal a game from them.
Missed FT, and a bad pass did help lose the game. Edwards was driven and played hard.

Also if you want talk refs, Cline got away with a pretty obvious push off to get a game tying 3 with 30 seconds left in regulation of the Tenn game. Also would have been his 5th foul. Then the refs took an unnecessary video review which effectively gave Purdue a timeout they didn’t have, which set up the play Edwards got fouled on
 
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AAU helps their visibility.
That in a nutshell is what AAU was designed for.

Not originally, but it has become that

Back in the day AAU programs focused more on player development - and many still do. 35-40 years ago, colleges mainly scouted/evaluated HS kids during their HS seasons.

When Michael Jordan made it big in the mid-80's with the Bulls is when the transition took place - because that's when the shoe companies became involved. To try to find the next MJ, there was literally millions of dollars invested into AAU basketball. And as with most things, money is the root of all evil.

Even with all the warts, AAU has done a lot of good for a lot of kids.Some people with financial concerns place too much emphasis on winning and not enough on player development. By and large, most programs do a really good job of helping the kids maximize their potential.
 
Not originally, but it has become that

Back in the day AAU programs focused more on player development - and many still do. 35-40 years ago, colleges mainly scouted/evaluated HS kids during their HS seasons.

When Michael Jordan made it big in the mid-80's with the Bulls is when the transition took place - because that's when the shoe companies became involved. To try to find the next MJ, there was literally millions of dollars invested into AAU basketball. And as with most things, money is the root of all evil.

Even with all the warts, AAU has done a lot of good for a lot of kids.Some people with financial concerns place too much emphasis on winning and not enough on player development. By and large, most programs do a really good job of helping the kids maximize their potential.
But the game is simplified for a short AAU/All-Star season. Multiple Team defenses and more detailed offenses are not regularly used. I like watching the Wisconsin Swing as they run a lot of pick and rolls and run more motion in the half court offense than the typical weave and dribble drive offense. I watch a player in AAU and then watch him in a HS game, and it's a completely different game. HS is much closer to resembling a college game.
 
that's why I grew to love Coverdale as a player. Least athletic kid on the court, but you knew that no one was gonna be more pissed off about losing the game that Tom. And that drove him to play harder than most. That edge seems to be missing with most players today. Mabye that's the 'nasty' that KKnot was referencing...I still play pick up club rec ball on Saturdays against a variety of aged people including kids half my age. Always have found it helpful to step on the court to play, just a little bit pissed off. (have to do something to compensate for the 20" of vertical I've lost over the yrs)
Lord knows my vertical isn't anywhere close to what it was when I was 18! But your point about Coverdale certainly resonates with me. I look at a guy like Brad Davison from Wisconsin. He's often one of the least athletic guys on the floor during conference play, but he consistently makes those hustle plays that don't show up on the stat sheet. I've also seen his body language and facial expressions in a number of games -- that kid certainly cares about winning. This isn't to say I think we need to become Wisconsin by any means. I just wish we saw a bit more fire out of the kids we currently have.
 
Lord knows my vertical isn't anywhere close to what it was when I was 18! But your point about Coverdale certainly resonates with me. I look at a guy like Brad Davison from Wisconsin. He's often one of the least athletic guys on the floor during conference play, but he consistently makes those hustle plays that don't show up on the stat sheet. I've also seen his body language and facial expressions in a number of games -- that kid certainly cares about winning. This isn't to say I think we need to become Wisconsin by any means. I just wish we saw a bit more fire out of the kids we currently have.
look what that Bohannon kid (Iowa) did to us....he single handedly kept IU out of the big tourney (more or less). We need some players that other teams find truly 'annoying' to deal with. And I hope every returning player is shooting 250 free throws every day this summer.
 
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